"I need a New PC!" 2011 Thread of reading the OP. Seriously. [Part 2]
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SnakeSlashRO
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LordCanti, Soka, black_Vegeta
Thanks for the input! I had no idea all you needed was around 8 Ram... I was about to go hog wild for nothing. This machine I was building was going to be my weaker machine and was going to be for the house hold. I was going to build an even more powerful one with 32GB of ram and two 580 with SLI...
Im glad you guys saved me some money LOL
Thanks for the input! I had no idea all you needed was around 8 Ram... I was about to go hog wild for nothing. This machine I was building was going to be my weaker machine and was going to be for the house hold. I was going to build an even more powerful one with 32GB of ram and two 580 with SLI...
Im glad you guys saved me some money LOL
CarbonatedFalcon
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TheExodu5 said:
How large is that TV? I sit with my head between 1' and 2' away from a 23" monitor and that's just right for me. Being further away unless the screen is significantly larger is hard for me to do now - certain desks don't work for me.
And yes, keyboard trays are awful. Mouse needs to be adjacent to the keyboard, and having both on a tray usually crowds out the mouse or is just too low to be comfortable.
childplease
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Just snagged a SSD for 50 dorra off amazon.
Build is nearly complete, just need a Video Card.
Build is nearly complete, just need a Video Card.
SalsaShark said:
Remove the power supply from the case and plug it into the wall, then turn it on. (Short the power on pin with a paper clip.)
If it makes the noise, try another power supply. If still noisy, try another cable. If still noisy, try another surge protector. If still noisy, try another outlet (on a different circuit). If still noisy, call an electrician. If any of the subsequent steps result in no noise, you've found your culprit.
If it doesn't make a noise outside of the case, put it in the (empty) case and try again.
Then add just the motherboard.
Then motherboard + CPU + RAM.
Then full system.
Ludovician
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Ludovician said:
Requote.
Also, I see in OP that 500W PSU is sufficient for a single GPU - is it safe to assume this will be safe for most future GPUs, seen how power consumption is going down? Also, how can I judge the quality of PSUs? Is an "80 plus cert" indication that the PSU will be good overall?
Turns out my motherboard has the Sandy Bridge issue with the SATA ports, but I honestly can't be bothered taking the machine apart and sending it back. Think I can live with 4 working ports anyway.
Amazon have impressed me with their customer service, one of the buttons on my mouse is dying and I sent an email an hour ago and they've replied and are sending a new one out already, and it's like Midnight here.
Amazon have impressed me with their customer service, one of the buttons on my mouse is dying and I sent an email an hour ago and they've replied and are sending a new one out already, and it's like Midnight here.
You really can't go wrong. The high end this stuff nowadays is mostly for a few ridiculous titles, or for 3DVision/Eyefinity. All the cards you listed are great, and it just depends on what you want out of your system.Ludovician said:
Kepler won't be out till Q1/Q2 2012 though.
ASUS Sabertooth or Maximus IV Gene/Extreme.Jtrizzy said:
So I made a purchase today mainly for BF3..
How does this look to run BF3 and maybe Skyrim and any other new games at 160%
Motherboard: ASUS Crosshair V Formula AM3+ AMD 990FX SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX AMD Gaming Motherboard with 3-Way SLI/CrossFireX Support and UEFI BIOS
GFX Card (2x): MSI N560GTX-TI Twin Frozr II/OC GeForce GTX 560 Ti (Fermi) 1GB 256-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready SLI Support Video Card
CPU: AMD Phenom II X6 1100T Black Edition Thuban 3.3GHz, 3.7GHz Turbo 6 x 512KB L2 Cache 6MB L3 Cache Socket AM3 125W Six-Core Desktop Processor HDE00ZFBGRBOX
SSD: OCZ Vertex 3 VTX3-25SAT3-120G 2.5" 120GB SATA III MLC Internal Solid State Drive (SSD)
RAM: CORSAIR Vengeance 16GB (4 x 4GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800) Desktop Memory Model CML16GX3M4A1600C9B
I think is gonna be niiiceee, but I wanna hear from the experts
How does this look to run BF3 and maybe Skyrim and any other new games at 160%
Motherboard: ASUS Crosshair V Formula AM3+ AMD 990FX SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX AMD Gaming Motherboard with 3-Way SLI/CrossFireX Support and UEFI BIOS
GFX Card (2x): MSI N560GTX-TI Twin Frozr II/OC GeForce GTX 560 Ti (Fermi) 1GB 256-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready SLI Support Video Card
CPU: AMD Phenom II X6 1100T Black Edition Thuban 3.3GHz, 3.7GHz Turbo 6 x 512KB L2 Cache 6MB L3 Cache Socket AM3 125W Six-Core Desktop Processor HDE00ZFBGRBOX
SSD: OCZ Vertex 3 VTX3-25SAT3-120G 2.5" 120GB SATA III MLC Internal Solid State Drive (SSD)
RAM: CORSAIR Vengeance 16GB (4 x 4GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800) Desktop Memory Model CML16GX3M4A1600C9B
I think is gonna be niiiceee, but I wanna hear from the experts
Ludovician
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mkenyon said:
How do you mean? I'm tending to lean more towards ATI - seems that the better tesselation performance would give it a tad better future-proofing. If I do get a GTX 560 Ti HAWK, it'd have to last me at least a year, easily.
EDIT: Meant Nvidia, not ATI.
Oh man, should have just waited 1 more month for Bulldozer. That thuban will perform about the same, if not slightly worse than the i3 2100 in games. You'll probably get decent performance out of it, but you certainly won't be able to put those sliders to max.ChiefKief said:
As in, do you want to put those sliders to max? Are you okay with turning a few things down and still getting good performance? Where do you draw the line on what is acceptable for you? Do you mostly play AAA graphic hogs or are those just more eye candy that you want to play in theory, but spend most of your time playing LoL?Ludovician said:
Ludovician
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mkenyon said:
I'm ok with things like "if I just put this thing down, it'll run super-smooth", some of that really fancy stuff that is just too taxing, and doesn't really add as much as they tax. I'm not one that plays games for graphics alone. If I get a card now, I'd want it to work great with Skyrim, Witcher 2, Shogun 2 and Trackmania 2, off of the top of my head, at 1920x1200, and it seems like this card will be able to handle that. I'd just want to know that it'd hold up for the next year.
I thought my 8800GTS ran Anno 1404 at 1280x1024 perfectly, with just a thing or two set down - so that should be some indication of what I think is acceptable.
Ludovician
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Yeah, makes sense. Thanks for the help!
BannedEpisode
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http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0051OL8R4/?tag=neogaf0e-20
Just ordered this laptop for 599.99. Did I do okay?
I had a 20% off any laptop code so I saved about 150 bucks and I get a free 360.
If I'm not mistaken the 540m is a pretty decent mobile graphics card.
Just ordered this laptop for 599.99. Did I do okay?
I had a 20% off any laptop code so I saved about 150 bucks and I get a free 360.
If I'm not mistaken the 540m is a pretty decent mobile graphics card.
RumblingRosco
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SnakeSlashRO said:
I've honestly never even heard of a home computer with 32 GB of RAM. I have heard of 2x 580s though!
BannedEpisode
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mkenyon said:
Oh. My bad then.
Disregard this post, I only went here because the laptop thread seems more gaming oriented. I mentioned the graphics card but I honestly didnt buy it for gaming.
The Teachinator
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Karmum said:
For gaming, no. If you've already got a 2500 just wait. See how ivy is. Same goes for gpu in my book. If you're already running an NVidia 500 series card just wait till Kepler in January if you really need to upgrade.
AbsoluteZero
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So, as much as I love the thing, the scroll wheel on my Microsoft Sidewinder X5 mouse is sticking like hell. I tried opening it but there was nothing gunking it up that I could see.
Any suggestions for a nice mouse that's not $ridiculous?
Any suggestions for a nice mouse that's not $ridiculous?
childplease
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Flying_Phoenix said:
Same SSD I bought today for 80 bucks, 50 after mail in rebate.
RAID 0 mechanical drives would be less costly, 2TB vs. 64gigs, and just as fast. That 12.7 seconds would turn into 6.35. Stupid comparison, IMO. I wonder if he even used the same RAM.Flying_Phoenix said:
That proc is really long in the tooth, it's basically 3 year old architecture and not really any faster in games than even the 955 PII X4. Most games only use 1-3 cores, so 6 is silly unless you're doing something like a linux virtual machine in the background. The core series is newer architecture than the PII series, and we're already on the second generation of the core series, sandybridge being the newest.ChiefKief said:
Litereally, one month from now, the all new AMD procs are being released. Fortunately for you, you have the right kind of mobo for those procs (AM3+). Just means you bought a processor that is essentially the Walking Dead.
It'll run these new games coming out, I'm just betting that your CPU is going to end up bottlenecking your performance. This is coming from a guy who has two gaming rigs, both with PII procs (965 and 980).
Super nice motherboard though man, I hope you get out of that what it is designed for. I'm running the Crosshair IV, and am really familiar with the tools if you need any tips to get the most out of your system. You should be able to get that proc right around 4.0-4.2Ghz, which should help quite a bit in games, and delay the need for a bulldozer upgrade. Feel free to PM me anytime.
Update: high pitched noise "changes" frequency if i unplug the adsl cable, if i plug 360 wireless adapter in, etc.
Starting to look mobo related. Im gonna take it to the place where i bought the mobo tomorrow anyway, lets just hope there's an end to this shit.
edit: oh, the only issue with it being mobo-related is that i still get really loud coil whine even when the PC is turned off.. so i get i got a loud faulty PSU as well.. ? :/
Also should note that the noise changes, goes apeshit, up and down, does flips and whatnot when i launch say.. Crysis Warhead. What's weird is that it does this more during the loading/logo screens rather than in the game itself.
Not coming from the GPU, before you mention it. Its definetly coming from the PSU, but at this point after trying two different ones (and with the noise changes when using USB and other motherboard related aspects), im guessing its rather the "relationship" between the mobo and the PSU, so yeah.
Pulling shit out of a hat here, but i got nothing.
Starting to look mobo related. Im gonna take it to the place where i bought the mobo tomorrow anyway, lets just hope there's an end to this shit.
edit: oh, the only issue with it being mobo-related is that i still get really loud coil whine even when the PC is turned off.. so i get i got a loud faulty PSU as well.. ? :/
Also should note that the noise changes, goes apeshit, up and down, does flips and whatnot when i launch say.. Crysis Warhead. What's weird is that it does this more during the loading/logo screens rather than in the game itself.
Not coming from the GPU, before you mention it. Its definetly coming from the PSU, but at this point after trying two different ones (and with the noise changes when using USB and other motherboard related aspects), im guessing its rather the "relationship" between the mobo and the PSU, so yeah.
Pulling shit out of a hat here, but i got nothing.
mkenyon said:
Load time reductions are really not that linear at all. My Vertex 3 does not load 5 times as fast as my Samsung F4, and it barely loads any faster than my old Intel X25-M. It really depends on the game, as well. Heroes of Newerth, for example, barely loads faster than on an HDD (like, maybe 10% faster).
HotHamWater
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Alright about to pull the trigger on this:
PSU/DVD Drive/Windows is getting carried over.
Anything wrong here?
PSU/DVD Drive/Windows is getting carried over.
Anything wrong here?
Flying_Phoenix
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HotHamWater
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Flying_Phoenix said:
They won't balloon suddenly, but there will be a gradual rise as always. SWTOR's beta, for example, is 30GB (give or take).
RumblingRosco
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HotHamWater said:Alright about to pull the trigger on this:
PSU/DVD Drive/Windows is getting carried over.
Anything wrong here?
I can't recall why, but I get the feeling you do not want the P8P67-M... I wish I knew why, I just seem to recall thinking that it's not a board you'd want.
Pixel Pete
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I'm hoping to get a one up on an elder scrolls game, but my only real upgrade has been my video card (GTX460 1gig) in the last couple years. I'm still kicking 4 gigs of ram on a 2.1 dual core 32 bit system. It runs everything else new like a treat, Crysis 2 and Witcher 2 both beautifully.
But the Oblivion launch, it haunts me.
But the Oblivion launch, it haunts me.
Hawk269
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A friend of mine built a new computer and he decided to go with an Nvidia Quadro 4000. He is doing graphics work etc. But I also noticed he payed alot for his card and since I dont know much of what these quadro cards do, what is the difference between a quad 4000 and a 580?
Looking at his specs for the card, a 580 beats it almost in everything, so just wondering why a 4000 sells for almost 700 vs 500 for a 580.
Looking at his specs for the card, a 580 beats it almost in everything, so just wondering why a 4000 sells for almost 700 vs 500 for a 580.
Tallshortman
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Karmum said:
Honestly, not really unless you're doing video encoding and heavily multithreaded apps. They're largely equal is terms of gaming performance with no noticeable difference except maybe in a game like Civ5 which is very CPU heavy.
Tallshortman
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Hawk269 said:
Quadros are better at what they're designed for, multimedia apps such as video encoding and media design. 580s are undoutably better in terms of gaming performance because that's what they're designed for. It's really comparing cards that are meant for two different functions.
Tallshortman
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HotHamWater said:Alright about to pull the trigger on this:
PSU/DVD Drive/Windows is getting carried over.
Anything wrong here?
iirc the Seagate 7200.12 have some sort of reliability issues and bugs. I'd go with a WD caviar black or samsung spinpoint F3. They should both be about the same price as the seagate.
Hey PC GAF, I'm looking at that NewEgg wishlist for both the $600 set and the $1000 set, and I'm wondering if anyone could give me a sense of what they're capable of, exactly.
I ultimately just want a computer for 3D modeling and rendering, which I don't think will be a problem with either set, but for gaming stuff I'm wondering how far these would be pushing things. Would the $600 wishlist specs be able to run BF3 ok? Or should I try to mix and match?
My main concern is whether the i3 in the $600 set is ok, or if the i5 is any better in significant ways.
I ultimately just want a computer for 3D modeling and rendering, which I don't think will be a problem with either set, but for gaming stuff I'm wondering how far these would be pushing things. Would the $600 wishlist specs be able to run BF3 ok? Or should I try to mix and match?
My main concern is whether the i3 in the $600 set is ok, or if the i5 is any better in significant ways.
Flying_Phoenix
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HotHamWater said:
I'm really starting to consider to just get a HDD for games for now and wait until a can grab a 512MB SSD in two years or so for $300.
How long until the next generation of SSD? Like the jump from SATA II to SATA III?
cartman414
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You should still get one for OS and key app loading, where you'll see the biggest gains. Booting in 10-15 seconds is priceless.
Tallshortman
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Ellis Kim said:
Well it certainly depends on what you're aiming for. For BF3 we simply don't know but indications are that it will be a CPU heavy game like BC2 and from alpha benchmarks (though with those you have to take with a grain of salt). Dual cores traditional lag behind quad cores for these games.
Right now, for most games the i3 2100 isn't a huge amount much slower than the 2500k but for future games if you want no CPU bottlenecking you'll likely want the 2500k since we're seeing more and more CPU intensive games.
Flying_Phoenix
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cartman414 said:
I already have one for my OS. A 120 GB Agility.
cartman414
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Flying_Phoenix said:
Was talking to Jtrizzy.
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