Better to get a 60GB SSD. That way you can install Windows and you most used programs on it. You can find some under $100. If you go with a 30GB, you can really only fit Windows. And, it's not hard to run Windows on one drive with everything else on another drive. Just during program installation, change the default location to the the other drive, usually from C:xxxx to D:xxxx.drakesfortune said:
"I need a New PC!" 2011 Thread of reading the OP. Seriously. [Part 2]
- Thread starter Hazaro
- Start date
- Status
SnakeSlashRO
Banned
CPU: Intel Core i5-2500K Sandy Bridge 3.3GHz (3.7GHz Turbo Boost) 4 x 256KB L2 Cache 6MB L3 Cache LGA 1155 95W
MOBO: MSI P67A-G43 (B3) LGA 1155 Intel P67 SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX Intel Motherboard
GPU: EVGA SuperClocked 012-P3-1573-KR GeForce GTX 570 HD w/Display-Port (Fermi) 1280MB 320-bit GDDR5
PSU: COOLER MASTER eXtreme Power Plus RS-550-PCAR-E3 550W ATX12V V2.3 SLI (N82E16817171038)
RAM: Patriot Signature 8GB (2x4GB) DDR3-1600
Fans: Antec 761345-75026-4 120mm Blue LED Case Fan (N82E16835209013)
Case: COOLER MASTER Elite 430 RC-430-KWN1 Black Steel (N82E16811119227)
Should I get the COOLER MASTER Hyper 212 Plus RR-B10-212P-G1 ? Will my machine get that hot where I should change what comes stock with the CPU? I have never made a machine before, and i believe I am ready to start. Any advice would be greatly appreciated!!!
MOBO: MSI P67A-G43 (B3) LGA 1155 Intel P67 SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX Intel Motherboard
GPU: EVGA SuperClocked 012-P3-1573-KR GeForce GTX 570 HD w/Display-Port (Fermi) 1280MB 320-bit GDDR5
PSU: COOLER MASTER eXtreme Power Plus RS-550-PCAR-E3 550W ATX12V V2.3 SLI (N82E16817171038)
RAM: Patriot Signature 8GB (2x4GB) DDR3-1600
Fans: Antec 761345-75026-4 120mm Blue LED Case Fan (N82E16835209013)
Case: COOLER MASTER Elite 430 RC-430-KWN1 Black Steel (N82E16811119227)
Should I get the COOLER MASTER Hyper 212 Plus RR-B10-212P-G1 ? Will my machine get that hot where I should change what comes stock with the CPU? I have never made a machine before, and i believe I am ready to start. Any advice would be greatly appreciated!!!
In my opinion you're better off saving for a larger SSD.drakesfortune said:
Windows would have to wait for the secondary drive to spin up, negating much of the boot time benefit, although the system responsiveness would be nice.
That said, doesn't Win 7 use like 30GB as a base install?
This isn't that much more. $115 for 60GB.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820148441
I kept hearing bad stories about the Vertex so I told my friend to buy this out of a recommendation in this thread.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820148441
I kept hearing bad stories about the Vertex so I told my friend to buy this out of a recommendation in this thread.
drakesfortune
Directions: Pull String For Uninformed Rant
commissar said:
Well, I googled it, and the answer I found was that it sets aside/uses 16GB. Don't know if that's true though.
The thing is, I need a big hard drive in there anyways. I like to have a lot of games installed, and I have 70GB of music or so. So I need at least 500GB, and then we're talking dollars I don't want to spend on an HD.
Are there any cheap and good 100gb or so. That way I could put all of my programs on there, and the current game I'm playing, and leave it at that. I'm guessing I'm stuck waiting for the other drive to spin up anyways. Damn, I can't wait for SSD's to be cheaper and larger.drakesfortune
Directions: Pull String For Uninformed Rant
Firestorm said:
So how do you use your SSD, assuming you have one? Do you put the OS and your programs on there, and your music, pictures, and other data on regular HD? Do you find it cumbersome to manage the data with two separate drives?
I built my PC about a year ago, but at the time I used my old graphics card (GTS 250) instead of upgrading. The card is definitely out of date and I'm looking to spend 200 to 300 (maybe more) dollars on a new GPU. What are the best options and what kind of performance could I expect in a game like BF3? I know the game isn't out yet, but what do you think would be required to run the game on high at 1080p?
Tallshortman
Member
SnakeSlashRO said:
You'll be fine with stock cooler unless you want to overclock.
SnakeSlashRO
Banned
Tallshortman said:
I had planned on using the option since I have it, How can I tell the temp of my CPU? Also I assume I should change then... Ill go pick it up tomorrow.
Tallshortman
Member
SnakeSlashRO said:
There are a lot of apps out there that can show you your clock and core temps. I use CPU Z and Core Temp. Yeah if you want to get some good overclocks you'll want to get a 212+.
EhrgeizVII
Member
Uriah said:
You could try and go for a Crossfire setup, using two AMD HD6870's. You'll be set for a long time.
Flying_Phoenix
Banned
LordCanti said:
Always, ALWAYS, ALWAYS, keep your computer hooked up to a surge protector.
I think he's referring to me. I only suggest RAID 0 for a games/steam drive. Outside of my fileserver, all 5 of my rigs/laptops have been outfitted with Vertex 2 90/Corsair F90s for the OS and basic programs. I'm with you on this one.knitoe said:
*edit* Sorry.. double post. Haven't finished coffee yet.
Psychotext
Member
Ok... all built (both machines) and my SSD is finally in use after two years being sat on my desk. Quick question though, should I do anything in particular in Windows to ensure it's working as well as it should be with the SSD? Swap file setup and whatnot?
I've put in a random 750gb HDD I had hanging around as well so I was thinking that I should probably install some things to that rather than the SSD (which is only 160gb and will no doubt fill up pretty quickly).
I've put in a random 750gb HDD I had hanging around as well so I was thinking that I should probably install some things to that rather than the SSD (which is only 160gb and will no doubt fill up pretty quickly).
drakesfortune
Directions: Pull String For Uninformed Rant
Just thought I'd post that Amazon has the 24" ASUS-VE248H LED monitor for $179.99 w/free shipping.
http://www.amazon.com/dp/B0043T7FHK/?tag=neogaf0e-20
This was linked to a few pages back at buy.com for $195 without free shipping. So it saved me about $50 buying a pair from Amazon.
http://www.amazon.com/dp/B0043T7FHK/?tag=neogaf0e-20
This was linked to a few pages back at buy.com for $195 without free shipping. So it saved me about $50 buying a pair from Amazon.
Don't crossfire unless you want to be tinkering all the time and praying that crossfire profiles are released for the game you want to use it on. I've had crossfire 5870s for about 2 months now, and have only been able to really use it a few times. Most the time I have it disabled.Uriah said:
If you're buying for BF3 wait. If you want to spend $300, get a 69502GB or 560Ti.
mkenyon said:
Sound advice. I recently downgraded my 5970 to a GTX 580 because I had reached my breaking point. Almost every single game was having issues with the Crossfire card, whether it be flickering shadows in Shift 2, terrible performance in GTA IV or tons of micro-stutters in ArmA 2 - I had it all. Sometimes you won't ever see a fix for many of these issues even with new drivers and new profiles.
Despite the GTX 580, on paper being slower than the 5970, I got a massive performance boost in a lot of games and now every game is running smooth as butter.
I don't recommend Crossfire / SLI setups to anyone unless they know what they are getting into.
Foliorum Viridum
Banned
Right guys, I'm looking for a new case. I want it to be big, have lots of fan slots and easy to work with. Basically, a high end one that will last, rather than the shitty ones I've been buying.
http://www.ebuyer.com/191197-coolermaster-cm-690-ii-advanced-case-rc-692-kkn2
Coolermaster CM 690 II Advanced for £75 seems like my best bet. Am I overlooking a better one? I don't really want to spend more and that one looks great.
http://www.ebuyer.com/191197-coolermaster-cm-690-ii-advanced-case-rc-692-kkn2
Coolermaster CM 690 II Advanced for £75 seems like my best bet. Am I overlooking a better one? I don't really want to spend more and that one looks great.
Tallshortman
Member
garath said:
It shouldn't G.Skill ripjaws work fine and they both have very similar looking/sized heatsinks.
Mr Nightman
Banned
I personally use a haf 912 case, very roomy and very easy to build in, 50 bucks after mail in rebate at newegg, room for up to 6 120mm fans. great caseFoliorum Viridum said:
Tallshortman said:
They definitely got in the way for my build. I had to RMA them and get the low profile version. The pictures just don't do the size of those heatsinks justice lol.
The only difference is I had an MSI board. However, someone said the board layouts are very similar and it would probably be an issue with other boards as well. I'm curious how he makes out.
You can always clip off the heatsinks. They don't really do much anyway, they're almost entirely aesthetic. It started as a big thing because DDR2 ran hot. DDR3 doesnt, but even then, you need sinks that have a good amount of copper to do much of anything, which the vengeance doesnt have. The Dominator does though.
So after all the confusion about applying thermal paste to the Hyper 212+, just for my own edification I went to Cooler Master's website and found they have a video on how to install it. Great!
So here is what I found:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hSq_xbxsm7Q&feature=player_detailpage#t=129s
I actually laughed out loud.
So here is what I found:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hSq_xbxsm7Q&feature=player_detailpage#t=129s
I actually laughed out loud.
EhrgeizVII
Member
Sethos said:
The 6000-series scales MUCH better with Crossfire.
Scaling well or not, the game needs to be crossfire compatible out of the box or have profiles released. HoN and APB Reloaded, for example, are unplayable with Crossfire enabled. Even some games that get profiles end up having microstutter issues or artifacting. This has been my experience over the past 2 months.EhrgeizVII said:
IonicSnake
Banned
I was thinking of two 6870s in Crossfire or just go with a 6950. Now I'm just gonna go with a 2gb 6950 I think.
Flame Lord
Member
I was checking SSD speeds and I saw that Ocz drives are supposed to be the fastest around. But when I look at the reviews and even some posts in this thread it seems like they either break down quickly or end up DOA a lot of the time. Should I stick with the Intel SSD I've picked or risk the Ocz drives?
Guerrillas in the Mist
Member
Stuff for my rig should be arriving tomorrow, pretty excited about the whole thing.
Just one question though, I've ordered a PCI wireless card, as I won't have my PC near the router most of the time, and I'm wondering if there is any noteworthy difference between one for a PCI slot and one for a PCIe slot?
Just one question though, I've ordered a PCI wireless card, as I won't have my PC near the router most of the time, and I'm wondering if there is any noteworthy difference between one for a PCI slot and one for a PCIe slot?
Yuuup, way less issues with SLI. Same kind of stuff still exists for sure though. The added benefit of SLI is that you can create your own profiles, which is why you hear less about it.Smokey said:
For those who can't, you're still going to be at the whim of Nvidia adding profiles for the game you're hoping for.
CarbonatedFalcon
Member
garath said:
That's terrible. The other funny thing about it is how freaking huge the cooler is in comparison to the board.
What's the deal with existing AM3+ motherboards?
Are these just boards with the AM3+ socket that will need a BIOS update once Bulldozer arrives? Or are these boards ready to go as-is?
And can we expect a wave of new AM3+ boards in 6-8 weeks?
I want to be able to reuse some existing parts (video card, sound card, WiFi adapter), but I'll need a board with 2 PCI slots to do that. The existing high-end AM3+ boards all seem to have only 1 PCI slot. Gigabyte has a board with 6 PCI Express slots. Absurd!
I could always just get a new PCIe sound card, but I'd like to save cash as much as possible, obviously.
Are these just boards with the AM3+ socket that will need a BIOS update once Bulldozer arrives? Or are these boards ready to go as-is?
And can we expect a wave of new AM3+ boards in 6-8 weeks?
I want to be able to reuse some existing parts (video card, sound card, WiFi adapter), but I'll need a board with 2 PCI slots to do that. The existing high-end AM3+ boards all seem to have only 1 PCI slot. Gigabyte has a board with 6 PCI Express slots. Absurd!
I could always just get a new PCIe sound card, but I'd like to save cash as much as possible, obviously.
Goldrusher
Member
Very few cards have those protectors.Citizen K said:
edit: Wait, didn't notice you mentioned the brand of the card.
- Status