"I need a New PC!" 2011 Thread of reading the OP. Seriously. [Part 2]
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Citizen K said:
This video shows them having the protectors (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5mhp4CkPcCY) but ASUS could have changed it at any time.
If the thing works, I wouldn't worry about it. I can understand the desire to have a new product when spending that much money though.
Laurentius
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TheExodu5 said:
I'm not a big fan of the HAF 912's design, which is part of the reason I'm going with the 690 II, unless something changes my mind in the next couple days.
LordCanti said:
Yeah it cost a lot so I really expect brand spanking new hardware. I just spent my evening putting this thing together and...... my bloody keyboard is ps/2 so I cant even test it now until tomorrow
Regarding the graphics card, I suspect it will work cos the unit itself looks good. Its just that the sellotape that encloses the bag was clearly re-sealed and like I said the plastic protectors were missing. I'm gonna get it up and running tomorrow, I might call scan and see if they can send me another one but I dont want to have to send this one and wait for a new one to arrive. I'm hoping they send a new one and take the old one at the same time...
SneakyStephan
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SnakeSlashRO said:
An aftermarket cpu cooler is always a great idea.
If you don't OC or care about temps, you will still benifit greatly from using one with a large heatsink and a 120mm quality fan that can run at like 500rpm.
It will be dead quiet, stock coolers are always quite noisy.
A decent cpu cooler doesn't have to be expensive, my arctic freezer pro cost me like 25 euros and it's the best 25 bucks I spent on it.
pedr0theli0n
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Ok read some of the OP so hopefully I'm doing this right, but basically my brother and I have decided to build our first gaming rigs mostly in preparation for diablo III. So our main goal would be build the cheapest rig that plays DIII very well, and hopefully plays some more graphic intensive games well enough that we've been wanting to play but havent been able to (for me that would include the Witcher 2, maybe Crysis for shits and gigs). But really a cheap rig that plays DIII high end is the main goal. I was thinking this would probably be doable in the $500 - $700 range.
One question I have is whether or not to go SSD. From what I've read theres a pretty significant speed boost, and they retain their value well. So I'd consider spending more on this if you guys thought it was a good idea. Do you need to make sure other components work with this type of hard drive?
I guess I'll fill out that little questionnaire thingy
Basic Desktop Questions:
Your Current Specs: we both have macbook pro's (great laptops, just not for gaming)
Budget: $500-$700 USA
Main Use: Light Gaming (Diablo III) with hopefully the ability to at least try some of the heavier-hitting games (Crysis, Witcher 2)
Monitor Resolution: I have this monitor, which i think does 1920 x 1080
List SPECIFIC games that you MUST be able to play: Diablo III, Starcraft II
Are reusing any parts?: nah, probably start from scratch
When will you build?: We can wait, our only goal is to have them by DIII release
Will you be overclocking?: I have no idea how to overclock. If its not too hard, and its worth it, then yeah. If its too complicated I'll skip.
Any suggestions appreciated
One question I have is whether or not to go SSD. From what I've read theres a pretty significant speed boost, and they retain their value well. So I'd consider spending more on this if you guys thought it was a good idea. Do you need to make sure other components work with this type of hard drive?
I guess I'll fill out that little questionnaire thingy
Basic Desktop Questions:
Your Current Specs: we both have macbook pro's
(great laptops, just not for gaming)Budget: $500-$700 USA
Main Use: Light Gaming (Diablo III) with hopefully the ability to at least try some of the heavier-hitting games (Crysis, Witcher 2)
Monitor Resolution: I have this monitor, which i think does 1920 x 1080
List SPECIFIC games that you MUST be able to play: Diablo III, Starcraft II
Are reusing any parts?: nah, probably start from scratch
When will you build?: We can wait, our only goal is to have them by DIII release
Will you be overclocking?: I have no idea how to overclock. If its not too hard, and its worth it, then yeah. If its too complicated I'll skip.
Any suggestions appreciated
I've got my 2500k running at 4.8GHz with the vcore a little shy of 1.4v, but it hits around 68-74C under load. Think I should play around with it more, scale it back, or leave it be? Also, does anyone have any recommendations for OC'ing a GTX 560ti?
This machine has really ruined console games for me. Made the mistake of checking out Arkham Asylum maxed out (PhysX on high is a sweet addition) and then turned on the game for PS3 afterwards, and that was a much bigger difference than I was expecting. I feel like SLI would currently be overkill for me, but I might investigate down the road.
This machine has really ruined console games for me. Made the mistake of checking out Arkham Asylum maxed out (PhysX on high is a sweet addition) and then turned on the game for PS3 afterwards, and that was a much bigger difference than I was expecting. I feel like SLI would currently be overkill for me, but I might investigate down the road.
black_vegeta
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My ASUS GTX 570 came with the plasstic protectors.Citizen K said:Yeah it cost a lot so I really expect brand spanking new hardware. I just spent my evening putting this thing together and...... my bloody keyboard is ps/2 so I cant even test it now until tomorrow
Regarding the graphics card, I suspect it will work cos the unit itself looks good. Its just that the sellotape that encloses the bag was clearly re-sealed and like I said the plastic protectors were missing. I'm gonna get it up and running tomorrow, I might call scan and see if they can send me another one but I dont want to have to send this one and wait for a new one to arrive. I'm hoping they send a new one and take the old one at the same time...
As mentioned before, as long as it works and in good shape...
RumblingRosco
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LaneDS said:
What I read around the 'net is that you don't want above 1.33-1.35 V for a 24/7 OC on the 2500k/2600k. Those temps are fine though, so that's a plus... but, if it were my i5, I'd lower it to around a 4.6 GHz clock and see where that gets me on voltage. Just my take.
Tallshortman
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LaneDS said:
Run it under load for a while and make sure it doesn't get much higher than what you have now. Under 80c is okay/fine for overclocked SB chips. Under 70 is a little more ideal to ensure longevity.
I wouldn't be afraid of 1.4v with your temps. I ran my CPU at 5ghz/1.45v for almost a month without any degredation or damage to my chip. A lot of people on OCN & [H]ardForum are running their chips at 1.52v on water. 4.8ghz is overkill for gaming though. If you fold on your CPU or encode then its a nice OC.LaneDS said:
Also what the poster above me said. I'd run Small FFTs in Prime95 for about 6hrs to ensure stability and monitor temps.
childplease
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Began my build today.
Psu mounted
Motherboard mounted after making so many mistakes.
Cpu installed
hyper 212 installed
Now I have to wire everything , sorta overwhelmed.
Psu mounted
Motherboard mounted after making so many mistakes.
Cpu installed
hyper 212 installed
Now I have to wire everything , sorta overwhelmed.
Flying_Phoenix
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When is it likely for Sata 4 to come out?
Will this motherboard and memory be good with the lovely MSI 580 and 2600k that came in the mail today? I know this has been rehashed endlessly, and I've read the op many times but still would like some help. This is turning out to be an $1,800 build, so I want to get it right. I feel like I might as well get a Z68 since I already have a 2600k. Not planning to ssd cache or transcode lots of video though. Thanks for all the help.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813131730
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231311
I had this case picked out, but don't really care for the red light on the front and am looking for low key and the best for cooling etc.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811119160
Thanks for all the help over the last few weeks/months as I've picked out the parts for my first gaming pc since the original Doom. I'll be ordering today and starting to build as soon as the parts get here.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813131730
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231311
I had this case picked out, but don't really care for the red light on the front and am looking for low key and the best for cooling etc.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811119160
Thanks for all the help over the last few weeks/months as I've picked out the parts for my first gaming pc since the original Doom. I'll be ordering today and starting to build as soon as the parts get here.
Yaska
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Still waiting for my Antec Twelve Hundred. Was wondering if I should get an Antec PSU specifically designed for that case or just go for a "normal" modular PSU?
Also was wondering if I should try out liquid cooling with Antec Kühler H2O 920. Anyone have any experience with aforementioned coolers? Would use it with Intel i7 2600k
Also was wondering if I should try out liquid cooling with Antec Kühler H2O 920. Anyone have any experience with aforementioned coolers? Would use it with Intel i7 2600k
Hello there gaf.
Would like to upgrade my GPU. I don't have any idea how this works. I want to be able to play the current games of this gen ( Mass Effect 2, Batman Arkham Asylum etc.) on full settings.
Budget of $160
What GF card do I need?
What else do I need?
My Specs:
Processor (CPU) Intel® Pentium® DualCore E5700 (3.0GHz) 800MHz FSB/2MB Cache
Motherboard ASUS® P5G41T-M LX2 S: MICRO ATX VALUE BOARD & DDR3, SATA-II, 2 x PCI
Memory (RAM) 2GB SAMSUNG DDR3 DUAL-DDR3 1333MHz (1 x 2GB)
Graphics Card 512MB NVIDIA GEFORCE 210 PCI EXPRESS
Memory - 1st Hard Disk 1TB SERIAL ATA 3-Gb/s HARD DRIVE WITH 16MB CACHE (7,200rpm)
1st DVD/BLU-RAY Drive 10x BLU-RAY ROM DRIVE, 16x DVD ±R/±RW (£48)
Memory Card Reader INTERNAL 52 IN 1 CARD READER (XD, MS, CF, SD, etc) + 1 x USB 2.0 PORT
Power Supply & Case Cooling 350W Dual Rail PSU + 120mm Case Fan
Processor Cooling INTEL SOCKET LGA775 STANDARD CPU COOLER
Sound Card ONBOARD 6 CHANNEL (5.1) HIGH DEF AUDIO (AS STANDARD)
Network Facilities ONBOARD 10/100/1000 GIGABIT LAN PORT
USB Options 4 x USB 2.0 PORTS @ BACK PANEL (MIN 2 FRONT PORTS) AS STANDARD
Operating System Windows 7 Home Premium 64 Bit - ( Also MAC OS X 10.6 and Ubuntu)
Would like to upgrade my GPU. I don't have any idea how this works. I want to be able to play the current games of this gen ( Mass Effect 2, Batman Arkham Asylum etc.) on full settings.
Budget of $160
What GF card do I need?
What else do I need?
My Specs:
Processor (CPU) Intel® Pentium® DualCore E5700 (3.0GHz) 800MHz FSB/2MB Cache
Motherboard ASUS® P5G41T-M LX2 S: MICRO ATX VALUE BOARD & DDR3, SATA-II, 2 x PCI
Memory (RAM) 2GB SAMSUNG DDR3 DUAL-DDR3 1333MHz (1 x 2GB)
Graphics Card 512MB NVIDIA GEFORCE 210 PCI EXPRESS
Memory - 1st Hard Disk 1TB SERIAL ATA 3-Gb/s HARD DRIVE WITH 16MB CACHE (7,200rpm)
1st DVD/BLU-RAY Drive 10x BLU-RAY ROM DRIVE, 16x DVD ±R/±RW (£48)
Memory Card Reader INTERNAL 52 IN 1 CARD READER (XD, MS, CF, SD, etc) + 1 x USB 2.0 PORT
Power Supply & Case Cooling 350W Dual Rail PSU + 120mm Case Fan
Processor Cooling INTEL SOCKET LGA775 STANDARD CPU COOLER
Sound Card ONBOARD 6 CHANNEL (5.1) HIGH DEF AUDIO (AS STANDARD)
Network Facilities ONBOARD 10/100/1000 GIGABIT LAN PORT
USB Options 4 x USB 2.0 PORTS @ BACK PANEL (MIN 2 FRONT PORTS) AS STANDARD
Operating System Windows 7 Home Premium 64 Bit - ( Also MAC OS X 10.6 and Ubuntu)
Wolf Akela
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pedr0theli0n
Neo Member
Working on a build here... Couple questions
Is it worth doing a setup that includes a small (even 64GB) SSD as your main drive with an additional standard HDD for storing files?
Pretty sure I wanna go with the i5 2500K, would a GPU in the $150 range be suitable for this? or should I spend more on a higher end GPU? Or should I consider the i3?
Once I figure that out, I'll probably need help selecting a mobo and PSU. Any help would be appreciated.
Is it worth doing a setup that includes a small (even 64GB) SSD as your main drive with an additional standard HDD for storing files?
Pretty sure I wanna go with the i5 2500K, would a GPU in the $150 range be suitable for this? or should I spend more on a higher end GPU? Or should I consider the i3?
Once I figure that out, I'll probably need help selecting a mobo and PSU. Any help would be appreciated.
Wolf Akela
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Well, your CPU will still be okay, it's just that you may not see your GPU's full potential with your current one.
If you're still looking to upgrade your processor, you'll need to upgrade your motherboard too. An i3-2100 + mobo will cost you about $180.
Fortunately, you have 2GB DDR3 RAM so you'll still be fine with it though it'll feel a bit tight on some games if you max out the settings. But if you don't multitask (browser, IM, etc) while playing games then it's fine.
Wolf Akela
Member
Totally. It's also what I'm gonna do. SSD will be for OS plus games I play the most.pedr0theli0n said:
Just get the 6850 for a tiny bit over $150 and you'll be golden.
Question: I have a Q6600 cpu, 2gb ram, and a 9800 GT in my current rig, which is about 3 years old this xmas. I want to be able to run BF3 at decent settings(medium+), would a bump up in ram to 4gb, and a graphics card update be what i need? I don't plan on spending money on a new rig for about a year or so. For what its worth, Bad Company 2 runs really well at 1920x1080 on medium settings.
iSurvivedTheOutage
Member
Sooooooo Newegg has the Kingston 96GB SSD going on Shellshocker later today...
http://www.newegg.com/Special/ShellShocker.aspx?cm_sp=ShellShocker-_-20-139-638-_-08122011_3
Any thoughts on what the price might/should be?
http://www.newegg.com/Special/ShellShocker.aspx?cm_sp=ShellShocker-_-20-139-638-_-08122011_3
Any thoughts on what the price might/should be?
Wolf Akela
Member
I considered Kingston back then but I heard something about overly aggressive garbage collection.
childplease
Banned
It's ALIVE.
Turns on, goes straight to bios, Cpu fan runs also tells me hard drives are running in IDE mode.
Hmmmm Should I try to install windows 7 now ? or finish up the wiring.
Turns on, goes straight to bios, Cpu fan runs also tells me hard drives are running in IDE mode.
Hmmmm Should I try to install windows 7 now ? or finish up the wiring.
childplease
Banned
ok its built, using the onboard graphics until my video card gets here monday.
When trying to install windows 7 after enabling raid 0 I get the following message.
Anyone know how to fix ?
AwesomeSauce
MagsMoonshine
Adding a new gpu and more ram will refresh your system pretty well. Overclock the cpu and you should be set for what you want to do.ReconYoda said:
What is your budget for your upgrades?
SnakeSlashRO
Banned
OK, I have been up since about 10PM yesterday PST.... I have not slept and I am really confused lol. I kinda feel like I was a little in over my head... but I have made some progress. I need to know if I can connect this stuff or if I will damage my MOBO or GFX card...
I have taken a picture of my set up... the wires are all out cause I wanted to be able to show you what I don't understand...
I already had the realization that two old DVD drives I wanted to use couldn't be used cause they were IDE... and not SATA... =\
Im using....
MSI P67A-G43 MOBO
EVGA GTX 570 HD SC
PATROIT DDR3 8GB 2x4GB PC3-12800
Hyper 212 Plus CPU Cooler
I5 2500K CPU
What is in red, I have a 120mm fan connected on the top to suck the hot air out of the machine... its connected to the power supply and connected to another fans power... they like plugged into each other.
The green is what goes into the graphics card, and I have it plugged into the powersupplys input for that particular cable... but either there isnt enough of those cables from my PSU or I am doing it wrong...
and in the Blue, I am assuming that is the SATA power cables... they are coming from the PSU, I can just plug those into my SATA hard drives correct???
I dont want to just plug this stuff up and start it, am already worried I might have messed up when applying the thermal paste stuff... >_<;;
I have taken a picture of my set up... the wires are all out cause I wanted to be able to show you what I don't understand...
I already had the realization that two old DVD drives I wanted to use couldn't be used cause they were IDE... and not SATA... =\
Im using....
MSI P67A-G43 MOBO
EVGA GTX 570 HD SC
PATROIT DDR3 8GB 2x4GB PC3-12800
Hyper 212 Plus CPU Cooler
I5 2500K CPU
What is in red, I have a 120mm fan connected on the top to suck the hot air out of the machine... its connected to the power supply and connected to another fans power... they like plugged into each other.
The green is what goes into the graphics card, and I have it plugged into the powersupplys input for that particular cable... but either there isnt enough of those cables from my PSU or I am doing it wrong...
and in the Blue, I am assuming that is the SATA power cables... they are coming from the PSU, I can just plug those into my SATA hard drives correct???
I dont want to just plug this stuff up and start it, am already worried I might have messed up when applying the thermal paste stuff... >_<;;
iSurvivedTheOutage
Member
be a man!!
edit nah really man if theres no risk theres no reward. Im sure it will boot right up
edit nah really man if theres no risk theres no reward. Im sure it will boot right up
SnakeSlashRO
Banned
iSurvivedTheOutage said:be a man!!
edit nah really man if theres no risk theres no reward. Im sure it will boot right up
If your talking about my post, I just if anything want to know if the PSU can damage anything if its not connected properly. Can all those power cables be connected into one another? Even if its for diffrent hardware? such as the fan and the graphics card? If it didnt boot... then yeah I would have to go back and figure out what happened. But I just want to know if I can damage anything... maybe I am just overreacting...
Also since I have no DVD drive... is there a way to install windows from a USB drive? make it bootable and all that
chaosblade
Unconfirmed Member
Fans can be daisy-chained, they don't use a lot of power so that's fine.SnakeSlashRO said:
This is an issue. The molex->PCIe power adapters require two molex connectors. So if your 570 requires two PCIe power connectors, you're going to need four molex.SnakeSlashRO said:
Does the PSU not have any PCIe power cables built in? Pretty sure any modern PSU does, in which case you shouldn't need the adapters. Or at the very least, you should only need one (which you would be fine with).
Yep, plugs right in.SnakeSlashRO said:
Nostalgia~4ever
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Are there any good online stores in the US that ship computer components internationally? Neither Newegg or amazon does this.
I am looking for a good deal on the GTX 570.
I am looking for a good deal on the GTX 570.
SnakeSlashRO
Banned
chaosblade said:
Can you break that down a little more for me? The whole part about the molex->PCIe power adapters....
I dont quite understand... im trying to unplug them and I cant get them apart now... lmao
MisterNoisy
Member
gibon3z said:
Nice! I'm about to build another desktop in that same chassis.
If I'm not mistaken, you'll need the RAID drivers first - you should be able to find them on your mobo manufacturer's site or on the disc that came with it. You should be able to copy them onto a USB key and install them from there.
Manp
Member
gibon3z said:When trying to install windows 7 after enabling raid 0 I get the following message.
Anyone know how to fix ?
MisterNoisy said:
exactly. if you're using Intel raid you can find the latest drivers on their site.
luckily Windows 7 allow to provide drivers through a USB drive.
SnakeSlashRO said:OK, I have been up since about 10PM yesterday PST.... I have not slept and I am really confused lol. I kinda feel like I was a little in over my head... but I have made some progress. I need to know if I can connect this stuff or if I will damage my MOBO or GFX card...
I have taken a picture of my set up... the wires are all out cause I wanted to be able to show you what I don't understand...
I already had the realization that two old DVD drives I wanted to use couldn't be used cause they were IDE... and not SATA... =\
Im using....
MSI P67A-G43 MOBO
EVGA GTX 570 HD SC
PATROIT DDR3 8GB 2x4GB PC3-12800
Hyper 212 Plus CPU Cooler
I5 2500K CPU
What is in red, I have a 120mm fan connected on the top to suck the hot air out of the machine... its connected to the power supply and connected to another fans power... they like plugged into each other.
The green is what goes into the graphics card, and I have it plugged into the powersupplys input for that particular cable... but either there isnt enough of those cables from my PSU or I am doing it wrong...
and in the Blue, I am assuming that is the SATA power cables... they are coming from the PSU, I can just plug those into my SATA hard drives correct???
I dont want to just plug this stuff up and start it, am already worried I might have messed up when applying the thermal paste stuff... >_<;;
When you first start it up, go into the BIOS and look at temps in the hardware monitor. If the CPU temp starts climbing and gets above say 55 or so, you can stop and reseat the cpu cooler.
As far as the plugs, I can't see it clearly in the picture but look at those yellow wires. Those look like they may be PCI-e plugs. They should be black and have 6 pins. I believe you need two to plug into your video card. Just go ahead and plug them in and you should be fine.
chaosblade
Unconfirmed Member
Yeah, he has PCI-E plugs. Newegg says two (looks like it in his picture too), Cooler Master says one. Either way he's good since he has those adapters.garath said:
Edit: Actually Google took me to the wrong page on the CM site. He definitely has two PCIe power connectors, so he doesn't need those adapters at all.
SnakeSlashRO
Banned
chaosblade said:
Hey yeah I figured that out, I turned it on and the CPU fan spins a few times and goes on and off.... and some light near the top of the motherboard flashes on and off.... But no boot.... I have no idea what could be wrong....
any advice GAF?
Thanks for the advice on the card.
ss_lemonade
Member
Don't think so. I moved from nvidia to amd just now and haven't had any problems. Just make sure you remove old drivers/install the proper drivers for whatever card you're going to use nextCitizen K said:
drhankmccoyphd
Member
I haven't read a whole lot about SSDs, but I'm thinking of grabbing this Kingston drive which should be adequate. Essentially, I'd like to grab a budget drive for around $100 for my gaming rig as an OS drive plus a few games like Fallout New Vegas. I've only ever used mechanical drives so I'm hoping to be impressed in loading and boot up. Is this one a good fit for me?
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produ...16&SID=FWa1omij
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produ...16&SID=FWa1omij
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