"I need a New PC!" 2011 Thread of reading the OP. Seriously. [Part 2]
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chrisisawesome
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scogoth said:
He wants ALL the graphics
That is why I said coolerwise. Have to remember a large # don't review because it is fine.Prodigal said:I'm only hesitant to order one because the failure rate seems a little high from the newegg reviews...but they are newegg reviews.
Still it is a touch higher than I would like. It is a nice GPU though and if you get a working one you'll probably be set for a while.
Alternative would be the eVGA double fan cooler imo.
Hazaro said:
This 560ti is also tempting based on the reviews, though the price is the same and it can get pretty hot in my room since I'm in Florida.
Thanks for your help though, now I just have to decide between those two.
For what it's worth, I've been having difficulty with mine (Asus GTX 560 Ti DirectCU II). Lots of random crashing to desktop on pretty much every game, and the thread on nVidia's forum complaining about them seems to be pretty big.Prodigal said:I'm only hesitant to order one because the failure rate seems a little high from the newegg reviews...but they are newegg reviews.
Some people say it's the latest drivers, whilst other people say that it's to do with voltage. Whatever it is, it seems to affect factory OC'd cards more than ones which stick to nVidia's specification, and nobody really knows what's going on. Some fixes work for some situations, and other times they don't.
For mine, nothing worked. The card is almost assuredly bunk, so I'm RMA'ing it tomorrow. But for what it's worth, when it was actually in-game, it was a great performer. I thought I'd get junk performance on the latest games like DXHR and The Witcher 2, but they play really smoothly and look amazing. I know when I get my replacement card, I'm 99% sure it'll be a 560 Ti (though probably not one that's factory overclocked this time).
That said, Hazaro is probably right; only people with faulty cards want to review them, so as to warn other potential customers. As I am now!
Chances are if you order one, you'll not have any problems.
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Review averages always tend to be way out of whack. Usually it's:
Works= 5 eggs
doesn't work = 0 eggs
Works= 5 eggs
doesn't work = 0 eggs
Would this RAM: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231416
Work with this MB?: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813138319
If so, my CURRENT build:
Would be upgraded to
Mainly for BF3 and new star wars MMO. Thoughts?
Work with this MB?: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813138319
If so, my CURRENT build:
Would be upgraded to
- BIOSTAR TZ68A+ LGA 1155 Intel Z68 HDMI SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX Intel Motherboard
- Intel Core i5-2500K Sandy Bridge 3.3GHz (3.7GHz Turbo Boost) LGA 1155 95W Quad-Core Desktop Processor BX80623I52500K
- G.SKILL Sniper 8GB (2 x 4GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1333 (PC3 10666) Desktop Memory Model F3-10666CL9D-8GBSR
Mainly for BF3 and new star wars MMO. Thoughts?
I bought a Panasonic TC-P42ST30 last week, and I was a little miffed to find out that the 6870 I have had 2 x DVI and 2 x displayport connections on it. I currently have 2 x 23" monitors hooked up to it, using both DVI ports. I purchased a displayport to HDMI adapter from Monoprice and went to hook it up today only to find that I cannot enable all 3 displays at the same time. A little Google-fu reveals that I need an active displayport adapter, which I don't have. However, the only active displayport adapters I can find are for DVI, which isn't really what I need. So, does anyone here know of a reputable vendor that sells an active displayport to hdmi adapter? If not, am I forced to use a displayport to DVI adapter, and then a DVI to hdmi adapter? This is possible, I suppose, but is annoying because it will not push audio over that connection (right?).
thanks. one last question. the original memory I listed was PC312800 but I found one as PC3 10666. any difference to be concerned with if I got PC3 10666 instead?Hazaro said:
G.SKILL Sniper 8GB (2 x 4GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1333 (PC3 10666) Desktop Memory Model F3-10666CL9D-8GBSR
With it clocked to 3ghz, and at 1080p, your 5850 is going to be the limiting factor far more often than your cpu. Just saying if you upgrade your cpu/mobo/ram, you might not even notice the difference in games. Same goes for another 200mhz bump, but as your load temps are low, wouldn't hurt to try I guess.vaelic said:ah yes, sorry about that. new to doing this stuff on GAF
Btw, I OC'd my current Q6600 to 3.0 GHz from 2.4 and I am running just fine at 45c at load with after market cooler. Wondering if it would be worth it to push to 3.2 Any thoughts?
Zane said:
lol small performance gain lol
Zane said:
Yeah ok. I've had mine for going on 2 months and my bill is going down. And I'm in Houston. It's humid as fuck here. Anecdotal evidence and all that. Yes they obviously will suck MORE power than what he currently has, but lets not exaggerate here with relation to the OVERALL electricity bill. SLI 580s are a beast. The only thing you're correct on is the price that they cost. It's a lot. Worth it.
In the second quote talking about 3D... if the scenario involves a 3D multi-monitor setup you're still recommending AMD? Do you fact check anything you talk about?
really? so if I upgrade todwebo said:
- BIOSTAR TZ68A+ LGA 1155 Intel Z68 HDMI SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX Intel Motherboard
- Intel Core i5-2500K Sandy Bridge 3.3GHz (3.7GHz Turbo Boost) LGA 1155 95W Quad-Core Desktop Processor BX80623I52500K
- G.SKILL Sniper 8GB (2 x 4GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800) Desktop Memory Model F3-12800CL9D-8GBSR
ill barely notice a difference just because of my 5850?
Smokey said:
Yes, there is a small performance gain going from one 580 to another. You're going from 60 fps on every game out there at high resolutions with copious amounts of AA to... pretty much the same thing. Your benchmark scores will go up but c'mon are you using your hardware to play games or are you playing games to test your hardware?
If you're not going to see any improvement when it comes to actual game playability, then what does it matter? Why spend that extra cash and suck up that extra power?
If you really want that extra power, then 2x 6950s will give it to you. That setup would murder every game for the next few years. Hell, a single 570 will do that as long as your resolution is lower than 1600p.
also I missed him saying 3D. But man that is such an edge case. So much so that I don't know a single person with that setup.
Prodigal said:
I would get the Frozr. Seems like it's cheaper. And it comes with a factory OC and that cooler will allow you to OC further.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814127565
Jtrizzy said:
If six months down the road, you find you want more power, I'd just upgrade to the new Nvidia cards. Pretty sure they'll be out by then.
Prodigal said:
Hmmm...yeah the number of 1 egg reviews on NewEgg is disturbingly low.
I'll say go with the EVGA then. 1% of 1 egg reviews vs. 19% of 1 egg reviews on the Twin Frozr. Can't argue with that.
I haven't really seen any issues with the ones my friends got, but there has to be something to those NewEgg reviews.
Finished my HTPC build 
Rage @ 720p 2x-AA, Large Textures:
AMD A8-3850 Llano APU
Biostar A75MH
Radeon 6570 2GB
4GB DDR1600 RAM
120GB SSD
I opted out the opitical drive as I already have a PS3 and happy using it for Blurays. I mostly want to use for digital content and streaming.
I installed Windows 7 onto an SSD via a USB stick - it took about 4 minutes to do the full install Damn thing is FAST! Also, the Llano CPU allows me to plug in the Radeon 6570 and run in crossfire mode
It's the stock AMD fan. With Smart CPU Fan turned on in the BIOS, the HTPC is nearly silent in normal movie watching, though gets audible under load (gaming). I can't really hear it above the game audio though.
One of the most surprising thing is how well this runs Rage. I get perfect 60 fps at 720p (large textures, 2x AA); 30 fps at 1080p .... absolutely NO Texture Pop Up in any resolution. My only guess is the 2GB of video memory + the speed of the SSD allows the streaming to be almost instant.
I wasn't expecting to run the latest games at any respectable quaility, but so far this has proven to be surprising
Rage @ 720p 2x-AA, Large Textures:
AMD A8-3850 Llano APU
Biostar A75MH
Radeon 6570 2GB
4GB DDR1600 RAM
120GB SSD
I opted out the opitical drive as I already have a PS3 and happy using it for Blurays. I mostly want to use for digital content and streaming.
I installed Windows 7 onto an SSD via a USB stick - it took about 4 minutes to do the full install
Damn thing is FAST! Also, the Llano CPU allows me to plug in the Radeon 6570 and run in crossfire mode It's the stock AMD fan. With Smart CPU Fan turned on in the BIOS, the HTPC is nearly silent in normal movie watching, though gets audible under load (gaming). I can't really hear it above the game audio though.
One of the most surprising thing is how well this runs Rage. I get perfect 60 fps at 720p (large textures, 2x AA); 30 fps at 1080p .... absolutely NO Texture Pop Up in any resolution. My only guess is the 2GB of video memory + the speed of the SSD allows the streaming to be almost instant.
I wasn't expecting to run the latest games at any respectable quaility, but so far this has proven to be surprising
Yeah, pretty much. I'd say for most games at 1080p / high settings, your gpu will bottleneck you (long) before your cpu does. If you do a lot of cpu-intensive stuff, or are planning to upgrade the gpu as well, then sure, go nuts.vaelic said:
Battlefield 3 beta cpu scaling (spoiler: there isn't much): http://www.techspot.com/review/448-battlefield-3-beta-performance/page7.html
As for SWTOR, your cpu can easily run WoW >60fps, and I doubt it'll be much more demanding than that.
A CPU boost should help his 5850 and boost his min frames by a decent amount, but in reality a 3Ghz quad will net over 60fps in most titles, thus not limiting the GPU. So I think normally a GPU upgrade would be the better option, but upgrading from a 5850 doesn't make too much sense to me right now value wise.
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I've already just ordered a new DVD ROM drive instead. Those drives were pretty old, and I'm pretty sure that they were IDE only. Unfortunately, for the SSD, there doesn't seem to be any mounting brackets that will fight something that small. I guess I'll just have to set it on top of something for now.abuC said:
ratcliffja said:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produ...na&AID=10521304&PID=4169658&SID=1uuc3eovnysv6
http://www.silentpcreview.com/article8-page2.html
http://www.icydock.com/goods.php?id=80
Im not sure what kind of case you have, but if it's a Corsair 600,650, 700 or 800, the HDD trays are made to fit SSDs.
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trilobyte said:Finished my HTPC build
AMD A8-3850 Llano APU
Biostar A75MH
Radeon 6570 2GB
4GB DDR1600 RAM
120GB SSD
dwebo said:
It's a lot more demanding actually... I think that CPU will still be fine though.
Zane said:
But it does help with playability. With SLI 580s I am able to play in 3D on my monitor and still keep a 60fps framerate with everything maxed on just about every game. When not using 3D I usually get 120fps in most games, which syncs nicely with my 120hz 3D monitor eliminating screen tear and making for an incredibly smooth experience. Even if one doesn't use a 3D Surround setup, a plain 2D Surround setup benefits greatly from 3GB SLI 580s.
Yes they cost a lot. Yes they probably are not worth it to MOST people. But you can't sit here and say it doesn't help performance. I just told you my case. I use a 120hz 3D monitor and it helps a great deal. Others use them to keep good FPS in a surround setup. These setups may be "exotic" but that's exactly what these cards are built for.
My HTPC actually didn't cost that much, just $650
If I didn't want to go for that extra gaming kick, I could have ditched the 6570 and saved about $80
It did turn out to be one powerful little beast though. I put it on my Wireless-N network and streaming music/movies off my fileserver with no trouble.
I'm still messing with the software. I'm using a keyboard+touchpad solution but I hope to interface using my Harmony One for most of the digital media stuff.
If I didn't want to go for that extra gaming kick, I could have ditched the 6570 and saved about $80
It did turn out to be one powerful little beast though. I put it on my Wireless-N network and streaming music/movies off my fileserver with no trouble.
I'm still messing with the software. I'm using a keyboard+touchpad solution but I hope to interface using my Harmony One for most of the digital media stuff.
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