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"I Need a New PC!" 2016 Plus Ultra! HBM2, VR, 144Hz, and 4K for all!

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Sullichin

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Anyone have Zotac GTX1080 AMP! Edition?

I was getting some sudden, bad frame drops in Overwatch coupled with temps close to 80c. I uninstalled the zotac firestorm program and I'm using MSI afterburner instead, using default power settings and adjusted the fan curve so it ramps up a bit faster.

It seems fine now, no performance problems. Fans are loud though. Still gets to around 75-76 during benchmarks/games. Seems a little warm? For all of the "iced out quiet" marketing on the box this thing is pretty loud and warm, lol
 

kuYuri

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Is there a preferred out of these two? A 3rd option?

Flip a coin tbh. You're gonna get the same performance from either one more or less. It's mostly down to aesthetics between them. I've generally seen reviews lean towards the Asus for the slightly better build quality, but the Acer is still a super solid choice. You are getting premium monitors regardless.
 

Raw64life

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Not sure what to do with my Seagate 4TB HDD.

Put it in my build, copied all my files to it. The next day it disappeared from My Computer and showed up as failed on the diagnostics. So I formatted it and created a new volume and it's working again.

Is that considered fixing it or should I not risk it and just get a replacement?

Anyone?
 

Slayven

Member
The fury's were going for around $250 on newegg and other places not too long ago. I've picked it up and saw a ~20% increase over my 390. Its on an older architecture though and its only 4GB of VRAM.

edit: Newegg link

edit: Here's the UserBenchmark comparison. Not sure if anyone actually uses or trusts these though.

The Sapphire Nitro R9 Fury is what I'm using and I love it

What is the difference between the fury and the new RXs?
 
I'm not sure how fantastic of a brand PowerColor is, but if anybody is interested Newegg has the PowerColor RX 480 4GB on sale for $180 or if you have an Android phone with Android Pay you can use promo code "ANDROID6" in the Newegg app to drop it down to $165. Credit goes to Slickdeals.
 

Angry Grimace

Two cannibals are eating a clown. One turns to the other and says "does something taste funny to you?"
Okay guys, so my PC is getting a bit, erm, long in the tooth (it's an i7-920, so its pretty goddamn old) so I'm building a new rig.

I want to upgrade to the latest and greatest (I've never had a computer with a SSD!), but I guess I don't follow what's hot these days. What's the deal with this M.2 stuff? Is that something I specifically want over a regular old SATA SSD?
 

Primus

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Okay guys, so my PC is getting a bit, erm, long in the tooth (it's an i7-920, so its pretty goddamn old) so I'm building a new rig.

I'm in the same boat as you, finally looking at retiring my old i7-920 early next year, replacing it with a brand new Kaby Lake i7-7700.

I want to upgrade to the latest and greatest (I've never had a computer with a SSD!), but I guess I don't follow what's hot these days. What's the deal with this M.2 stuff? Is that something I specifically want over a regular old SATA SSD?

There's two different kinds of M.2, and which one your motherboard supports makes all the difference with speed. The older kind is still a SATA interface, so there's no real appreciable speed difference between it and a standard SSD. Newer mobos support NVM Express (NVME), which is a direct link to the PCI Express bus and comes with massive speed boosts. I built a rig for a friend earlier this year, i7-6700 with a Samsung 950 Pro 512GB NVME M.2, and that thing takes longer to get through the BIOS screen (about 3 seconds) than it does to get to the Windows 10 desktop (about 1.5 seconds).
 

Joco

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Exactly what GTX 1070 is this?

The graphs look ok, it seems the nasty points are where the fps is holding at 60 but the frametime is varying from 5-30ms. Thats whats causing the massive stuttering feeling.

Its either the game, you have an EVGA 1070?, some RAM issue which causes game to break at some random time.
In nvidia control panel, set the global settings to default. Set the game settings in nvidia control panel to follow global settings.

If this was a motherbaord issue i expect it would manifest in all games. With RAM issues it can be random depending on how the game handles it, and its memory allocation.

Have you dropped the memory frequency to 2133Mhz? Try giving the RAM a bit more voltage than spec. 1.3v should be plenty. If its rated at 1.35v, give it 1.37v.

Right now I'm running the dual-fan Asus 1070 (not the Strix). I previously had an EVGA 970 where the issue was also present, unfortunately upgrading didn't solve the issue.

I'll try adjusting the voltage when I get out of work later. I also picked up some new RAM, I'll swap it out and see if that does anything.

Thanks a million for the reply. Much appreciated.
 

iamblades

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Okay guys, so my PC is getting a bit, erm, long in the tooth (it's an i7-920, so its pretty goddamn old) so I'm building a new rig.

I want to upgrade to the latest and greatest (I've never had a computer with a SSD!), but I guess I don't follow what's hot these days. What's the deal with this M.2 stuff? Is that something I specifically want over a regular old SATA SSD?

As the poster above states, NVMe is what matters. IMO it's worth getting a small one as an OS drive, but regular SATA SSDs are going to be fast enough for most people's bulk storage drives, but NVMe offers more than just throughput, there are lots of features tailored for solid state storage that are built into the spec.

Also you can get regular form factor 2.5" NVMe SSDs, they can use the u.2 connector or the SATA express connector.
 

Mozendo

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What is the difference between the fury and the new RXs?

RX series uses AMD's latest architecture that has two notable improvements over that of previous architecture which are cooler temperatures and it's less power hungry. The Fury is a power hungry card and a hot card too but it performs below a 1070 and under $300.
 

Slayven

Member
RX series uses AMD's latest architecture that has two notable improvements over that of previous architecture which are cooler temperatures and it's less power hungry. The Fury is a power hungry card and a hot card too but it performs below a 1070 and under $300.

So go with the RX? But there seems to so many flavors, are there any brands and makers to stay way from?
 

ParityBit

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Flip a coin tbh. You're gonna get the same performance from either one more or less. It's mostly down to aesthetics between them. I've generally seen reviews lean towards the Asus for the slightly better build quality, but the Acer is still a super solid choice. You are getting premium monitors regardless.

Oh man. As simple as flipping a coin?? Hard decision.

Also how do non 21x9 games play on them?
 
So go with the RX? But there seems to so many flavors, are there any brands and makers to stay way from?

I bought the PowerColor RX 480 Red Devil 8GB and have had no issues out of it once I figured out which direction to flip the BIOS switch for overclock mode (toward the IO plate)... it was also the cheapest 8GB at the time.

Also, there is apparently a new driver coming out on the 8th that increases performance across the board an average of 10% for the 480... That means it will now perform better than the 1060 on average with DX12 and equal to it on DX11 for less cost.
 

luoapp

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Wow I did not know about this. Which version should I go for? I've been using windows 7 for a long time but my friend recommends I upgrade when I finish building my rig to windows 10.

Is it worth it and if it is, which version is best?

Win10 is fine. OTOH, Win 7 is just too old. All the versions are fine for personal use, imho. Also, see if you can still get the free upgrade from here http://www.howtogeek.com/265409/you...-for-free-from-microsofts-accessibility-site/ , worth a try at least.
 

ZBR

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It's been five years since I built my last PC and today I got all the parts to build one. I got an MSI B150M Bazooka mobo and the thermaltake core v21, I can't seem to find the freaking screws that I'm supposed to use to screw the mobo to the chassis. Am I supposed to buy my own or something?
 
It's been five years since I built my last PC and today I got all the parts to build one. I got an MSI B150M Bazooka mobo and the thermaltake core v21, I can't seem to find the freaking screws that I'm supposed to use to screw the mobo to the chassis. Am I supposed to buy my own or something?

Normally comes with the case, IIRC.
 

faint.

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It's been five years since I built my last PC and today I got all the parts to build one. I got an MSI B150M Bazooka mobo and the thermaltake core v21, I can't seem to find the freaking screws that I'm supposed to use to screw the mobo to the chassis. Am I supposed to buy my own or something?

Like the poster above me said, check the case, specifically a drive bay if you have one. They usually come in a small cardboard box with everything else.
 

R0ckman

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I have a question hopefully someone can answer? I have a NXZT S530 only about 6 months old, and the NXZT led on the front doesn't always light up. Its not broken as far I can tell but sometimes when I turn on the comp it will light up. It had stayed on while using the comp until recently when I hadn't used it in about a week and a half. Last time it started working again was when I took out some USB devices I wasnt using in the back. I'm wondering if its because I have it in a power surge that is 100% full? Its not completely off, it get VERY dim.
 

Celcius

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The build begins. As you'd expect, the monitor arrives at least a week before everything else. Typical.

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Nice! What model did you get?
 

z3phon

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Need help guys. I just got a Kraken X62 today and set it up with these Noctua fans I already had but when I boot up my systems the fans don't spin until I log in to windows and the CAM software launches.
I tried the stock fans that come with the X62 and that spins up as soon as my computer is powered on.
I'm using the Asus Z170 Deluxe motherboard, the kraken x62 is plugged in to the CPU_FAN. I was previously using the Corsair H115i with the exact same setup and fans without any issues.
 

Bloodember

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Need help guys. I just got a Kraken X62 today and set it up with these Noctua fans I already had but when I boot up my systems the fans don't spin until I log in to windows and the CAM software launches.
I tried the stock fans that come with the X62 and that spins up as soon as my computer is powered on.
I'm using the Asus Z170 Deluxe motherboard, the kraken x62 is plugged in to the CPU_FAN. I was previously using the Corsair H115i with the exact same setup and fans without any issues.

I have a X61 with those fans, but I have the Asus Z170I Pro gaming and actually had a similar issue. My fans started but the bios wouldn't recognize them at all. After some research it seems that Asus motherboards don't give 3.3v to the CPU_Fan header. Try it in a different header and see if that works. I fixed my issue by utilizing my built in Fan hub and plugging that into the CPU_FAN header. I'm pretty sure the Noctua fans may require more voltage.
 

Joco

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Exactly what GTX 1070 is this?

The graphs look ok, it seems the nasty points are where the fps is holding at 60 but the frametime is varying from 5-30ms. Thats whats causing the massive stuttering feeling.

Its either the game, you have an EVGA 1070?, some RAM issue which causes game to break at some random time.
In nvidia control panel, set the global settings to default. Set the game settings in nvidia control panel to follow global settings.

If this was a motherbaord issue i expect it would manifest in all games. With RAM issues it can be random depending on how the game handles it, and its memory allocation.

Have you dropped the memory frequency to 2133Mhz? Try giving the RAM a bit more voltage than spec. 1.3v should be plenty. If its rated at 1.35v, give it 1.37v.

I tried adjusting the voltage and memory frequency as you suggested, no luck. Even swapped in some new RAM with no change in the issue. If this is a hardware issue it's either the PSU or the motherboard as I've replaced everything else at this point. If it's a software issue I have no idea what.

Edit: I forgot about the CPU, but I don't think that's likely, right?
 

z3phon

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I have a X61 with those fans, but I have the Asus Z170I Pro gaming and actually had a similar issue. My fans started but the bios wouldn't recognize them at all. After some research it seems that Asus motherboards don't give 3.3v to the CPU_Fan header. Try it in a different header and see if that works. I fixed my issue by utilizing my built in Fan hub and plugging that into the CPU_FAN header. I'm pretty sure the Noctua fans may require more voltage.
I tried plugging it in CHA_FAN4 and had the same issue.
 

nightmare-slain

Gold Member
Stay away from Windows 10. Windows 7 is still the best Microsoft OS there is.

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I don't know what problems you are having but Windows 10 is running great for me. The big update last year started giving me a load of BSOD's but was fixed with a BIOS update to my motherboard. Other than that no issues since Windows 10 launched July last year. The anniversary update didn't cause me any problems either. I definitely wouldn't recommend someone to stick with Windows 7 especially not for gaming.
 
Why I wouldn't (and don't) install Windows 10 has been summarized here better than I could myself: https://itvision.***************/why-windows-10-sucks.html

It seems the site is for some reason shitlisted on GAF (it's alter vista org) and links don't work so insteadbut I would suggest going to the real source material and following on the links provided for the more outrageous looking stuff. Some of it has been fixed with the Anniversary Update, but the AU has been a royal pain in the ass alone for me. I actually said fuck it and wiped it off when AU managed to fuck up my system completely.

Windows 7 all the way for me.
 

Steiner84

All 26 hours. Multiple times.
OK, so im leaning towards getting a beefy PC again after several years.
Im not sure what to get becasue i dont have any clue of the market today..

A friend recommend this:

- Intel® Core™ i5-6600, Prozessor (FC-LGA4, "Skylake", boxed)
- Patriot DIMM 16GB DDR4-2133 Kit (PVE416G213C4KGY, Viper Elite)
- MSI B150 GAMING M3, Mainboard
- Palit GeForce GTX 1070 Gamerock, Grafikkarte (HDMI, 3x DisplayPort, DVI-D)
- Seasonic G-Series G-450, PC-Netzteil (2x PCIe)
- SanDisk Ultra II SSD 2,5" 240GB, Solid State Drive (SDSSDHII-240G-G25, SATA 600)
- Seagate ST2000DM006 2 TB, Festplatte (3,5 Zoll, SATA 600)

together for 1170€

what do you guys think about this?
 
OK, so im leaning towards getting a beefy PC again after several years.
Im not sure what to get becasue i dont have any clue of the market today..

A friend recommend this:

- Intel® Core™ i5-6600, Prozessor (FC-LGA4, "Skylake", boxed)
- Patriot DIMM 16GB DDR4-2133 Kit (PVE416G213C4KGY, Viper Elite)
- MSI B150 GAMING M3, Mainboard
- Palit GeForce GTX 1070 Gamerock, Grafikkarte (HDMI, 3x DisplayPort, DVI-D)
- Seasonic G-Series G-450, PC-Netzteil (2x PCIe)
- SanDisk Ultra II SSD 2,5" 240GB, Solid State Drive (SDSSDHII-240G-G25, SATA 600)
- Seagate ST2000DM006 2 TB, Festplatte (3,5 Zoll, SATA 600)

together for 1170€

what do you guys think about this?

If you were looking to make your PC more future proof, look into upgrading to 6600K, Z170 board and 3000MHz or 3200 MHz RAM. With a good cooler (Hyper 212 on budget, Noctua if you want the best) you could squeeze a lot more performance from the build. It would help your GTX 1070 and would prevent CPU bottlenecking in the future when you upgrade your GPU.
You would also need to get a better PSU, so figure out if 30% more CPU performance is worth to you.
 

ParityBit

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Unkle

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Nice! What model did you get?

The Acer Predator XB271HU. Got it for €565 which seems a bit of bargain when compared tosome of the prices I've seen bandied about.

Cooler, PSU, hard drive, RAM, CPU, Windows 10 USB all arrived today - the beginnings of a Christmas miracle. <3
 

ParityBit

Member
The Acer Predator XB271HU. Got it for €565 which seems a bit of bargain when compared tosome of the prices I've seen bandied about.

Cooler, PSU, hard drive, RAM, CPU, Windows 10 USB all arrived today - the beginnings of a Christmas miracle. <3

Congrats! :)
 
Stay away from Windows 10. Windows 7 is still the best Microsoft OS there is.

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I have been pretty happy with Windows 10. My only gripe is that the Windows Store is broken for me. I have free digital copies of Gears 4 and Forza Horizon 3 from buying them digitally on Xbox. I have been unable to get them to download fully. I am not the only one, check the 1 star reviews for Gears 4. It's more than 5 weeks later and people still can't play them. Thankfully I can still play them on my xbox.
 

Steiner84

All 26 hours. Multiple times.
If you were looking to make your PC more future proof, look into upgrading to 6600K, Z170 board and 3000MHz or 3200 MHz RAM. With a good cooler (Hyper 212 on budget, Noctua if you want the best) you could squeeze a lot more performance from the build. It would help your GTX 1070 and would prevent CPU bottlenecking in the future when you upgrade your GPU.
You would also need to get a better PSU, so figure out if 30% more CPU performance is worth to you.

ok thanks for your input.
I might consider that. ill check how much that would add.
so, i5 is good enough?
Also, i want this thing to be silent when im not gaming on it. I want to have it hooked up to a 4k TV and a still to be purchased monitor of unkown specs.
I take it that this PC would only use the 1070 for gaming purposes and use the cpu internal gpu for desktop use? So when i want to watch youtube videos on my TV with it, the GPU will not make extreme noise?

what monitor would you recommend?
im thinkg about 27", ive heard 144hz is the shit these days? Do i need G-sync? what resolution? FullHD seems a bit low.
 
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