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[Fallout-NL]

In that case, for max performance, you would want a 5GHz 450 mbps adapter with three spatial streams per antenna (best 3x3).

Example: TRENDnet 450 Mbps Dual Band Wireless N USB Adapter TEW-684UB

Awesome, I'll take a look at that.

 

[Corky]

Well I guess that puts an end to my journey for the dell u2711...
I was virtually hovering my mouse over the "order" button but I thought I'd sift through the reviews once more.

As someone who intends to go from u2311 to u2711, purely for gaming, the lag alone should deter me from a potential purchase. Are there even any 2560x monitors in the price range of the dell u2711 that's suitable for gaming?

 

[coopolon]

Well I guess that puts and end to my journey for the dell u2711...
I was virtually hovering my mouse over the "order" button but I thought I'd sift through the reviews once more.


As someone who intends to go from u2311 to u2711, purely for gaming, the lag alone should deter me from a potential purchase. Are there even any 2560x monitors in the price range of the dell u2711 that's suitable for gaming?

That chart made me very happy since I just bought the HPZR24W. We'll see if it ever actually ships though.

 

[Stalfos]

Well I guess that puts and end to my journey for the dell u2711...
I was virtually hovering my mouse over the "order" button but I thought I'd sift through the reviews once more.


As someone who intends to go from u2311 to u2711, purely for gaming, the lag alone should deter me from a potential purchase. Are there even any 2560x monitors in the price range of the dell u2711 that's suitable for gaming?

Do you plan on doing photography/graphics work on your computer that needs high color accuracy? If not you could get something much cheaper than the u2711 that would be more suitable for gaming.

 

[Corky]

Do you plan on doing photography/graphics work on your computer that needs high color accuracy? If not you could get something much cheaper than the u2711 that would be more suitable for gaming.

No that's the thing, I fully realize that this kind of monitor is more aimed toward "entry professional" users of image editing and whatnot, but the only criteria I'm after are :

a) 2560x1440 ( 1600 is way too expensive since they're most likely 30" and bigger)
b) Suitable for gaming

And that's it.

These are the 5 cheapest ones available, starting from $1000 for the dell to $1400 for the Apple one... :

Dell UltraSharp U2711
Fujitsu P27T-6
Samsung S27A850D
Apple Thunderbolt Display 27"
Apple LED Cinema Display 27''

So my options are shall we say, rather limited. And from the looks of it there's not a single thing on the horizon outside of that samsung monitor. >_<

 

[Fallout-NL]

In that case, for max performance, you would want a 5GHz 450 mbps adapter with three spatial streams per antenna (best 3x3).

Example: TRENDnet 450 Mbps Dual Band Wireless N USB Adapter TEW-684UB

Fuck, no one ships this to the Netherlands.

 

[knitoe]

Nice. I have the Nec EA231WMI. Guess, Nec was being to generous listing it with 14ms response time.

 

[jambo]

So it seems one of my HDDs is totally boned. Late last week I started having an issue with Windows 7 not getting past the "Starting Windows" screen. I unplugged all of the HDDs apart from the main drive and it worked great.

After doing some testing I worked out that my newest drive, a Western Digital 2TB (WDC WD20EARX-00PASB0) was the source of the problem. I checked the event logs and it had a shit tonne of bad sectors and then the computer lost power suddenly and shut down incorrectly which probably didn't help.

I booted in to Parted Magic tonight, but I can't even get it to run any tests, it just keeps coming back with "read failure". If anyone has ever had any success with anything like this I'd love some help and tips!

I'm probably just gonna take it back to my mates store for a new one, might see if they can try some data recovery on it as well.

 

[Foliorum Viridum]

Anyone ever RMA'd with AMD?

I'm in the UK, my CPU was faulty, I opened a ticket with them and I had to send it all the way to the Netherlands. With insurance etc it cost me over £10 to post it there.

Now it's been confirmed faulty they said they're sending me a replacement but no news on refunding postage. I find it ridiculous that due to a fault in their hardware I have to pay to send it so far etc etc. I have proof of postage.

I'm going to follow-up and nag them for a refund, but I was just wondering if any GAFers had experience with them in this regard.

It's so retarded they don't have a UK base for RMAing.

 

[Stalfos]

No that's the thing, I fully realize that this kind of monitor is more aimed toward "entry professional" users of image editing and whatnot, but the only criteria I'm after are :

a) 2560x1440 ( 1600 is way too expensive since they're most likely 30" and bigger)
b) Suitable for gaming

And that's it.

These are the 5 cheapest ones available, starting from $1000 for the dell to $1400 for the Apple one... :

Dell UltraSharp U2711
Fujitsu P27T-6
Samsung S27A850D
Apple Thunderbolt Display 27"
Apple LED Cinema Display 27''

So my options are shall we say, rather limited. And from the looks of it there's not a single thing on the horizon outside of that samsung monitor. >_<

Ah yeah if you are going for that resolution then your options are limited.

 

[RibbedHero]

I have a crappy CPU I'm going to upgrade out of soon, I just wanted to know if I need an aftermarket cooler to overclock either CPU or would stock cooling work?

Just quoting my question for the new page.

 

[TheExodu5]

Nice. I have the Nec EA231WMI. Guess, Nec was being to generous listing it with 14ms response time.

Input lag is not the same thing as response time.

Input lag is the amount of time it takes for the monitor to respond to input. Response time is the amount of time it takes a pixel to change from one color to another.

 

[mclaren777]

I have an ASUS P8P67 motherboard with two USB3.0 ports in the back. I recently got a Corsair thumb drive that supports USB3 but it doesn't appear in W7U if it's plugged into either of those two ports. I have USB3 enabled in my BIOS but do I also need special drivers for Windows?

 

[Velion]

I have an ASUS P8P67 motherboard with two USB3.0 ports in the back. I recently got a Corsair thumb drive that supports USB3 but it doesn't appear in W7U if it's plugged into either of those two ports. I have USB3 enabled in my BIOS but do I also need special drivers for Windows?

Yes, theres a USB3.0 driver listed on Asus website.

Just quoting my question for the new page.

Would be best to get an aftermarket cooler.

 

[belvedere]

For the life of me, I can't get my CPU under 50C idle.

So I got sick of the noise my stock HSF produced (for a 965 BE) and put installed a Zalman quiet HSF. The temps went from 35C to 50C idle but knowing I wasn't using the machine all the time, I didn't mind. So I've been using it more regularly and those temps make me nervous. I decided it had to be the Zalman, so I cleaned off the thermal paste and threw on the stock HSF with some arctic sliver. Same temps. WTF? This is all occurring in the same case, with the same number of fans as my old config that previously ran at 35C idle.

The only other thing that's changed is I installed a 6870 (upgraded from a 9800GT), but there's plenty of room for airflow.

 

[blackprophesy]

Not sure if this is the best place to post, but I can't create new threads, and it's "new PC" related.

I have a Asus GTX570 DirectCU II, and have been having major stability issues in DX11 games, most recently with Deus Ex. Someone recommended I up the voltage from the default (1.00) to 1.05. Having done a bit more research Asus put out a BIOS update in July for this very issue, which apparently sets the default voltage to 1.025.

http://www.asus.com/Graphics_Cards/NVIDIA_Series/ENGTX570_DCII2DIS1280MD5/#download

Just wondering how safe updating BIOS is on GPUs? Last thing I want is to kill my card.

 

[scorcho]

Not sure if this is the best place to post, but I can't create new threads, and it's "new PC" related.

I have a Asus GTX570 DirectCU II, and have been having major stability issues in DX11 games, most recently with Deus Ex. Someone recommended I up the voltage from the default (1.00) to 1.05. Having done a bit more research Asus put out a BIOS update in July for this very issue, which apparently sets the default voltage to 1.025.

http://www.asus.com/Graphics_Cards/NVIDIA_Series/ENGTX570_DCII2DIS1280MD5/#download

Just wondering how safe updating BIOS is on GPUs? Last thing I want is to kill my card.

there's always a risk of bricking a device when flashing its BIOS, but i've done it numerous times on my GTX460 to test different default speeds and voltages without harm.

 

[MrOogieBoogie]

Alright guys, important question here.

I've got two HDDs installed in my current PC: one 80 GB drive and one 500 GB drive. I also have Windows 7 Ultimate (64-bit) installed on the 80 GB drive, which is the main drive. Everything else (Steam, music, etc.) is on the 500 GB drive.

Anyway, I'm building a new PC, and I'm only transferring over the 500 GB drive (new case and everything), effectively making it the "primary" drive of my new PC. How would I go about transferring Windows 7 to it? What's the process here? Keep in mind I still have the installation disc at hand. I just don't want to fudge anything up. Thoughts?

 

[mkenyon]

Alright guys, important question here.

I've got two HDDs installed in my current PC: one 80 GB drive and one 500 GB drive. I also have Windows 7 Ultimate (64-bit) installed on the 80 GB drive, which is the main drive. Everything else (Steam, music, etc.) is on the 500 GB drive.

Anyway, I'm building a new PC, and I'm only transferring over the 500 GB drive (new case and everything), effectively making it the "primary" drive of my new PC. How would I go about transferring Windows 7 to it? What's the process here? Keep in mind I still have the installation disc at hand. I just don't want to fudge anything up. Thoughts?

Backup your data, format the drive. Put data back on it once windows is installed.

 

[MrOogieBoogie]

Backup your data, format the drive. Put data back on it once windows is installed.

Okay. But will it be a problem that I've already installed Windows 7 from that same disc on the 80 GB HDD? That's my main concern.

 

[mkenyon]

Okay. But will it be a problem that I've already installed Windows 7 from that same disc on the 80 GB HDD? That's my main concern.

No.

 

[Shao Kahn Brewing a Stew]

Newegg coupon code: COLLEGETOUR11

Get $11 off orders over $55. Mix and match and create multiple orders for massive damage. You can save anywhere from $50-$100 by making multiple orders of product over $55 so yay! Ends September 30th.

 

[MrOogieBoogie]

Newegg coupon code: COLLEGETOUR11

Get $11 off orders over $55. Mix and match and create multiple orders for massive damage. You can save anywhere from $50-$100 by making multiple orders of product over $55 so yay! Ends September 30th.

Fucking shit, and I JUST ordered new PC parts.

 

[Giriath_89]

Fucking shit, and I JUST ordered new PC parts.

Cancel and do it again if they haven't been sent?

 

[Shao Kahn Brewing a Stew]

Fucking shit, and I JUST ordered new PC parts.

I'm... Sorry

Cancel it lol.

I bought a card few weeks ago myself. Sucks but egh, whatever.

 

[Dead Prince]

Newegg coupon code: COLLEGETOUR11

Get $11 off orders over $55. Mix and match and create multiple orders for massive damage. You can save anywhere from $50-$100 by making multiple orders of product over $55 so yay! Ends September 30th.

hmm. might use if i get enough cash for a new graphics card.

EDIT: can't use it? i tried on a power supply. i guess only regular priced items and not with discounted stuff?

EDIT 2: tried on graphics card. no go.

 

[MrOogieBoogie]

Cancel and do it again if they haven't been sent?

I ordered them yesterday evening and already got a tracking number.

The hell, Newegg. I specifically chose the 3-day shipping option! Stop being so goddamn fast!

 

[Shao Kahn Brewing a Stew]

hmm. might use if i get enough cash for a new graphics card.

EDIT: can't use it? i tried on a power supply. i guess only regular priced items and not with discounted stuff?

They just handed out the flyers at my university. Maybe it's new and not active yet (either that or newegg.ca coupons are separate than newegg.com which won't make sense cause that's never been the problem in past).

 

[Venfayth]

Anyone want to take a look at my build list here and double check to make sure it's all compatible and that I'm not overlooking anything silly? I'm pretty sure it all will work, I just have someone else double check as a standard practice.

http://secure.newegg.com/WishList/PublicWishDetail.aspx?WishListNumber=24461488

Also any suggestions/whatnot are appreciated

Edit: OH. Another question I forgot to ask: I like to stream a lot. Does anyone know if getting a 2nd graphics card would make it any easier on my computer to stream games?

 

[Kalnos]

On the U2711... I haven't noticed any noticeable input lag when playing Quake Live or Starcraft 2. I'm not sure that the amount it has is really *that* noticeable in general.

 

[mkenyon]

Anyone want to take a look at my build list here and double check to make sure it's all compatible and that I'm not overlooking anything silly? I'm pretty sure it all will work, I just have someone else double check as a standard practice.

http://secure.newegg.com/WishList/PublicWishDetail.aspx?WishListNumber=24461488

Also any suggestions/whatnot are appreciated

Get an H67/P67 mobo and an i3 2100 listed in the OP. The mobo and proc you are buying are essentially 3 year old parts.

*edit*

Also, get the corsair carbide 400R or the Coolermaster 690II over the Antec. Waaaaaaay better cases.

 

[Tallshortman]

Get an H67/P67 mobo and an i3 2100 listed in the OP. The mobo and proc you are buying are essentially 3 year old parts.

Thubans came out in mid-late 2010... they're not 3 year old parts. That said, I wouldn't recommend getting a thuban unless you're doing heavy multi-threading work which is where their 6 cores shine because for gaming there's comparable performance from other CPUs for less money.

 

[Clydefrog]

Ah, Newegg, you troll well.

 

[mkenyon]

Thubans came out in mid-late 2010... they're not 3 year old parts. That said, I wouldn't recommend getting a thuban unless you're doing heavy multi-threading work which is where their 6 cores shine.

A thuban isn't much different than the Phenom X4's, basically the same architecture. They just stuck 2 more cores on it.

*edit*

This is also coming from a guy with 3 AM3 systems, including my primary gaming rig. Not an AMD hater or anything.

*edit 2*

Alternatively, if you want the X6, you should grab a 990 chipset (AM3+), as that will allow you to do a swap in proc upgrade at a later date.

 

[Venfayth]

Thubans came out in mid-late 2010... they're not 3 year old parts. That said, I wouldn't recommend getting a thuban unless you're doing heavy multi-threading work which is where their 6 cores shine because for gaming there's comparable performance from other CPUs for less money.

Well correct me if I'm wrong here:

I want to be able to do high performance gaming while streaming, preferably at 1080p. Ignoring my network, I'd need a lot of multi-core processing power for that, no?

 

[mkenyon]

Well correct me if I'm wrong here:

I want to be able to do high performance gaming while streaming, preferably at 1080p. Ignoring my network, I'd need a lot of multi-core processing power for that, no?

No, main bottleneck there is actually your HDD setup. You need to be recording on a separate HDD than what you're playing games on.

 

[Tallshortman]

A thuban isn't much different than the Phenom X4's, basically the same architecture. They just stuck 2 more cores on it.

*edit*

This is also coming from a guy with 3 AM3 systems, including my primary gaming rig. Not an AMD hater or anything.

Yeah they're both on K10 architecture but I guess it's just arguing semantics

EDIT: I would say wait for a week or two. Bulldozer is supposed to launch on the 19th of this month and that means you would not be stuck on the AM3 socket which AM3+ is the *future.

 

[Corky]

On the U2711... I haven't noticed any noticeable input lag when playing Quake Live or Starcraft 2. I'm not sure that the amount it has is really *that* noticeable in general.

Oh really? You don't notice anything in Quake? The thing is, I play a fair amount of street fighter, and as silly as this may sound :

My u2311h has an input delay of 10ms, which is roughly 1 frame of delay, and in a game like street fighter that 1f delay can have quite some impact depending on the situation. So I guess the 2711s three times as high inputdelay is most certainly noticeable for me. Though I'm still contemplating it, I mean I could hypothetically have a dedicated SF screen, and play all my other stuff on the u2711.

edit : also, isn't the 2711 quite "old" by now? I mean didn't it roll out almost two years ago? I mean pc tech has a tendency to age like dogs but it would be a shame if I invested my money in the monitor only to have its successor come out soon. Any news on that front?

 

[Venfayth]

No, main bottleneck there is actually your HDD setup. You need to be recording on a separate HDD than what you're playing games on.

My set up never records the files locally, does that matter?

 

[Shao Kahn Brewing a Stew]

I googled and the coupon definitely looks Canada exclusive. Sorry for falling for Newegg's troll, guys.

 

[mkenyon]

My set up never records the files locally, does that matter?

They're still being recorded and streamed from an HDD, even if it doesn't keep them around. The data has to go somewhere.

 

[Venfayth]

They're still being recorded and streamed from an HDD, even if it doesn't keep them around. The data has to go somewhere.

Should I get an SSD then? If I use multiple HDs how would I make sure the streaming software is using the SSD, just install that software on the SSD?

 

[Hazaro]

Well correct me if I'm wrong here:

I want to be able to do high performance gaming while streaming, preferably at 1080p. Ignoring my network, I'd need a lot of multi-core processing power for that, no?

Yeah, but you also want something fast. So 2600K. I'd still wait for BD specs which should be this month.

1000W is super overkill on PSU. A good 750W or 850W will be fine for dual cards. That 1000W I like though.

Replace AS5 with MX-4 or ICD7

 

[mkenyon]

Should I get an SSD then? If I use multiple HDs how would I make sure the streaming software is using the SSD, just install that software on the SSD?

I'd actually recommend against recording to an SSD, that's a lot of data going through it. In the software, you'll choose which drive to write it too. You could just grab a second spinpoint F3 and use it for data/recording.

 

[Kalnos]

edit : also, isn't the 2711 quite "old" by now? I mean didn't it roll out almost two years ago? I mean pc tech has a tendency to age like dogs but it would be a shame if I invested my money in the monitor only to have its successor come out soon. Any news on that front?

Well, I think they just released a U2412M so there will probably be a U2712M but those monitors are more of a budget series I believe. I don't know/haven't heard of any news regarding successor models.

There is probably someone who has the U2711 that's more sensitive to input lag than I am but I haven't noticed any difference myself. From what I have gathered input lag seems to vary from person to person. I would just ask around... Hard Forum has a pretty huge thread on every IPS monitor in existence so I would check their for impressions.

 

[Venfayth]

Yeah, but you also want something fast. So 2600K. I'd still wait for BD specs which should be this month.

1000W is super overkill on PSU. A good 750W or 850W will be fine for dual cards. That 1000W I like though.

Replace AS5 with MX-4 or ICD7

Something wrong with AS5? I've always used it, I'll take your advice and get the MX-4 instead but I'm curious.

How does http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817139010 look for a 750W PSU?

 

[Hazaro]

Something wrong with AS5? I've always used it, I'll take your advice and get the MX-4 instead but I'm curious.

How does http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817139010 look for a 750W PSU?

What I use and would recommend.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817151087

The HX is good too, above average for sure. If you want Corsair you can go with their AX as it's almost identical to the X750.
Running two 6950's on it atm.

If you plan for dual $400+ cards later the 1000W is a good choice, but if you aren't then this is more than enough.

AS5 is good and was king for a long long time, but the market has expanded and we have much better pastes that are also non conductive / capacitive and transfer heat better.
Plus $12 for paste is absurd (Although most are around this now). Ridiculous.

 

[Venfayth]

One more question I have, I've never used anything but the onboard sound card on my systems. I use a USB headset. If I get a sound card:

1. Will it affect the sound quality of my USB headset?

2. Will it make it any more or less confusing trying to set up sound inputs/outputs for streaming software? (such as Adobe FMLE, augmented by virtual audio cables)

 

[ChiefKief]

One more question I have, I've never used anything but the onboard sound card on my systems. I use a USB headset. If I get a sound card:

1. Will it affect the sound quality of my USB headset?

2. Will it make it any more or less confusing trying to set up sound inputs/outputs for streaming software? (such as Adobe FMLE, augmented by virtual audio cables)

Doesn't the USB headset just use the onboard audio? Wouldn't a sound card be irrelevant In headset setup?

 

[Venfayth]

Doesn't the USB headset just use the onboard audio? Wouldn't a sound card be irrelevant In headset setup?

That's what I thought, I just wanted to make sure