"I need a New PC!" 2011 Thread of reading the OP. Seriously. [Part 2]
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MrOogieBoogie
BioShock Infinite is like playing some homeless guy's vivid imagination
I have a Rosewill Challenger case, which comes with three fans: one on the top, one on the back, and one in the front.
I built my PC about two weeks ago, but now I've got this weird issue where the top fan has inexplicably become very loud. It's connected to the PSU, so I'm not sure how to monitor its speed, but I was wondering what the cause for this may be. This only happened a couple days ago for the first time out of the blue and has persisted since. I'm actually thinking about just disconnecting that particular fan all together, but I don't know how recommended or not that is.
I built my PC about two weeks ago, but now I've got this weird issue where the top fan has inexplicably become very loud. It's connected to the PSU, so I'm not sure how to monitor its speed, but I was wondering what the cause for this may be. This only happened a couple days ago for the first time out of the blue and has persisted since. I'm actually thinking about just disconnecting that particular fan all together, but I don't know how recommended or not that is.
I'm looking to build/upgrade a gaming PC. I'm not sure if I should upgrade the video card now, and then purchase mobo, RAM, CPU, and HDD later -OR- wait and upgrade everything at once. Let's say I can spend max $250 this month, with another $600 coming in the next two months.
Current Specs
CPU: Core2Duo E6600 @ 2.4GHz
RAM: 3GB DDR2 (3x1)
Motherboard: ASUS P5N-E (Socket 775)
GPU: 9600 GSO (512MB)
If I got a 6950 or a 560Ti, would I see a big performance boost, or would the CPU be so much of a bottleneck that it wouldn't make a big difference. I'd be playing games like Crysis, Metro, Battlefield 3, Skyrim, etc. at 1280x1024.
I think the answer is get the video card, but maybe I'm wrong. What say ye, GAF?
Current Specs
CPU: Core2Duo E6600 @ 2.4GHz
RAM: 3GB DDR2 (3x1)
Motherboard: ASUS P5N-E (Socket 775)
GPU: 9600 GSO (512MB)
If I got a 6950 or a 560Ti, would I see a big performance boost, or would the CPU be so much of a bottleneck that it wouldn't make a big difference. I'd be playing games like Crysis, Metro, Battlefield 3, Skyrim, etc. at 1280x1024.
I think the answer is get the video card, but maybe I'm wrong. What say ye, GAF?
ColonialRaptor
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Heysoos said:Sorry, I closed it up. I have a 7:45 class tomorrow so I'm just going to leave it until tomorrow after my classes. Thanks for your help though, really appreciate it.The owner of the video also responded on his method to slide it in, hopefully that will work tomorrow if not, I'll post here again and see what happens.
If I'm not in this thread or not answering, PM me or look for me on Steam, I'll be able to help.
Just build my first PC since high school and all is well!
I wanted to know if anyone could clue me in regarding sound. I bought a motherboard that has Realtek onboard sound, as well a Xonar DG 5.1 sound card. I was hoping to get 5.1 sound in games through the Xonar, but I've realized I can't do that with an optical cable as it doesn't have Dolby Digital Live. Luckily, the Realtek has Dolby Digital Live.
Which would net me overall better sound quality, considering that both will end up as 5.1 channels: my onboard sound with Dolby Digital Live through an optical connection or simply my $30 dedicated sound card through analog connections?
I wanted to know if anyone could clue me in regarding sound. I bought a motherboard that has Realtek onboard sound, as well a Xonar DG 5.1 sound card. I was hoping to get 5.1 sound in games through the Xonar, but I've realized I can't do that with an optical cable as it doesn't have Dolby Digital Live. Luckily, the Realtek has Dolby Digital Live.
Which would net me overall better sound quality, considering that both will end up as 5.1 channels: my onboard sound with Dolby Digital Live through an optical connection or simply my $30 dedicated sound card through analog connections?
n0n44m said:well not for GPUs anyway. (well there are but they are terrible)
Corsair H100 is the only all in 1 I would consider for CPU, else you're better off with a CM212/Mugen2or3/NoctuaDH14
there are some beginner kits for do it yourself watercooling by EK and XSPC, and if you're willing to install those yourself it shouldn't be that hard to add two GPU blocks to them.
but then you would need more radiator space probably, maybe a better pump, and before you know it you're reading and comparing anyway so you just might as well select all components yourself then
I had a Mugen 2 / Accelero setup before and that is more than adequate in terms of cooling and silence. All the rest is just hobby
Would it be too much of a bother to list your components? I can work it off that.
Duxxy3
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Worth upgrading from a gtx 470 to a gtx 560ti? Specifically to reduce the heat coming out of this thing. The room has fairly poor circulation and it can get 10 to 15 degrees warmer than the rest of the house when a game is played.
The 470 is by far the hottest part of my setup - averaging 92 celcius using furmark. I know the card is designed to take that much heat, but it sucks to be in the same room.
The 470 is by far the hottest part of my setup - averaging 92 celcius using furmark. I know the card is designed to take that much heat, but it sucks to be in the same room.
iSurvivedTheOutage
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So yeah newegg has Zotac 570 on shellshocker...lets see how this goes...
Please be wrong.
Rabid Wolverine said:
Please be wrong.
What could be a possible explanation for my PC suddenly deciding to run like shit in games? Framerates are around 50-75% of what they should be, and they go up and down a lot making things chug even worse.
First though was AMD cool and quiet crap had somehow turned back on and slowed my CPU way down, but CPU speeds are all normal.
So I did the performance check thing in W7 (only thing I can think of to check GPU compared to how it was when all good) and my rating went up, not even staying where it was so can't be that.
Temps for everything are normal. Only change I've made in any way between the time when it ran fine and running badly is a MSE scan picked up a couple java exploit things and removed them.
First though was AMD cool and quiet crap had somehow turned back on and slowed my CPU way down, but CPU speeds are all normal.
So I did the performance check thing in W7 (only thing I can think of to check GPU compared to how it was when all good) and my rating went up, not even staying where it was so can't be that.
Temps for everything are normal. Only change I've made in any way between the time when it ran fine and running badly is a MSE scan picked up a couple java exploit things and removed them.
JayDub said:Would it be too much of a bother to list your components? I can work it off that.
the water stuff? here's a list
if you want something quick and reliable however (not keeping cost in mind, just simplicity)
Pump - Swiftech/Laing D5
Blocks - for 580 only fullcover blocks, whatever you can get from Aquacomputer, Watercool.de, Swiftech or EK (Copper versions only! no nickel cause of issues)
CPU block (?) - EK Supreme Copper is widely available, but any other popular block will do as well
radiators - I'd say at least 360 XSPC RX model or multiple smaller ones if a large one doesn't fit .. there are also ways to attach larger ones to the back for instance
reservoir - whatever you like the looks of, personally I went bay because it looks nice imho and it's milled from acetal so more reliable than the plastic tubes
fittings - I like my compression fittings, should guarantee absolute safety when using the correct size tube
Jtrizzy said:
seems like it's disabled when using the motherboard connection?
Corky said:
not in roomtemps ofcourse as a 470 consumes 60 Watt more on the Anandtech Bench ... equivalent of a (oldskool) light bulb I'd say
lowrider007
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Have just finished upgrading my system with the following components, dam that 'Whip 'em out, boys' thread!
I upgraded from a Q9550 with 4gb ddr2 so not sure if I'm going to see a massive improvement or not, just installing W7 Pro 64bit now.
- Intel Core i5-2500K 3.30GHz (Sandybridge) Socket LGA1155 Processor
- Asus P8Z68-V Intel Z68 (Socket 1155) DDR3 Motherboard
- Corsair Vengeance Blue 8GB (2x4GB) DDR3 PC3-12800C9 1600MHz Dual Channel Kit
I upgraded from a Q9550 with 4gb ddr2 so not sure if I'm going to see a massive improvement or not, just installing W7 Pro 64bit now.
lowrider007
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dragonlife
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Quick question. What's that Nvidia program that lets me see information about my GPU's temp and so on?
lowrider007
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dragonlife said:
Download msi afterburner.
lowrider007
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Corky said:
Everybody in my circle uses afterburner but I'll try Nvidia Inspector and see what's it's like.
Can you create fan control curves in nvidia inspector?, it's somthing I really like in afterburner.
Sarcasm said:
Recent experiences.
http://www.ebuyer.com/220595-netgear-wireless-n-universal-range-extender-wn2000rpt-100uks - Setting them up made me want to kill myself.
http://www.ebuyer.com/168753-edimax-wireless-n300-range-extender-access-point-ew-7416apn - 10 minutes to set it up get it working right.
lowrider007
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Appleman said:
Will do mate, I ran my 9550 @ 3.6 most of the time, once my new rig is all set-up I intent to clock it to around 4.2 or so, will see how it goes.
Smokey said:No, you're good. Just won't be able to add another 590 in the future with that PSU.
It was brought to my attention in the benchmark thread that my RAM is running slower than it should be? How can I go about fixing this and making sure it's running correctly?
My RAM is rated @ 1600. Shouldn't it read 800mhz?
Smokey, sounds like you have your memory settings/timings on auto in the BIOS. Configure your memory manually, and just choose DD3-1600 with whatever timings your memory can handle.
Edit: Not sure which mobo you have, but on mine I can just choose DD3-1600 and leave the timings on auto (unless you want to change those as well).
umm, is there any way of enabling the motherboard integrated card and a pci card at the same time?
I would like to do some crunching with gpu and thougth that there was maybe a way to do it?
I got to initiate the integrated card first on the bios, but it won't get any signal out, so I guess is impossible.
I would like to do some crunching with gpu and thougth that there was maybe a way to do it?
I got to initiate the integrated card first on the bios, but it won't get any signal out, so I guess is impossible.
dragonlife
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That's the one I remember seeing. Thank you.Corky said:
razgriz417
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Phandy said:
Haha, I'm planning to upgrade from a e8400 @ 3.0ghz and eVGA 750i FTW to those exact parts. If you have a Microcenter around you there's a combo deal for i5 2500k & P8Z68-V for $319.99
I have a question for you guys, I plan to eventually have a zotac amp! gtx580 1.5gb (got this for ~$330 AR & tax & 20% off coupon
), 1 ssd boot drive, 1 tb games/programs drive, 2 media drives in raid, 1 dvd & 1 bluray drive. The gpu recommends a 600w PSU, but with all my components, what size PSU should I be shooting for? I don't plan to SLI 580s later on but would like to try my hand at OCing in the future.Pocks said:
Doesn't look like anyone responded to you. Yes, you'll see a significant upgrade. You'll definitely be CPU bottlenecked but you'll see a jump.
Lonely1 said:
I was in a similar boat. i5 2500k w/ a GTX 260. I didn't want to spend any money with the new GPUs right around the corner but I picked up a GTX 460 for $100 which has really helped (DirectX11 support and a faster speed). The 280 is a better card than the 260 by a pretty big margin though. You are in a better position. I would personally wait if you can stand it (I had a tough time coming to grips with a sub par Skyrim so much so that I was going to wait to buy the game until I got a new card).
razgriz417 said:Haha, I'm planning to upgrade from a e8400 @ 3.0ghz and eVGA 750i FTW to those exact parts. If you have a Microcenter around you there's a combo deal for i5 2500k & P8Z68-V for $319.99
I have a question for you guys, I plan to eventually have a zotac amp! gtx580 1.5gb (got this for ~$330 AR & tax & 20% off coupon
A good 600-650w PSU will be enough if you don't plant to SLI.
razgriz417
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Smokey said:
Great thanks Smokey!
razgriz417
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Sarcasm said:
I'm building my new rig within next month or so, so many good pc games coming out this fall. If you can wait, you could wait until the new ivybridge and gpus come out and hope for a price drop on current parts.
lowrider007
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Do we know yet if the Ivy Bridges cpu's will be compatible with z68 boards?
AndyMoogle
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Is CoreTemp more accurate than Hardware Monitor for CPU temp readings?
Update on my computer situation:
I disconnected everything and started over from scratch. I plugged in only the motherboard, RAM, PSU, case fans, and processor/fan and it actually started up. The processor fan was working, and I got both LEDs on the motherboard to turn on. The weird part is that the case fans didn't turn on at all. The other weird thing is that I tried to plug in my HD, but then the computer wouldn't run again until after I unplugged the HD from the PSU and even unplugged the SATA cord from the motherboard.
Is this enough information for someone to figure out what I need to do?
I disconnected everything and started over from scratch. I plugged in only the motherboard, RAM, PSU, case fans, and processor/fan and it actually started up. The processor fan was working, and I got both LEDs on the motherboard to turn on. The weird part is that the case fans didn't turn on at all. The other weird thing is that I tried to plug in my HD, but then the computer wouldn't run again until after I unplugged the HD from the PSU and even unplugged the SATA cord from the motherboard.
Is this enough information for someone to figure out what I need to do?
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