MrOogieBoogie
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How can I easily transfer all my Steam games to another HDD? Is it a matter of simply copying and pasting the entire folder?
"I need a New PC!" 2011 Thread of reading the OP. Seriously. [Part 2]
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1. I do not believe so. I think that the USB includes its own thing.Acullis said:
2. Auto detect will bone you. Nightmare using USB mic until some software got updated. Can't comment on FMLE since I haven't used it in a long time, but I don't think you'll run into a problem there, especially if you are can use virtual audio cables. If it goes well you should just be able to select the source.
All the cool kids are using XSplit until the free beta trial period is over, then everyone goes back to FMLE. :[
Ctrl F steam on the first page.MrOogieBoogie said:
Corky said:
Just a note: if 1 frame of delay (which is actually 16.67ms) is a big deal, then you should definitely be playing with vsync off. Triple buffered vsync is going to introduce even more delay than double buffered vsync (assuming you're maintaining 60fps). The delay in Streetfighter IV with vsync on is very noticeable, especially when performing combos. Sadly, the game looks awful with tearing. I wonder if there's a way to force double buffering instead of triple buffering to reduce the vsynced delay...
In terms of numbers, I believe double buffered vsync can add anywhere up to 16.67ms of lag, and triple buffered vsync is going to add an additional frame of lag to that, bringing it up to 33.33ms. Combine that with your 10-20ms monitor input lag, and it's going to feel noticeable.
TheExodu5 said:
Yea I've noticed that when playing, and just like you say the tearing is godawful. With that said I think I'm going to go for the monitor anyway, simply because it feels like it'll be the part of my pc that I won't be needing to upgrade for a long time. Something tells me 2560x isn't going to be mainstream for a long time.
It's funny, reading the Anandtech triple buffering article, I'm convinced they have it wrong:
Triple buffering definitely adds more input lag than double-buffering. This is easy to see in Portal 2, where you have the option to switch in between double-buffering and triple-buffering in game. Perhaps it depends on the game. I'm under the impression that rather than having two parallel back buffers, they're arranged as a FIFO queue, where the output frame is guaranteed to be at least one frame behind the currently rendered frame.
Triple buffering definitely adds more input lag than double-buffering. This is easy to see in Portal 2, where you have the option to switch in between double-buffering and triple-buffering in game. Perhaps it depends on the game. I'm under the impression that rather than having two parallel back buffers, they're arranged as a FIFO queue, where the output frame is guaranteed to be at least one frame behind the currently rendered frame.
Corky said:
That's when it's going to be most desirable. Double buffered vsync is absolutely not an option if you can't maintain 60fps, as you'll be dropping to 30fps, which will increase lag by a lot more than the added frame buffer.
When people speak of the input lag related benefit of triple buffering vsync, this is when it would apply. Many people on here just mistakenly assume those benefits will persist when rendering at a constant 60fps (hence my tag
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I love my u2711, granted it isn't perfect and it isn't for everyone. I got it for half the price on craigslist so that certainly made the purchase easier to swallow. Perhaps you shouldn't get it since you play SF. I've been playing a bunch of TF2 lately and I don't have any discernable trouble with monitor latency, granted TF2 is not quake or fighter fast.
Also, there should be no u2712(m). The u2711 was released in 2010 and is hardly an old panel. Dell refreshed the u2x10, but those monitors were released in 2009 and the new refresh is using cheaper e-IPS panels. Also you are mistaken about panel technology. A 2 year old panel is not deprecated like a 2 year old graphics processor. In theory LCD has room for maturity, but don't expect any real improvements on IPS specs. These things move at a slow clip. Right now there seems to be a shift towards less costly IPS panel manufacturing at the expense of picture quality.
Basically put: IPS-LCD is a pretty mature technology that isn't seeing rapid advancement. Good IPS panels from a few years ago are good IPS panels today. There have been a shift in manufacturing from high cost, high quality IPS panels to lower cost, relatively lower quality (still better picture quality than TN) IPS panels. Expect the majority of IPS panels going forward to be lower cost panels.
TheExodu5 said:
Interesting, the more you know. Cheers
Niblet said:
Thank you very much for the input, informative and puts some of my fears to rest. Yes I do realize now that expecting SF to run great seem to be out of the question but aslong as it doesn't affect other "regular" games then by all means I'll have a dedicated SF setup.
Dead Prince
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obvious thing to do is buy me a power supply and graphics card to make up for it ;P jk. i'll google for other codes or just wait for some random sale to happen.shagg_187 said:
Ok guys I bought most of my PC today (but I forgot the thermal paste -___________-). Only thing I lack is the GFX card because they didn't have MSI 580's.
Can you please tell me what are the best brands and models of 580? Does the Gigabyte triple fan one holds up? What about ASUS?
Thanks
So happeh 
Can you please tell me what are the best brands and models of 580? Does the Gigabyte triple fan one holds up? What about ASUS?
Thanks
So happeh Corky said:
I'd look for some way to test out an IPS panel and try with games you typically play and decide for yourself that way. It seems like a YMMV thing from what I read. I have no issues, but I read some people do notice it to an extent. If at all possible, get an IPS panel from a store with a no hassle return policy. Try the monitor out for a week or so and return it. If you like it, then search for the best deal on that monitor.
Are you fixed on 27 inches at 2560x1440? It is gorgeous, to be sure, but not without its quirks (the density of the pixels per inch being the biggest) 24 inches at 1920x1080 is still very nice and it gives you more purchasing options.
Honestly, I should have gotten a 24", but I got a 27 for cheap on CL, so you won't ever hear me complain about this beauty.
Niblet said:
I'm actually rolling a Dell u2311 IPS panel right now and I looooooooove it, but I think it's rather small
and I'd love to dip my foot in the 2560x1440 market. Also I was under the impression that the 2711s pixel density actually helped it's cause from a gaming viewpoint? ( I realize it could make reading certain texts more difficult if that's your job and all )Corky said:I'm actually rolling a Dell u2311 IPS panel right now and I looooooooove it, but I think it's rather small
Yeah the text is the problem. It causes me to have to use the zoom in feature when I'm writing. But for gaming, it is amaaaaaazing, assuming you have a card that can drive it.
I'd go back to TN if I had to, but I wouldn't be happy about it.
Niblet said:
Yeah I figured as much, then again if I want to do some typing I think I'd rather do it on my laptop.
Well, I have two overclocked 560 tis, and this was a dilemma for me whether or not my pc could actually run games at that res. I've been a zombie the past few days just reading articles after articles and it doesn't seem like the 1gb vram is going to bite me in the ass unless I crank up the AA too much in a particular game.
Hi,
My motherboard burnt a couple of weeks ago so I have been following this thread a lot to get my new desktop.
Today I got my new ssd (vertex 3 mas iops 120 gb) and I learnt that u can't upgrade windows 7 from 32 bits to 64 bits ( I only have a student deal download of 64 bits) but apparently u can do it if u have a physical copy of windows 7 ( good thing I also ordered windows 7 in dvd format so I'll try again as soon as I receive my physical copy of windows). In the meantime, I do want to format my ssd and start using it as a primary drive. I read the opening thread and will put the options u mentionned about ssd and will be doing that. My question is about the paritition. When I go to disk manager, there are two options to create teh partition:
-mbr
-gpt
I used to always go mbr for my old school hdds as I believe they are the most compatible but for the sdd should I go gpt ? Are there any material performance gain with that ?
( my motherboard is the p67 extreme4 you recommended in this thread and my cpu is also the recommended i5 2500 k)
My motherboard burnt a couple of weeks ago so I have been following this thread a lot to get my new desktop.
Today I got my new ssd (vertex 3 mas iops 120 gb) and I learnt that u can't upgrade windows 7 from 32 bits to 64 bits ( I only have a student deal download of 64 bits) but apparently u can do it if u have a physical copy of windows 7 ( good thing I also ordered windows 7 in dvd format so I'll try again as soon as I receive my physical copy of windows). In the meantime, I do want to format my ssd and start using it as a primary drive. I read the opening thread and will put the options u mentionned about ssd and will be doing that. My question is about the paritition. When I go to disk manager, there are two options to create teh partition:
-mbr
-gpt
I used to always go mbr for my old school hdds as I believe they are the most compatible but for the sdd should I go gpt ? Are there any material performance gain with that ?
( my motherboard is the p67 extreme4 you recommended in this thread and my cpu is also the recommended i5 2500 k)
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chaosblade
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I'd been trying to remember what it was called, thanks for posting that. Will use that when I upgrade and use my new SSD. Would use it now, but I don't really have any way to mount it in my caseDarkUSS said:
And AMD needs to get it together. Somebody has to be in the hot seat right now, I don't see how management and investors can be pleased with what's going on. Looks like AMD is going to remain a generation behind yet again. Can't see Zambezi matching Ivy Bridge.
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MrOogieBoogie said:
Easy peasy. I moved my Steam games to my new PC using a external HDD, and it worked brilliantly. After moving them across, I opened up Steam and "installed" them, but it only took a few seconds for Steam to do so. (In a few cases there were a few missing bits which Steam downloaded).
Tell me about it. It's going to be AM3 compatible! Wait just kidding. No wait, it'll work on 890fx boards! (so i purchase a crosshair iv) Wait, it'll only work on some 890fx boards. No wait, it won't work on any unless they have the AM3+ socket insatlled on them. Here come 990fx boards, be ready for bulldozer! (6 months later) So.. about that Zambezi, we're working on it.TheExodu5 said:
RAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAGE!
Hmm.. I dunno if kotaku is still blacklisted ( it wasn't then it was for a bit then it wasn't I think, haven't been on neogaf for a while so I am not sure what the current status is?) but I just read this article there:
http://kotaku.com/5837957/faux-futurists-want-to-keep-pc-gaming-in-the-past
And I strongly disagree with it. I figured most people in this thread would as well ?
http://kotaku.com/5837957/faux-futurists-want-to-keep-pc-gaming-in-the-past
And I strongly disagree with it. I figured most people in this thread would as well ?
Silly article with a divisive premise to get attention/hits/$. Standardization already occurs in architecture, you don't need it with hardware. That's on the hardware manufacturers to get drivers to optimize the games.Boulayman said:
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The whole point of the PC is that it's open. That's true in hardware, software, games, input devices, displays, and networking tools. They did standardize the Gaming PC, it's called PS3 and X-Box. To have standardized hardware would turn it into a console. If you want that standardization to be something devs bank on, you need standardized software/OS as well. This guy is on crack.
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TheExodu5 said:
I think this might depend on the Mobo manufacturers as much as intel. The AsRock Extreme4 Gen3 is the only board I've seen under $200 that's supposedly Ivy Bridge ready.
Probably spelled it wrong. I'm intending to say whore. And that last bit about the bottle I think is a reference to a commercial (or movie) that was shown there quite some time ago. I haven't kept up with the people I know is Sweden in awhileWazzim said:
edit: I did watch the Girl with the Dragon Tattoo though... so I'm honorary right?!
RukusProvider said:
All of Gigabyte's series 6 boards are supposed to be compatible with any Ivy Bridge and PCIe Gen 3.
http://www.gigabyte.us/press-center/news-page.aspx?nid=1048
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Dell UltraSharp 23'' U2311H turned out to be good stuff. It's a bit too big for my distance and you do notice some blur in games like Shatter but it's very nice for a LCD-screen. Well worth the asking price.
One thing though, does anyone know where I can find good calibration settings for it? Or maybe you can share your own? It's nice out of the box on "standard" but I'd like to try some other stuff out.
One thing though, does anyone know where I can find good calibration settings for it? Or maybe you can share your own? It's nice out of the box on "standard" but I'd like to try some other stuff out.
Boulayman said:
Answering my own question, if someone else ends up in the same situation, go with gpt, I went with mbr and windows told me it couldn't install itself on a mbr drive is the mb was uefi ( dun understand the logic but wtv) so now I have to recreate it with gpt
Edit: nvm, bit of a mfuck as now it's telling me that it can't be installed on a gpt either lol
Edit2: just leave the space unallocated and let windows 7 64 bit instal do whatever it wants with the drive. Worked for me
Danne-Danger said:
http://www.tftcentral.co.uk/articles/icc_profiles.htm
Be aware that it won't be as great as one tailored to your actual monitor, but it should be better than stock. I use their u2711 profile and I think its good enough.
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