"I need a New PC!" 2011 Thread of reading the OP. Seriously. [Part 2]

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commish said:
I am getting BF3 digitally, and I'd install windows via a drive if I had it.
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If you had a USB drive, or Windows?

I am pretty sure you can download a Windows 7 ISO from Microsoft directly, and then use your own serial on it.
 
Sorry if this shouldn't be in this thread but it's part of building a new system.

I tried moving my Steam folder(and the game saves in the document folder) over from my old Vista hard drive to my new Windows 7 hard drive and it's not working. I got Steam to run by going into the folder and running the application as an administrator. I then logged into my account and all the games showed up but wouldn't run. I tried changing the security permissions of the entire folder but still can't get it to run without using the administrator setting. Any tips?
 
Laekon said:
Sorry if this shouldn't be in this thread but it's part of building a new system.

I tried moving my Steam folder(and the game saves in the document folder) over from my old Vista hard drive to my new Windows 7 hard drive and it's not working. I got Steam to run by going into the folder and running the application as an administrator. I then logged into my account and all the games showed up but wouldn't run. I tried changing the security permissions of the entire folder but still can't get it to run without using the administrator setting. Any tips?
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You have to reinstall Steam, then you can move the steamapps folder, I think.
 
Just an update on my game crashing problem from last week.

The GTX 560 Ti was due to go back on Monday because of the crashes. The crashes, however, continued after I replaced it with my 4870X2, and now eBuyer want my CPU and motherboard back after my comp failed Prime95's torture test.

Luck has not been on my side with this build. And this was meant to be an early birthday gift to myself (I'm 24 tomorrow) in part for ploughing through a pretty awful 12 months, and also to celebrate the fact that it's been precisely 10 years since I built my first PC with help from my dad on my 14th birthday. :(

Oh well, hopefully this is the end of my PC woes now. I've never had a build as problematic as this before. At worse, I've had a bad stick of RAM or an obviously faulty GPU. This has been an 8-day long nightmare!
 
I give you my new CPU block,

cant wait to test it :D

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So looking at the contents I'm supposed to get with the NH-D14, I didn't get ANY of the stuff in the bag on the far right with the D14 label. No thermal compound, or the voltage adapters, or the fan cable splitter.

Guess I should contact Noctua.

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chaosblade said:
So looking at the contents I'm supposed to get with the NH-D14, I didn't get ANY of the stuff in the bag on the far right with the D14 label. No thermal compound, or the voltage adapters, or the fan cable splitter.

Guess I should contact Noctua.
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You certainly should.
 
Does this case make it impossible for me to upgrade my card to anything decent? Its pretty small and doesn't have much space for air to escape.

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Was planning on getting a 4850, but it appears newegg doesn't have them anymore.

If that case is OK, what card would go best with phenom x4 2.4ghz?
 
So my Pc is all set up and running. Installed crysis 2 with dx11 and high res texture pack. Everything's set to ultra and resolution is 1680x1050. I'm getting 30-45 fps and am definitely happy with the results!
My only issue is that, playing through gears of war 3 I really didn't see THAT big a graphical difference - they both look great and that's the problem... I'm spending the amount an Xbox costs on a graphics card so I was expecting a huuuuuge leap.
Anyone else had this feeling?
 
So is 50 bucks a good deal for 4gb of Corsair ddr2 PC2-6400 800Mhz?

I haven't kept up with prices but it seems you can get double the amount for the same price a for dd3.

not getting a new pc though. 4gb is just not enough now that I've upgraded to 7 64-bit.
 
chrisisawesome said:
So my Pc is all set up and running. Installed crysis 2 with dx11 and high res texture pack. Everything's set to ultra and resolution is 1680x1050. I'm getting 30-45 fps and am definitely happy with the results!
My only issue is that, playing through gears of war 3 I really didn't see THAT big a graphical difference - they both look great and that's the problem... I'm spending the amount an Xbox costs on a graphics card so I was expecting a huuuuuge leap.
Anyone else had this feeling?
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Well, i dont know what tv you play on, but i play my xbox games on 46" and my pc games on 23" and its a very BIG difference, xbox is jaggie-a-thon also sub par quality textures compared to pc
 
jmdajr said:
So is 50 bucks a good deal for 4gb of Corsair ddr2 PC2-6400 800Mhz?

I haven't kept up with prices but it seems you can get double the amount for the same price a for dd3.

not getting a new pc though. 4gb is just not enough now that I've upgraded to 7 64-bit.
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Yes, DDR2 is very expensive atm.
 
I'm currently deciding between a GTX 560 ti and a 570 to replace my 4870x2 (awful microstutter). The 560ti is less painful on the wallet, but would it at least be moderately better than what I have now? I play everything at 1080p with 4xAA.
I've been a bit out of the hardware loop lately.

edit: looking at these two atm:
http://ncix.com/products/?sku=58303&vpn=N560GTX-TI%20Twin%20Frozr%20II%2FOC&manufacture=MSI%2FMicroStar

http://www.ncix.com/products/?sku=61199&vpn=02G-P3-1469-KR&manufacture=eVGA
 
chaosblade said:
Checked all the parts of the packaging, even opened up those outer box things that were around the cooler box. No dice. Guess I'll order some, will probably take forever for Noctua to get some to me assuming they would send it.
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They would send it but try and get the retailer you ordered from to give it to you. It is supposed to be included in the pack and it is excellent thermal paste too.
 
luka said:
I'm currently deciding between a GTX 560 ti and a 570 to replace my 4870x2 (awful microstutter). The 560ti is less painful on the wallet, but would it at least be moderately better than what I have now? I play everything at 1080p with 4xAA.
I've been a bit out of the hardware loop lately.
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If you go by this hierarchy chart on Tom's Hardware, the 560 Ti is actually below a 4870x2 and the 570 is even with it.
 
scogoth said:
They would send it but try and get the retailer you ordered from to give it to you. It is supposed to be included in the pack and it is excellent thermal paste too.
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I was also missing the fan Y-splitter and the ULNA cables (and anything else in that bag). Already emailed Noctua about it.
 
razgriz417 said:
Whoa, what happened to the samsung spinpoint 2TBs? They all jumped $3, did I miss something?
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Probably has something to do with the expected hard drive shortages due to plants in Thailand shutting down because of flooding.
 
luka said:
It's really kind of disconcerting that a card I got back in 2008 is still near the top of the chart. :P
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That chart doesn't really display the performance gaps between levels though.
 
XiaNaphryz said:
That chart doesn't really display the performance gaps between levels though.
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Yeah, I'm aware of that. I'm just talking about having a clear and appreciable difference in performance to really justify an upgrade.

Anyway I just dropped for the 560ti. It may not reach x2 levels in all cases but it will feel good to finally get rid of this microstuttering monstrosity.
 
I just bought a new Alienware MX 11 R3 and to make sure I'm using all the netbook's juice for gaming, I went into the Control Panel and turned off all the visual effects and as well the Aero desktop. Will it truly make a difference in performance?
 
gray_fox224 said:
I just bought a new Alienware MX 11 R3 and to make sure I'm using all the netbook's juice for gaming, I went into the Control Panel and turned off all the visual effects and as well the Aero desktop. Will it truly make a difference in performance?
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Not really. You can use programs to automatically turn off Aero for games anyways.
 
theRizzle said:
If you had a USB drive, or Windows?

I am pretty sure you can download a Windows 7 ISO from Microsoft directly, and then use your own serial on it.
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Oh, seriously? That would make my day. Gonna look into it. Gracias.
 
I'm building a new PC and this is roughly what I'm I'm working with:

Asus P8Z68-V LGA 1155 Intel Z68 Motherboard
Intel Core i5-2500k Sandy Bridge 3.3GHz proc
G.Skill Ripjaws X series 8GB (2x4GB) DDR3 SDRAM 1600
MSI N460GTX Cyclone 1GB 256-bit GDDR5
OCZ Agility 3 60GB SATA III SSD

all packaged in the Corsair 600t case

... I doubt I'll have more than 1-2 more 7200RPM drives in the case and I don't see myself bothering with SLI at any point.

My question is: What should I be looking for out of a PSU? Someone suggested I get at least 650w, but would a 600w Corsair work? What do I look for to know what I'm going to need?

Specifically I'm looking at the Corsair 600w Builder Series and the 700w Gamer Series, but that's just based on recommendation. I read through some things, but between vagueness and ignorance, I'm still unsure of what I need, and when the difference can run as much as $50, I'd like to be sure I'm getting what I need, and not too much or too little. Obviously, in the end I'd rather be safe than sorry.

Also, any comments/recommendations on the build are welcome.
 
luka said:
I'm currently deciding between a GTX 560 ti and a 570 to replace my 4870x2 (awful microstutter). The 560ti is less painful on the wallet, but would it at least be moderately better than what I have now? I play everything at 1080p with 4xAA.
I've been a bit out of the hardware loop lately.

edit: looking at these two atm:
http://ncix.com/products/?sku=58303&vpn=N560GTX-TI%20Twin%20Frozr%20II%2FOC&manufacture=MSI%2FMicroStar

http://www.ncix.com/products/?sku=61199&vpn=02G-P3-1469-KR&manufacture=eVGA
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I had exactly the same upgrade you, from a 4870X2 played at 1080p with 4xAA to one of the new GTX 500 series cards. I decided in the end to go with the 560 Ti. Whilst the 4870X2 is a monster, it's also noisy, hot and because of the lack of microstuttering, the 560 Ti felt like an improvement to me. There's nothing more horrible than a game telling you that you're playing at 60fps, but looks a lot less thanks to the stuttering. The 560 Ti got rid of that and made some of my games (DX11 and PhysX ones) look a helluva lot better in the process, so it was worth it.
 
Would anyone with an Asus P8Z68 give their opinions about it? I've heard plenty of issues with dual booting and whatnot so I would like to get the cleared before I buy it.
 
So I'm thinking about picking up a second 580 to SLI for BF3. I have this one here Current 580, however the other offerings from EVGA are superclocked and are the exact same price. Would I be able to mix and match these superclocked and non-superclocked cards in SLI with no negative consequences, or must I stick with the exact same card?
 
Beaner said:
So I'm thinking about picking up a second 580 to SLI for BF3. I have this one here Current 580, however the other offerings from EVGA are superclocked and are the exact same price. Would I be able to mix and match these superclocked and non-superclocked cards in SLI with no negative consequences, or must I stick with the exact same card?
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You can use different brands. I think they may have to be clocked at the same speed though but you can set that yourself.

What res are you playing bf3 at, 1 should be enough at 1080p
 
barugon said:
I'm building a new PC and this is roughly what I'm I'm working with:

Asus P8Z68-V LGA 1155 Intel Z68 Motherboard
Intel Core i5-2500k Sandy Bridge 3.3GHz proc
G.Skill Ripjaws X series 8GB (2x4GB) DDR3 SDRAM 1600
MSI N460GTX Cyclone 1GB 256-bit GDDR5
OCZ Agility 3 60GB SATA III SSD

all packaged in the Corsair 600t case

... I doubt I'll have more than 1-2 more 7200RPM drives in the case and I don't see myself bothering with SLI at any point.

My question is: What should I be looking for out of a PSU? Someone suggested I get at least 650w, but would a 600w Corsair work? What do I look for to know what I'm going to need?

Specifically I'm looking at the Corsair 600w Builder Series and the 700w Gamer Series, but that's just based on recommendation. I read through some things, but between vagueness and ignorance, I'm still unsure of what I need, and when the difference can run as much as $50, I'd like to be sure I'm getting what I need, and not too much or too little. Obviously, in the end I'd rather be safe than sorry.

Also, any comments/recommendations on the build are welcome.
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I don't think you need 650W. I have a 2500k and a GTX 560 Ti, and my 520W Antec PSU is doing fine. I have no idea how much you'd need for a second HDD...
 
sp3000 said:
You can use different brands. I think they may have to be clocked at the same speed though but you can set that yourself.

What res are you playing bf3 at, 1 should be enough at 1080p
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He probably wants to max settings running 1080p@60fps which would require highend SLI / CF setup.
 
sp3000 said:
You can use different brands. I think they may have to be clocked at the same speed though but you can set that yourself.

What res are you playing bf3 at, 1 should be enough at 1080p
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I currently have an EVGA 580 so the only difference (I think) would be whether it is superclocked or not. And 1080p, however I also like to fiddle around with 3d Vision every now and again (and Metro also needs SLI for anything stable)
 
Just installed my new 560ti, doesn't seem to be any problems but after running 3dmark06 it said "my score should be better".

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It seems like I fit in with the majority of other people though...I'm not overclocking anything either.
 
I don't feel like im typing faster but man it's much more satisfying to type on it. A little small width wise though for my tastes, I've gotten used to fatter keyboards.
 
Prodigal said:
Oh okay so it doesn't take into account clockspeeds when comparing? Just the device itself?
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yes. It just seems to pick every result with the same CPU and videocard combination. Even the ones that were cooled and overclocked with liquid kryptonite lol
 
So i bought a second hand LGA775 motherboard, and looking at the CPU socket, i wasnt sure, but i think there may have been 1 or 2 bent pins (uncertain, as i had never came across bent pins on a motherboard before). I carried on putting the CPU in etc and im currently on the PC now typing this.

What symptoms might come up if they were deffinately bent, and is there any programs i could run to test things to see if things are ok ?

I really should have a taken a photo of the socket before i connected everything but well ..... Captain Hindsight and all that.
 
Omikaru said:
I had exactly the same upgrade you, from a 4870X2 played at 1080p with 4xAA to one of the new GTX 500 series cards. I decided in the end to go with the 560 Ti. Whilst the 4870X2 is a monster, it's also noisy, hot and because of the lack of microstuttering, the 560 Ti felt like an improvement to me. There's nothing more horrible than a game telling you that you're playing at 60fps, but looks a lot less thanks to the stuttering. The 560 Ti got rid of that and made some of my games (DX11 and PhysX ones) look a helluva lot better in the process, so it was worth it.
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My god. You are so right. Picked up a 560ti for 200 bucks and Rage is perfect 1080p60 4xAA wioth no pop in whatsoever. Remarkably quiet for a stock cooler too. HUGE improvement. I can't believe I tolerated that monster for the last 3 years.
 
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