"I need a New PC!" 2011 Thread of reading the OP. Seriously. [Part 2]

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Syphon Filter said:
You know when you reformat there is a file made called windows.old? Is their a way to reformat but for it not to create that folder?

Windows.old only is there if you upgrade or install a new instance of Windows to a partition that already has an install of Windows on it.
 
It's incredible...again, when I'm ready to order from NewEgg.ca, I double check my list one last time and surprise, my video card is out of stock, AGAIN. It's like they don't want me to order. RAGE.......
 
gokieks said:
Windows.old only is there if you upgrade or install a new instance of Windows to a partition that already has an install of Windows on it.
So i need to delete the partition to not have the file? I didn't see the option.
 
Haf X case owners.

Have you installed the GPU shroud for additional cooling? If so, what fan did you buy and how well did it work?

Also, if you use the GPU support bracket, you can't use the side fan?
 
Syphon Filter said:
So i need to delete the partition to not have the file? I didn't see the option.

What're you using to do the formatting? There should be nothing on the partition, period, if you've re-formatted it, regardless of whether you've deleted the partition and then recreated it.
 
RukusProvider said:
Haf X case owners.

Have you installed the GPU shroud for additional cooling? If so, what fan did you buy and how well did it work?

Also, if you use the GPU support bracket, you can't use the side fan?
Mine was already installed in the side panel with a fan, so I'm currently just using it stock. Haven't really done any GPU OC stress testing yet as I've been busy on the CPU side, so I can't comment on temps.
 
XiaNaphryz said:
Mine was already installed in the side panel with a fan, so I'm currently just using it stock. Haven't really done any GPU OC stress testing yet as I've been busy on the CPU side, so I can't comment on temps.

Wow, yours came like that? Mine had no fan installed.
 
GAF, are RAM heatsinks even that important?

I'm planning to downgrade my planned upgrade from GSkill Snipers to GSkill Value so I can buy an i5-2400 instead of an i3-2100.

I live in a tropical country. My Sapphire HD5850 Xtreme (factory OC'd) gets up to 58c on load (TF2), while my old 9600GT is only up to 52c on load last summer.
 
RukusProvider said:
Wow, yours came like that? Mine had no fan installed.
You're talking about the little extra bit that installs in the side panel to direct air towards the GPU, right?
 
XiaNaphryz said:
You're talking about the little extra bit that installs in the side panel to direct air towards the GPU, right?

This piece:

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XiaNaphryz said:
Ah, the piece on the right. I don't have it installed - I have the left piece installed though over the PSU.

Yeah, that's just to hide the cables. At the end of this piece, you can add a fan pushing air into the GPU.
 
So excited! Just ordered 2 gtx560Ti cards. One is for me (upgrading from an hd4850) and the other is for my brother (upgrading from an 8800gt)
Was just wondering if there was any software that comes recommended to completely clean our systems from their old graphic card software to make sure the new stuff works as it should?
 
chrisisawesome said:
So excited! Just ordered 2 gtx560Ti cards. One is for me (upgrading from an hd4850) and the other is for my brother (upgrading from an 8800gt)
Was just wondering if there was any software that comes recommended to completely clean our systems from their old graphic card software to make sure the new stuff works as it should?

Pretty sure your brother will be fine since he has nvidia drivers. I have only ever used Nvidia, and i never deleted old drivers. For you AMD drivers, i dont know.
 
So my computer won't turn on... it starts booting for 5-10 seconds then powers off. The most progress it has made is the "windows starting up..." screen. If I press delete to enter setup, it says something along the "overclocking or overvoltage"... I haven't attempted overclocking, btw.

Any idea what is going on? Overheating? Power supply has failed? If so, what parts would people recommend to fix this?

I have an Intel Q9550, ATI HD 5770, 8GB DDR2 RAM. I just use the stock Intel cooler.
 
RukusProvider said:
Haf X case owners.

Have you installed the GPU shroud for additional cooling? If so, what fan did you buy and how well did it work?

Also, if you use the GPU support bracket, you can't use the side fan?

I'm using the GPU shroud and fits with a 120mm fan, I'm also using the 200mm side fan as well. Works very well IMO.
 
Just placed an order for the das keyboard with the blue cherry mx loud-as-crap switches. Will post pics when it arrives, although I'm sure most of you guys don't really care.
 
I H8 Memes said:
How about the sound?

You can't really beat either pair for $20. It's been a while since I was addicted to head-fi, but I don't remember there being a huge difference between the two. That is the place to check though.


Mistle said:
So my computer won't turn on... it starts booting for 5-10 seconds then powers off. The most progress it has made is the "windows starting up..." screen. If I press delete to enter setup, it says something along the "overclocking or overvoltage"... I haven't attempted overclocking, btw.

Any idea what is going on? Overheating? Power supply has failed? If so, what parts would people recommend to fix this?

I have an Intel Q9550, ATI HD 5770, 8GB DDR2 RAM. I just use the stock Intel cooler.

So you can get into the BIOS? If so, try to find a listing for temperature. If it's really high, it could point to dried up thermal paste, or a mis-aligned heatsink.
 
Okay so I'm on a i5 2500k that's over clocked to 4.5 ghz. Tinkered with CPU voltage all day along with CPU ID,real temp and prime 95 till I got to what I thought was a suitable voltage of 1.3150. Tested it with prime 95 and all tests passed, but the only problem is that my computer has been randomly freezing and restarting for the past day. Any suggestions on what I should do?

Oh yeah I'm also using a Asus P8P67 Pro Motherboard if that helps.
 
grkazan12 said:
Okay so I'm on a i5 2500k that's over clocked to 4.5 ghz. Tinkered with CPU voltage all day along with CPU ID,real temp and prime 95 till I got to what I thought was a suitable voltage of 1.3150. Tested it with prime 95 and all tests passed, but the only problem is that my computer has been randomly freezing and restarting for the past day. Any suggestions on what I should do?

Oh yeah I'm also using a Asus P8P67 Pro Motherboard if that helps.
More voltage... even though it's stable under load, voltage drops too much on idle.

GAF, are RAM heatsinks even that important?

I'm planning to downgrade my planned upgrade from GSkill Snipers to GSkill Value so I can buy an i5-2400 instead of an i3-2100.

I live in a tropical country. My Sapphire HD5850 Xtreme (factory OC'd) gets up to 58c on load (TF2), while my old 9600GT is only up to 52c on load last summer.

No they're just for show. Value ram will work fine, especially because memory overclocking is hardly important with sandy bridge CPUs so any DDR 1333 or higher will work fine
 
I already have my PC built I just have a quick question about a monitor.

Right now I have a 30 inch dell, it's starting to slowly die and I'm tired of having to blow money on vid cards to run 2560x1600 for newer games.

I'm thinking of picking up a 22 or 24 inch monitor and running both. I'd have one screen resolution at around 1080 and the other at 2560x1600.

I haven't used dual monitors for gaming before. Can I run a game on the smaller monitor fullscreen or will it have to be windowed mode and moved over there? If it runs fullscreen does the other monitor turn off or does the desktop stay open on it?
 
grkazan12 said:
Okay so I'm on a i5 2500k that's over clocked to 4.5 ghz. Tinkered with CPU voltage all day along with CPU ID,real temp and prime 95 till I got to what I thought was a suitable voltage of 1.3150. Tested it with prime 95 and all tests passed, but the only problem is that my computer has been randomly freezing and restarting for the past day. Any suggestions on what I should do?

Oh yeah I'm also using a Asus P8P67 Pro Motherboard if that helps.
How long did you run Prime95 for? I would run at least for 3-4 hours. If it passes, the voltage under idle maybe too low. Disable or lower settings that add a certain % to your total voltage, example Internal CPU PLL, LLC, phase control and etc. Note: Lowering these settings will also lower your max voltage, and thus, you need to make it up by increasing the offset amount or the manually amount.

Personally, if you are not going for 4.8GHz or above overclock, I would set those % increase settings to lowest or default. Just, control voltage using the offset. Why overclock / stress another component when it's not needed.
 
Sooo, I need a cpu cooler for my htpc.
Case is a Thermaltake DH101 and cpu is a Core i5.
I bought the Cooler Master Hyper + 212 because I read that it fitted, but apparently it does not and I need a "low profile" cooler? Damn, money wasted... Fuck! Will at least the Hyper one be compatible with a new gen of cpu, next round?

Anyway, I'm now looking for a new Low Profile cooler, I might just do a very mild OC on my core i5 (bringing it to 3,2Ghz).

I'd like to stay below €40 if possible.
Which one's the best between these (or just help me out with one that also has a silent fan):

http://www.eprice.it/dissipatori-cpu-ZALMAN/d-2585540
http://www.eprice.it/dissipatori-cpu-SCYTHE/d-2182516
http://www.eprice.it/dissipatori-cpu-ARCTIC COOLING/d-2386223
http://www.eprice.it/dissipatori-cpu-SCYTHE/d-3546464
http://www.eprice.it/dissipatori-cpu-THERMALTAKE/d-2606029
http://www.eprice.it/dissipatori-cpu-THERMALRIGHT/d-2385201
http://www.eprice.it/dissipatori-cpu-NEXUS/d-2207519
 
AppleSmack said:
Guys do you consider an upgrade from 4gb to 6gb RAM and from a GTX 460 to a GTX 560 worth the money?
Not much of one, no. 4GB->6GB would allow you to, say, leave a few apps (Chrome, etc) open when opening a rather demanding PC game without any performance loss, and the 460 to 560 is a mild bump in speed at nearly all resolutions and detail settings, but to spend full retail price on this stuff? Naw. I suggest you hold out for the next cycle of nVidia cards to come along. 4GB and a 460 will still take you pretty far if you're running one 24" monitor or less and aren't trying to multitask half the apps in your Start Menu.

'Course, if you are, might as well go to 8GB instead of 6GB...
 
foogles said:
Not much of one, no. 4GB->6GB would allow you to, say, leave a few apps (Chrome, etc) open when opening a rather demanding PC game without any performance loss, and the 460 to 560 is a mild bump in speed at nearly all resolutions and detail settings, but to spend full retail price on this stuff? Naw. I suggest you hold out for the next cycle of nVidia cards to come along. 4GB and a 460 will still take you pretty far if you're running one 24" monitor or less and aren't trying to multitask half the apps in your Start Menu.

'Course, if you are, might as well go to 8GB instead of 6GB...

Are there rumblings as to when the new gen of cards will be coming out? Maybe a time frame, and if the specs will be much much better?
 
Syphon Filter said:


Can someone tell me how these temps are? where it says cputin,60c seems a bit high?[/QUOTE]
I wouldn't worry about that info. Not sure where that info is coming from and it seems to be buggy. More important is what your CPU core temps are.
 
Sooo, I need a cpu cooler for my htpc.
Case is a Thermaltake DH101 and cpu is a Core i5.
I bought the Cooler Master Hyper + 212 because I read that it fitted, but apparently it does not and I need a "low profile" cooler? Damn, money wasted... Fuck! Will at least the Hyper one be compatible with a new gen of cpu, next round?

Anyway, I'm now looking for a new Low Profile cooler, I might just do a very mild OC on my core i5 (bringing it to 3,2Ghz).

I'd like to stay below €40 if possible.
Which one's the best between these (or just help me out with one that also has a silent fan):

http://www.eprice.it/dissipatori-cpu-ZALMAN/d-2585540
http://www.eprice.it/dissipatori-cpu-SCYTHE/d-2182516
http://www.eprice.it/dissipatori-cpu...LING/d-2386223
http://www.eprice.it/dissipatori-cpu-SCYTHE/d-3546464
http://www.eprice.it/dissipatori-cpu...TAKE/d-2606029
http://www.eprice.it/dissipatori-cpu...IGHT/d-2385201
http://www.eprice.it/dissipatori-cpu-NEXUS/d-2207519

Anybody?
Sorry for the bump, hopefully I'm not too annoying... it's just that I'd like to be able to use this computer again, soon

I also wanted to ask, maybe you guys can help me out here, if it is possible to swap i5's stock fan and replace it with a better and more silent one and, in case that's possible, how easy would that be... Maybe you guys have also a tip or two on which fan would be a good fit to out in there.
 
chrisisawesome said:
Are there rumblings as to when the new gen of cards will be coming out? Maybe a time frame, and if the specs will be much much better?
Early next year, it seems, probably Jan-March. AMD was supposed to have them out by the end of the year but I think they got delayed. NVidia has had theirs planned for early next year for a while.

Dash Kappei said:
Anybody?
Sorry for the bump, hopefully I'm not too annoying... it's just that I'd like to be able to use this computer again, soon

I also wanted to ask, maybe you guys can help me out here, if it is possible to swap i5's stock fan and replace it with a better and more silent one and, in case that's possible, how easy would that be... Maybe you guys have also a tip or two on which fan would be a good fit to out in there.
Scythe Zipang or Zipang 2 are supposed to be good. No idea if you can find those. Of those you posted I'd probably go with the Thermalright.
 
Dash Kappei said:
Dash Kappei said:
Sooo, I need a cpu cooler for my htpc.
Case is a Thermaltake DH101 and cpu is a Core i5.
I bought the Cooler Master Hyper + 212 because I read that it fitted, but apparently it does not and I need a "low profile" cooler? Damn, money wasted... Fuck! Will at least the Hyper one be compatible with a new gen of cpu, next round?

Anyway, I'm now looking for a new Low Profile cooler, I might just do a very mild OC on my core i5 (bringing it to 3,2Ghz).

I'd like to stay below €40 if possible.
Which one's the best between these (or just help me out with one that also has a silent fan):

http://www.eprice.it/dissipatori-cpu-ZALMAN/d-2585540
http://www.eprice.it/dissipatori-cpu-SCYTHE/d-2182516
http://www.eprice.it/dissipatori-cpu-ARCTIC COOLING/d-2386223
http://www.eprice.it/dissipatori-cpu-SCYTHE/d-3546464
http://www.eprice.it/dissipatori-cpu-THERMALTAKE/d-2606029
http://www.eprice.it/dissipatori-cpu-THERMALRIGHT/d-2385201
http://www.eprice.it/dissipatori-cpu-NEXUS/d-2207519
Anybody?
Sorry for the bump, hopefully I'm not too annoying... it's just that I'd like to be able to use this computer again, soon

I also wanted to ask, maybe you guys can help me out here, if it is possible to swap i5's stock fan and replace it with a better and more silent one and, in case that's possible, how easy would that be... Maybe you guys have also a tip or two on which fan would be a good fit to out in there.
This is where AIO water cooling is often best suited, since you don't have space for high end air cooling. Slim, single 120mm rads: Antec Kühler H₂O 620, or Corsair H60. AIOs may require a bit of modding, or creative placement in a SFF, or HTPC case.

For low profile air, you have options like: Scythe Shuriken, Scythe Big Shuriken/Big Shuriken II, Cooler Master GeminII S, Cooler Master GeminII S524, Scythe Kabuto, Prolimatech Samuel 17, and Scythe Kozuti, with Thermalright AXP-140, Noctua NH-C12, and Noctua NH-C14 on the upper end. You should also have just enough room to fit some of the tower style 92mm HSFs available.

For 92mm "Mini Towers:" Xigmatek HDT-S963 (or any of their various 92mm HDT models), OCZ Vendetta, Noctua NH-U9B (or any of the NH-U series), Cooler Master Hyper TX-3/Hyper TX-3 Evo, others.

Take a look at some Thermaltake DH101 reviews, and check out pictures from the build portion.
 
I'm debating between getting the Crucial 512 GB SSD hard drive or a ATI 6990 GPU.

Can I use that hard drive in my PC setup? I plan on getting both. I just don't know which to get first.

Help me decide GAF!

Thanks.
 
dbztrk said:
I'm debating between getting the Crucial 512 GB SSD hard drive or a ATI 6990 GPU.

Can I use that hard drive in my PC setup? I plan on getting both. I just don't know which to get first.

Help me decide GAF!

Thanks.

I would do a lot more research before spending thousands of dollars on PC components. Both will work, but both are incredibly expensive, and only worth it for someone that has a specific application in mind.

I would get the $700 Crucial 512gb only if you do Audio/Video production work, and need a ton of SSD storage space. Even then, RAID'd SSD's would perform better than one huge SSD. Are you planning to put every game you own on it or something? If so, know that you won't receive an FPS increase in most of them. The only improvement will be in loading times.

Only get the 6990 if you're running multiple monitors, or a single monitor with a high resolution (2560x1600 for instance). At 1080p, it's a waste of money. If you're going 3D, go with Nvidia.

If you are determined to spend a ton of money, I'd get the 6990 first. If you play a lot of games, it is going to give you the most noticeable improvements over whatever video card you have in there now. Know that you'll need a pretty beefy PSU to run it though, and that it will run hot and loud.
 
dbztrk said:
I'm debating between getting the Crucial 512 GB SSD hard drive or a ATI 6990 GPU.

Can I use that hard drive in my PC setup? I plan on getting both. I just don't know which to get first.

Help me decide GAF!

Thanks.
For games, the video card would be the obvious choice. For general speedier windows experience, SSD.
 
LordCanti said:
Only get the 6990 if you're running multiple monitors, or a single monitor with a high resolution (2560x1600 for instance). At 1080p, it's a waste of money. If you're going 3D, go with Nvidia.
6990 are CF 6970 in one card. Even at 1080p, you need CF to play same games, BF3, Witcher 2 and etc., at max settings and good framerate. So, no, it's not a waste at that resolution.
 
I know nothing about overclocking. After doing some googling, it looks like my UEFI BIOS has preset settings for certain frequencies above stock. Is it okay for me to use those preset settings? I'm looking to OC my 2500k to maybe 4.5GHz?

mobo: ASRock Z68 Extreme4
cpu cooler: Hyper 212+
 
Clydefrog said:
I know nothing about overclocking. After doing some googling, it looks like my UEFI BIOS has preset settings for certain frequencies above stock. Is it okay for me to use those preset settings? I'm looking to OC my 2500k to maybe 4.5GHz?

mobo: ASRock Z68 Extreme4
cpu cooler: Hyper 212+
·feist· said:
Did you follow the guide in the OP? While I've never used it, Clunk's beginners' overclocking guides have been among the most popular for at least the last three generations of Intel processors.
Hazaro said:
Auto overclocking really isn't preferable.
 
·feist· said:
Auto overclocking really isn't preferable.

On the asrock extreme 4 gen 3, its good actually.

my manual settings are no better than using the turbo 4.6ghz option which is what I ended up with for 24/7 usage.

set the turbo to 4.6, disable spread spectrum, enable PLL overvoltage and its done.
 
RukusProvider said:
On the asrock extreme 4 gen 3, its good actually.

my manual settings are no better than using the turbo 4.6ghz option which is what I ended up with for 24/7 usage.

set the turbo to 4.6, disable spread spectrum, enable PLL overvoltage and its done.
That's largely to do with Intel greatly simplifying what you can do with s1155 overclocking. S2011 won't be quite the same. One positive to what Intel has done is that, for beginners, it's given a near "press the win button" approach to overclocking. Either way, I don't know of anyone who hasn't been able to get either a higher clock, or lower voltage, manually. Often both.
 
·feist· said:
That's largely to do with Intel greatly simplifying what you can do with s1155 overclocking. S2011 won't be quite the same. One positive to what Intel has done is that, for beginners, it's given a near "press the win button" approach to overclocking. Either way, I don't know of anyone who hasn't been able to get either a higher clock, or lower voltage, manually. Often both.

Aint that the truth. x58 is sometimes a little overwhelming with the different things you can tweak to overclock.
 
Guys, need help.

I'm about to order all the parts for a new PC, and the video card has me stumped. Why are there so many different EVGA 570's on Newegg? I know about the superclocked cards, but there seems to be multiple models and I don't know which to get...
 
Ok so out of the blue, my mother calls me. She informs me that there is 2 bonds in the bank about to mature for me. So im thinking, hey time to upgrade that 5770 finally! So i was thinking of upgrading to a 6850 since its low cost. But do any of you have suggestions? i don't want to spend more then 250$ after tax on a card. Also I prefer AMD due to bitcoins.
 
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