Dries
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Am I seeing this correctly, but does the R9 295X2 have no HDMI port?
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Am I seeing this correctly, but does the R9 295X2 have no HDMI port?
Doesn't seem like any of them have HDMI, no. And I believe AMD cards can carry audio through DVI -> HDMI adapters, if you need it, so it's not really an issue.
Coulomb_Barrier
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You can crossfire an 295X2 for absurd performance, yes
No it's a dual-GPU card in one, but I suspect you already know this. Point is, it's faster than the Titan while being massively cheaper.
I'm willing to spend up to about thousand. I want something I can game on while I'm away with it. I will be with out my family and stuck in a hotel room for a full month so I need to to be some strong to play some newish games.
For up to $1000, the GTX 860M (benchmarks in link) is the strongest graphics chipset you can get in a laptop. I think it'll handle newer games at low to medium settings fluidly at 1080p, so keep in mind that if you get a laptop with a lower native screen resolution, it'll run games a bit faster. Here's the Newegg selection, mostly Lenovo with some Asus and Acer. Lenovo's website also has similar offerings for just under $1000.
Yeah I'd been looking into some of them actually.
I haven't used a lot of Lenvo product so I'm just unsure.
I have a question, as far as Skype and Video chat go, could something a new IPad or MacBook go well for that and I take consoles for the gaming stuff?
Tunned
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Hi guys, I have a few questions.
Over a week ago I was looking to build a new PC, I made up a list of parts and lordfuzzybutt came back with an optimized build here, the original reply is here.
Eventually I backed out of the idea because a GTX980 just does not cut it for me if I get a 1440p G-Sync monitor, and a Titan X is way to expensive here in Europe. So I decided to wait for a potential release of a Gtx 980 Ti.
GTA V PC is coming out next week and I want to run it full spec. I'm going to New York this Saturday and my question is, from the build in the link, will a Titan X fit in nicely if I buy one in New York, or will the i5 be a bottleneck down the road? The price difference is rather big, so i'm thinking why not, i'll have a perfect card for 1440p and downsampling if needed, and this build can last me a long time (3-4 years) with no need for a graphics card swap.
That, and can some one recommend me a good store in New York to buy computer hardware, although I'm not sure if I can just walk in and buy a Titan X seeing how they just fly from stock.
Over a week ago I was looking to build a new PC, I made up a list of parts and lordfuzzybutt came back with an optimized build here, the original reply is here.
Eventually I backed out of the idea because a GTX980 just does not cut it for me if I get a 1440p G-Sync monitor, and a Titan X is way to expensive here in Europe. So I decided to wait for a potential release of a Gtx 980 Ti.
GTA V PC is coming out next week and I want to run it full spec. I'm going to New York this Saturday and my question is, from the build in the link, will a Titan X fit in nicely if I buy one in New York, or will the i5 be a bottleneck down the road? The price difference is rather big, so i'm thinking why not, i'll have a perfect card for 1440p and downsampling if needed, and this build can last me a long time (3-4 years) with no need for a graphics card swap.
That, and can some one recommend me a good store in New York to buy computer hardware, although I'm not sure if I can just walk in and buy a Titan X seeing how they just fly from stock.
Acrylic7
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This seems like a really god deal, am I wrong? http://slickdeals.net/f/7774825-hp-...980-8gb-ram-2-tb-hd-1088-49-and-free-shipping
The graphics card and processor alone is about $900ish.
The graphics card and processor alone is about $900ish.
Yeah, that does seem like a pretty good deal, actually. Only thing missing is an SSD.
I'm always skeptical of pre-built PCs anymore, though.
So I bought an r9 290x about a month ago and it's sort of been running hot ever since it was installed. Usually it sits idle (fan at 40rpm) at like 45-50' and I'm wondering if that's too warm? At load (with the fan at about 55rpm) it sits at about 59-62'..
Are these temps normal?
Anyone know of any good add-on/external GPU coolers?
Are these temps normal?
Anyone know of any good add-on/external GPU coolers?
lordfuzzybutt
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Those temps are fine. Anything below 75 is very good for that card.
Makoto-Yuki
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thanks for sharing that link! i had no idea there was so little difference between the i5/i7 when it comes to games. i won't be upgrading my CPU then!
if i were to upgrade to a 980/390/390X would my cpu slow it down? i've heard of bottlenecking but don't entirely understand it.
is the celsius? my 290 while not gaming is usually 28-35C. while underload and overclocked 11% the highest i've seen it go is 80C. though apparently my case isn't that great for air flow. i have only 3 fans cooling the system running at max.
anyway the 290 is OK to run up to 95C i believe. so 60C is quite good it seems.
Those temps are pretty solid, especially for an R9 290X. I've heard that card runs pretty hot (hotter than the temps you have there).
45-50°C is a little high for idle, but nothing to be too worried about, as long as it's still relatively cool under load. Are you using multiple monitors on one card? I'm not sure if newer AMD cards do this, but my 7950 runs at a higher clock with multiple displays connected, making it sit at about your temp range while idle. Also, I don't think those fan RPMs are right.
Yep seems fairly inline with reviews -
http://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/MSI/R9_290X_Lightning/28.html
http://www.kitguru.net/components/graphic-cards/zardon/sapphire-r9-290x-vapor-x-oc-review/20/
Edit - Beaten several times
Yeah, I'm running x2 23" monitors both displaying at 1080 x 1920...
Thanks guys. Guess I'll just have to deal :c
i5 should be fine with 980. Also probably with be fine with the 390/390x.
The bottlenecking refers to when the CPU can't keep up with the GPU because it's not able to sent instructions fast enough to the GPU. So I don't think it will slow down the CPU, the GPU is the one that will be slowed by the CPU because of being a lot more powerful.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DAgpvWc4VBM&ab_channel=JayzTwoCents
sackboy2197
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Would a GTX970 be enough for running games on a 21:9 (60fps, ultra ideally)? I find those monitors and aspect ratio strangely fascinating. It's mostly a curiosity though, I'll go for a cheaper monitor for now, but I'd like to know if it's something that would be viable later on.
This is surprising, considering that the PS4 and Xbox one offer 8 cores (well 6), I would have expected games released in the past year to favor the i7.
It's not surprising since a dual core Intel CPU can compete with a 6 core console cpu since the Intel cpu has much higher instructions per clock. The CPU cores in consoles are weak hence they require to take advantage of multi threading to really get any real performance out of them.
Fair point. I thought since they are already breaking up their code into jobs to run across the 6 cores, they would allow that to scale up or down for the PC.
You would hope so, but since it just works even on basic parts like a £50 Pentium G3258, most devs don't bother. It's a shame.
Deadly Cyclone
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Guys I am very close to doing this for my first gaming PC. A few friends said it was a fantastic deal and all I'd need to add is some more RAM and maybe a SSD eventually.
http://slickdeals.net/f/7774825-hp-...980-8gb-ram-2-tb-hd-1088-49-and-free-shipping
Should I pull the trigger?
http://slickdeals.net/f/7774825-hp-...980-8gb-ram-2-tb-hd-1088-49-and-free-shipping
Should I pull the trigger?
For a pre-built it's a good deal. Probably has poor quality components, and you lack an SSD, but if you're opposed to building a computer yourself
which you shouldn't be >_>
Confrontation
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So I'm still using a PC that I bought about 7 or 8 ago and it was medium range at the time. Still using all the original parts as well somehow so that'll tell you how limited my possibilities are.
Anyway, last week, I turned on my PC and got absolutely no reaction from my monitor. Reconnected everything, still nothing. Took out the graphics card and connected the monitor to my other VGA port and it worked. This was, by the way, my greatest PC hardware achievement ever.
So that'll probably mean that my ancient graphics card (Sapphire Radeon x1550) is kaput?
If that's the case, what extremely cheap card should I put in there that'll work with my dinosaur PC?
Anyway, last week, I turned on my PC and got absolutely no reaction from my monitor. Reconnected everything, still nothing. Took out the graphics card and connected the monitor to my other VGA port and it worked. This was, by the way, my greatest PC hardware achievement ever.
So that'll probably mean that my ancient graphics card (Sapphire Radeon x1550) is kaput?
If that's the case, what extremely cheap card should I put in there that'll work with my dinosaur PC?
The GPU and processor alone would cost around $850. I'd probably go for it, you can always upgrade later.
Deadly Cyclone
Pride of Iowa State
I'm not against building one necessarily, but I was told this is a really good deal regardless.
That was my thinking.
Deadly Cyclone
Pride of Iowa State
Yeah, SSD and more RAM would be my first orders of business.
It's a pretty solid deal parts-wise, but I'd check the PSU for potential upgrade (companies like HP will often use cheap, low-quality PSUs), and consider a SSD upgrade sooner than later. Having a SSD for your OS/boot drive makes a big difference in overall use. It's ~$200 for a 500 GB SSD and is absolutely worth the cost.
Edit - Also note you'll have to spring a bit extra for the K version of the processor if you want to overclock, but I don't know what kind of options the included motherboard is going to offer on that front.
Yup and doesn't suppor g sync, runs hot, has poor frame pacing, and is a power hog
Had one since August. No issues. There does seem to be some quality control problems with the product, so maybe buy it from a vendor with a good RMA policy.
Confrontation
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Thanks for your reply. I just downloaded and ran HWinfo. Where do I look at and what should I copy to here?
In the HWInfo window, click on the Save Report button. You can choose text or HTML, doesn't matter. Upload that file somewhere for us to look at. Pastebin, Mediafire, etc. The text file may or may not be too large to just copy-and-paste into a thread post, I'm not sure.
Confrontation
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Well I just checked everything in the save window. Apologies if it's too long:
http://pastebin.com/NcK6qEDZ
Alright, your PC isn't too old then, it'll accept current PCI-E graphics cards. Just had to make sure, because the old Radeon X1550 was made in two different versions, the older AGP type and newer PCI-E type.
Now, as for replacement graphics cards.. given how old your PC is, you probably shouldn't spend a lot, your PC is fairly old and isn't capable of too much. What do you usually use the PC for? Old games? Watching videos? You probably don't have to spend very much ($50 or even less) for a modern brand new replacement graphics card that will outdo the Radeon X1550, like maybe this $53 XFX R7 240. Used graphics cards are also a possibility if you don't want to spend a lot on such an old PC.
Confrontation
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Thanks a great deal for your help so far.
Usually the older or simple game (AoE2 HD is my game of choice if I ever play on the pc at the moment) even though I would like to expand my possible gaming library. Any way I could either play Civ 5 and/or CS:Go on their lowest settings with an upgraded card or is that too much to ask from my current pc?
Also felt that my pc was struggling at times watching 720p youtube vids.
With the R7 240 technically it'll work, but..
Civilization V is more dependent on a good processor than graphics card so it may be possible, but you might get slowdown or it might just take a long time when the computer AI calculates their actions on their turns. Your processor just slightly exceeds the minimum requirements for Civilization 5, just so you know. Your PC technically doesn't meet CSGO's minimum processor requirements (AMD triple core is recommended, you have an AMD dual core), but there are people who have played the game with processors similar to yours (here's gameplay video from a PC with the 5000+ model, you have the 4400+ model). Given how close your PC is to the minimum acceptable specs, I'd aim for lowest settings possible, and I can't guarantee it'll be completely smooth, but it should be playable.
As for Youtube videos, I'm not sure a graphics card will help, as the main factor here is the outdated processor. It is possible for a graphics card to help in accelerating HTML5 Youtube playback, but I'm not sure if that's something that is built in and is already active on the latest Firefox/Chrome browsers or if it's something you may need to jump through some hoops to get working on Windows XP.
Sikamikanico
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Okay PC-GAF, I need some help.
I have a budget of around £2000, mostly due to left over equity from a house move.
I've been umming and aahing over a new build for ages. I've been looking at Intel, then AMD. Then back to Intel.
I've been toying with a triple monitor setup, then rethinking things and going for a large 34" gsync enabled monitor.
I've read a lot of the subject, but I'm curious as to what the general consensus is - AMD or Intel? Do I go for two GTX 970s in SLI, or a R295X?
Any help and advice would be appreciated. (Please, pile on the advice and help!)
This is primarily to run and play Elite Dangerous in a large cockpit esque setup with full headtracking etc.
I have a budget of around £2000, mostly due to left over equity from a house move.
I've been umming and aahing over a new build for ages. I've been looking at Intel, then AMD. Then back to Intel.
I've been toying with a triple monitor setup, then rethinking things and going for a large 34" gsync enabled monitor.
I've read a lot of the subject, but I'm curious as to what the general consensus is - AMD or Intel? Do I go for two GTX 970s in SLI, or a R295X?
Any help and advice would be appreciated. (Please, pile on the advice and help!)
This is primarily to run and play Elite Dangerous in a large cockpit esque setup with full headtracking etc.
Question: I'm looking at upgrading from my current build (a Celeron G550 with an H61 mobo and a Nvidia GT430 gpu) within the next year. I was planning on doing a full new build from scratch, but I couldn't help but notice all the love the 2500k was getting in this thread:
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=1024312
I don't do much in the way of CPU/GPU intense gaming, so would I be better off just saving my cash and investing in a 2500k and a new GPU (probably a 970) versus doing a fresh build with a newer CPU/mobo?
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=1024312
I don't do much in the way of CPU/GPU intense gaming, so would I be better off just saving my cash and investing in a 2500k and a new GPU (probably a 970) versus doing a fresh build with a newer CPU/mobo?
With 2k budget i would expect an Intel CPU and SLI NVIDIA GPUs.
Dont SLI 970s due to the 3.5GB issue.
No idea why you would even consider an AMD CPU.
AMD GPU/s is a possibility. Depends on what you are looking at in terms of resolution and features: Physx, Hairworks, DSR etc.
Personally i would build a Z97 4790K build, GTX 980, save the money for the next best GPU.
If you want to game above 1080p then multi GPU would be fine.
Assuming you could find a i5 2500K used or 3570K ($170 from Microcenter), it'd be cheaper, but I don't know how well the H61 motherboard would overclock (definitely not as well as a P67 or Z68/Z77 model motherboard) and that might end up being pointless then if the motherboard will hold the CPU back from being overclocked effectively. You would also need a decent CPU cooler ($30 Cooler Master Hyper 212 Evo) for overclocking since it's likely you don't already have one.
Sikamikanico
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I think there was just...so much to read, it got a little overwhelming.
So you're saying a single 980 rather than dual GPUs?
Confrontation
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Wow. Thanks again for your great advice! I'll look into it and try to find a cheap card since money is indeed a serious problem at the moment.
Decide on the monitor situation first, im not the best to help on that one. Then we can configure a rig to power them.
Sikamikanico
#1 Dad
I'm thinking either this one because oooooh pretty.
http://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B00IKFH3K2/
This one for Gsync:
http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B00LBSZHAI/
Or - 3 of these!
http://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B00913GHTA/
Has anyone had any experience using PLP setup as opposed to LLL?
Rentahamster
Rodent Whores
Since I don't need my old parts anymore, I'll put them in a budget ATX case and give it to a friend.
Thinking of the NXT Source 210 $39
http://www.amazon.com/dp/B005869A7K/?tag=neogaf0e-20
Or the Silverstone PS11B-W $49
http://www.amazon.com/dp/B00S5V5C3Q/?tag=neogaf0e-20
The NXT seems like a decent value considering it was originally priced at more than double the price, but it is a case from 2011. Anyone have any thoughts?
Thinking of the NXT Source 210 $39
http://www.amazon.com/dp/B005869A7K/?tag=neogaf0e-20
Or the Silverstone PS11B-W $49
http://www.amazon.com/dp/B00S5V5C3Q/?tag=neogaf0e-20
The NXT seems like a decent value considering it was originally priced at more than double the price, but it is a case from 2011. Anyone have any thoughts?
I use the NZXT and it's pretty solid. No complaints. The front USB ports are upside down though lol
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