DUFFMCWALIN
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The 850 EVO 250 GB is on sale for $90. Is it worth the hassle to move my windows install and set up dual hard drives? Right now I just have one 2 TB 7200 HDD.
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lostsupper
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If you're afraid of reinstalling, you're past due.
That's exactly what I'm running my 6700k at with the h100i gtx. Never goes above 70-80 on either core under load.
DUFFMCWALIN
Member
I just did an install in January. Think its worth just reinstalling everything?
And if thats the case then do I need to do anything to move my windows key? I haven't had to do that in years.
lostsupper
Banned
Yeah, just reinstall. You might have to phone into Microsoft to reauthorize your Windows key with new hardware, but it's a five minute procedure without any human interaction. Going to an SSD is more than worth the time it takes to reinstall.
This should be in the OP, "SSD is the single most effective way to speed up your PC", if you don't have one installed already.
DUFFMCWALIN
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Ok sounds good. Thanks for the help. I'll start making the move today.
Just realised I have a mini ITX case so probably not an option. Although the 5820k isn't much more expensive than a 6700k, I'll probably stick with the 6700k
Nyteshade517
Member
NCIX has the Define R5 case I was wanting for $85 and the case fans to match for $10 each. That would save me $40 based on how I was wanting to build.
Good deal?
edit: actually once shipping is factored in the savings pretty much go away...oh well
Good deal?
edit: actually once shipping is factored in the savings pretty much go away...oh well
opticalmace
Member
Gotcha. Your temps are fine, I wouldn't bother delidding.
It's a feature built into Windows so I don't think it could be.
chaosblade
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I don't suppose there is a nice ITX case with a 3rd expansion slot. That is probably the nichest of niches.
Probably means I will need to go with mATX instead if I change cases since I need at least 3 slots.
Probably means I will need to go with mATX instead if I change cases since I need at least 3 slots.
What country are you in? We can probably find local recommendations for you, especially if you can link us to a website that you prefer to order from. Geizhals.de (or geizhals.eu if you're not in Germany) is a great place to do comparison shopping for PC parts.
Which model do you have exactly? There are several different Sony TVs listed under the X850C product line.
Feel free to ask. If you want to cast a wider net for answers, consider asking in the GAF tech support thread as well.
Asking again, as I just sold my 3570k:
Can someone recommend a good value for money mini ITX skylake motherboard that supports overclocking (so that means Z170?) and what ram should go with it.
also what would be a good cooler for a bitfenix prodigy? Bearing in mind the clearance needed for the ram etc. It'd be going into a bitfenix prodigy. I currently use a h60i but the pump noise is a bit grating (everything else is silent if I'm just in Windows). Don't mind air or water. Case has a 230mm intake fan at the front and the h60 has a 120mm radiator with fan acting as exhaust. Will also have a custom 1070/1080 likely blowing into the case. Never had an issue with temps on the h60 even with the slightly warmer air going over the radiator.
Can someone recommend a good value for money mini ITX skylake motherboard that supports overclocking (so that means Z170?) and what ram should go with it.
also what would be a good cooler for a bitfenix prodigy? Bearing in mind the clearance needed for the ram etc. It'd be going into a bitfenix prodigy. I currently use a h60i but the pump noise is a bit grating (everything else is silent if I'm just in Windows). Don't mind air or water. Case has a 230mm intake fan at the front and the h60 has a 120mm radiator with fan acting as exhaust. Will also have a custom 1070/1080 likely blowing into the case. Never had an issue with temps on the h60 even with the slightly warmer air going over the radiator.
How does this look?
1 x Intel Core i7-6700K, 4x 4.00GHz, boxed without cooler (BX80662I76700K)
1 x GeIL Dragon RAM white IC DIMM kit 16GB, DDR4-3000, CL15-17-17-35 (GWW416GB3000C15DC)
1 x Gigabyte GA-Z170N-Gaming 5
1 x Noctua NH-D15
Yes, the Noctua NH-D15 will fit in the Bitfenix Prodigy mITX, but it is very cozy. I suppose if you wanted something smaller and/or cheaper then consider the Cooler Master 212 Evo (£26), the Cryorig H5 Universal (£33), the Noctua NH-U14S (£48), etc.
Thanks
Never heard of GeiL ram - is it decent? And there is a lower priced gigabyte motherboard (about £20 cheaper) but if the gaming 5 is better then that's fine.
Cooler I want quiet and good cooking more than cheap. I like noctua fans so if the NH-D15 is notably better than the hyper 212 I could go for that. Looking at those linked pics I wonder if it would have issues with my bluray drive in the top front?
Are there any good AIO water coolers that are quiet? They do save a lot of space around the motherboard area.
I completed my first gaming PC build this morning. It felt amazing to finish, turn the power on, and see it boot up for the first time. It was a little bit intimidating going in blind but everything worked out. I think it took me around 4 hours from start to finish which I know is pretty slow but I was taking my time and reading all of the manuals. I overclocked my CPU and RAM already and started messing around with MSI afterburner. Now I've been playing Overwatch for the past few hours and trying to figure out my best settings. I've got all the graphic settings turned up to ultra and my resolution set on 1080p 144. I'm averaging between 110-150 fps. Overall not too shabby for a first time build. It was a great learning experience and I'm sure I've only just begun.
It's XBR55X850C (or actually XBR55X8505C as it is Nordic model)
But I actually searched around a bit, and it seems TV's don't really handle custom resolutions that well. Guess it is better to just downsample the picture from 1440p to 1080p
is this normal on GPU usage?
im kinda worried about that fluctuation
Pretty odd, something running in the background?
Single or dual displays?
Well after a few hours tinkering my 6700k is happy at 4.7 and 1.4v. If I try for 4.8 it gets upset even at 1.42v and if I try and drop the voltage on 4.7 I get a core fail in prime but it doesn't crash the machine.
Only things I've poked so far are core voltage and llc though.
Also bought my first keyboard in 15 years, a Mionix Zibal MX Black. Only £50 from OCUK which is nice for a mechanical kb I think.
It's replacing this relic that I still love.
Also ordered some Bitfenix alchemy 2 cables to make myself up some 20cm extensions to add some pretty.
Still holding my finger over a basket of ekwb toys too.
Only things I've poked so far are core voltage and llc though.
Also bought my first keyboard in 15 years, a Mionix Zibal MX Black. Only £50 from OCUK which is nice for a mechanical kb I think.
It's replacing this relic that I still love.
Also ordered some Bitfenix alchemy 2 cables to make myself up some 20cm extensions to add some pretty.
Still holding my finger over a basket of ekwb toys too.
Geil should be fine. It's a lesser known brand, but they still offer lifetime warranty, and I don't think I've heard of any issues plaguing their products. The Z170N-Gaming 5 has USB 3.1 support that the Z170N-WIFI model lacks. If you want to see a comparison, take a look at Gigabyte's official comparison page.
The NH-D15 is huge and definitely a big step from the 212 Evo, it'll be very quiet even under load. That said, it will definitely conflict with an optical drive unless you move the outer fan to the other side. Maybe consider the Cryorig or the smaller Noctua NH-U14S coolers.
Sorry, I don't have much experience with water coolers. I recommended a Corsair H55 to my friend and I regretted it. It makes a bubbling noise like a fish tank air pump if I set the speed too high for the fan header that the pump is plugged into.
is this normal on GPU usage?
im kinda worried about that fluctuation
It's shifting up and down kind of frequently because it's trying to save power, I guess. It's not really going to be bad for the GPU, running at high usage will stress it more.
Zaraki_Kenpachi
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I can't decide if I want to upgrade my PC... It's been largely chugging along even with it being old as hell.
If you could fill out the questionnaire from the first post of this thread, that would help us figure out a complete list of recommendations. Does your friend need anything like keyboard, mouse, monitor, speakers, etc? Are there any parts from his old PC that he wants to keep?
ok ill have to get some of the information as i dont have it all right now
what i do know is that she doesn't need a monitor, mouse, keyboard, or speakers. and her current computer is a store bought dell gaming pc
she games but doesn't really play graphic heavy games. she needs a comp that can run the game well and be good enough to make/edit videos
appaws
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Start with the OP. Then people can answer more specific questions.
Those temps seem really high, even for a stock cooler, for just gaming.
The 212 Evo is the old standby for a reason, it is really good. I think they are clearing out the remaining stock of them now in favor of the 212X, cause I see them marked down to $25 at places.
appaws
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By "edit videos" what do you mean? Does she do it for a living or something where she needs a lot of power? Or just the odd Youtube video here and there, so a "good enough" rig for using premier or whatever would be fine?
Yeah I'm using geizhals (Germany). The Alpenföhns seem to be popular so I'm not sure if I should go with those or the 212
Any recommendations (other than those in the OP) for a mic? I'm using the Sennheiser 280 Pro Headphones and need something for communication in games, voice commands, and skype. I'd rather not spend a lot of money on it so whatever would give me the best quality for $50 or less.
lostsupper
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Counter opinion: Delid that Skylake chip. Your temps are fine but they could be 10-20 degrees Celsius cooler after a delid. You could have the same clock speed with with quieter fans, or you could probably get that 6700k moving faster.
Looking into buying a new graphics card soon. Does anybody know how much more the price of the 980 ti was over the 980 at launch? Is the same gap expected between the 1080 and 1080 ti? Thanks.
Kinda want to upgrade now but am willing to hold off if the price difference isn't usually terribly bad.
Kinda want to upgrade now but am willing to hold off if the price difference isn't usually terribly bad.
SirMossyBloke
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Hey guys. My friend finally installed his new cpu, an AMD 9590 I believe but hes not getting a picture now. If he takes out the CMOS battery and puts it back in and restarts he gets a picture and asks to run a bios setup or load with default settings. If he hits default it loads for a second then no picture again.
Any help? All the fans are working including the new 212 evo fan he bought.
Edit: somehow got it working. Not sure how but now windows is saying it can't boot up correctly and is trying to restore from a previous point. Just have a Windows logo now so I'm hoping it fixes itself.
Any help? All the fans are working including the new 212 evo fan he bought.
Edit: somehow got it working. Not sure how but now windows is saying it can't boot up correctly and is trying to restore from a previous point. Just have a Windows logo now so I'm hoping it fixes itself.
Well I'm pretty excited. After years of planning on buying a PC, going through all the different options in my head plus the daunting task of deciding what parts to buy, I've finally hit confirm order on all the parts except the graphics card which will be as soon as the AIB 1080's are released. Since I figured there wont be many other times I get to start from scratch like this and make every piece of this PC gel with each other, I decided to go all out and make it function and look as best as I could within reason. I had a lot of money saved up during this long wait.
Decided to go with a very monochrome black & white theme and I'm so fucking psyched to start building.
Motherboard:
MSI Z170A Krait Gaming 3X
CPU:
Intel Core i7-6700K
CPU Cooler:
Corsair H110i GT
RAM:
GeIL Super Luce White LED 8GB X 4
Cables:
CableMod Cable Kit - Black/White
PSU:
Corsair RM750X
Hard Disk Drive:
WD Blue 1TB Desktop
SSD
Samsung 850 EVO 2.5" 500GB
All inside the new Phanteks Enthoo Evolv ATX Glass Case:
Decided to go with a very monochrome black & white theme and I'm so fucking psyched to start building.
Motherboard:
MSI Z170A Krait Gaming 3X
CPU:
Intel Core i7-6700K
CPU Cooler:
Corsair H110i GT
RAM:
GeIL Super Luce White LED 8GB X 4
Cables:
CableMod Cable Kit - Black/White
PSU:
Corsair RM750X
Hard Disk Drive:
WD Blue 1TB Desktop
SSD
Samsung 850 EVO 2.5" 500GB
All inside the new Phanteks Enthoo Evolv ATX Glass Case:
Nyteshade517
Member
Quick question...
I'm looking to get a Fractal Design Define R5 case and would like to know if 2 intake fans on the front and 1 exhaust in the back would provide enough cooling to go along with a 212 EVO. The CPU would be a 6700K with maybe a small bit of OC in the future. The case comes with 2 fans and all I'd have to do is buy 1 more. Or should I have an intake fan on the bottom as well?
I'm looking to get a Fractal Design Define R5 case and would like to know if 2 intake fans on the front and 1 exhaust in the back would provide enough cooling to go along with a 212 EVO. The CPU would be a 6700K with maybe a small bit of OC in the future. The case comes with 2 fans and all I'd have to do is buy 1 more. Or should I have an intake fan on the bottom as well?
Shifty Capone1
Member
Well I'm pretty excited. After years of planning on buying a PC, going through all the different options in my head plus the daunting task of deciding what parts to buy, I've finally hit confirm order on all the parts except the graphics card which will be as soon as the AIB 1080's are released. Since I figured there wont be many other times I get to start from scratch like this and make every piece of this PC gel with each other, I decided to go all out and make it function and look as best as I could within reason. I had a lot of money saved up during this long wait.
Decided to go with a very monochrome black & white theme and I'm so fucking psyched to start building.
Motherboard:
MSI Z170A Krait Gaming 3X
CPU:
Intel Core i7-6700K
CPU Cooler:
Corsair H110i GT
RAM:
GeIL Super Luce White LED 8GB X 4
Cables:
CableMod Cable Kit - Black/White
PSU:
Corsair RM750X
Hard Disk Drive:
WD Blue 1TB Desktop
SSD
Samsung 850 EVO 2.5" 500GB
All inside the new Phanteks Enthoo Evolv ATX Glass Case:
Thatll look great. Mind linking your parts list? What was your price for all that?
DUFFMCWALIN
Member
I'm already up and running with my new SSD. Thanks for all of the help again everyone. A fresh install was a good idea. Clean out some shit.
The extra front one is more than enough. Unless you are doing severe overclocking, you shouldn't have to worry about cooling too much given how power/heat conscious current hardware is.
Confusion Illusion
Banned
So before I begin the process of replacing a hard drive, I opened up computer management and I notice this
There is System Reserved partition on Disk 1. All it says is Healthy, Active Primary Partition not sure why since there shouldn't be any kind of system files on that drive.
When I installed Windows 7 on the main drive, I did so without any other hard drive connected. I upgraded to Windows 10 a few weeks ago and I'm wondering if it added that System Reserved to that drive during the process. I'm just worried that this is going to be an issue. Any help would be appreciated. Thanks
There is System Reserved partition on Disk 1. All it says is Healthy, Active Primary Partition not sure why since there shouldn't be any kind of system files on that drive.
When I installed Windows 7 on the main drive, I did so without any other hard drive connected. I upgraded to Windows 10 a few weeks ago and I'm wondering if it added that System Reserved to that drive during the process. I'm just worried that this is going to be an issue. Any help would be appreciated. Thanks
camequipped
Member
All inside the new Phanteks Enthoo Evolv ATX Glass Case:
I have the regular one in grey and it's one of the best case I've ever built. Love it and is built like a tank. It looks amazing too and this is the first case my partner doesn't roll her eyes at lol.
I would go with the EKL Alpenföhn Matterhorn Pure (31). It costs nearly the same as the 212 Evo and 212X, but the six heatpipes allow it to perform somewhat better compared to the Cooler Master heatsinks' four heatpipe design.
I like Macrium Reflect's free version. The free version has been more than handy enough for my needs. The paid versions just add more features that aren't really necessary for home users.
I just use paper towels, even toilet paper sometimes. No special cloth is needed.
That's already pretty decent. If you look up reviews of the Define R5, they will test the case's temperature and airflow performance so you can get an idea of what sort of temperatures to expect. In any case, it's highly unlikely you'll need more fans unless you're running very hot temperatures for some reason (hot local climate, etc).
So before I begin the process of replacing a hard drive, I opened up computer management and I notice this
There is System Reserved partition on Disk 1. All it says is Healthy, Active Primary Partition not sure why since there shouldn't be any kind of system files on that drive.
When I installed Windows 7 on the main drive, I did so without any other hard drive connected. I upgraded to Windows 10 a few weeks ago and I'm wondering if it added that System Reserved to that drive during the process. I'm just worried that this is going to be an issue. Any help would be appreciated. Thanks
Unplug that hard drive and see if you can still boot. If you can't, then that means the bootloader is on that small partition of disk 1. Reconnect the hard drive and you'll be able to boot again.
Confusion Illusion
Banned
I'll try that. Thanks.
DUFFMCWALIN
Member
Somehow my ethernet controller broke when I did the fresh install. I don't see any drivers on Gigabyte's website and when I right click to search the internet for the drivers it can't find anything. Any ideas on how to get it to work?
lostsupper
Banned
Look on Gigabyte's support site for LAN driver.
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