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I recently made a rewatch of every Dragon Ball badass moment, and I never tought I'd have missed this one thing so much..



Master / wise and calm Goku was the best ever Goku version, so sad to see is totally gone in Super, to make place for that childish, idiotic version of it

Would make a shit ton of sense now that he's walking toward full ui mastering

Moments like this made you feel how freakin' unbelieveable this guy was in the show, and to other characters
Something they only barely touched with Blue in front of Gods, then with UI, but still a really stupid Goku for the other 99%
 
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Even in DBZA Goku is retarded, but autistically Rain Man when it comes to fighting.
This


Goku has always been pretty stupid outside of combat, but when things got serious he just had this badass attitude

Even that Trunks scene today would be " oh lol lol I just risked being beheaded hahaahhhahaha 😁😁😁"

In that dbz scene instead, he looked god only knows how much stronger than before, and perfectly in control of basically everything
 

Great Hair

Banned
Used to follow an abridged version of Juan Piss. Instead of watching 800? episodes, they made them shorter, by removing fillers and other garbage. Forgot the name of it, is there one for the Dragonball series (complete)?
 

T8SC

Gold Member
Used to follow an abridged version of Juan Piss.

Juan Piss?

Is that per hour or ... ?

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Master / wise and calm Goku was the best ever Goku version, so sad to see is totally gone in Super, to make place for that childish, idiotic version of it

Would make a shit ton of sense now that he's walking toward full ui mastering

Moments like this made you feel how freakin' unbelieveable this guy was in the show, and to other characters
Something they only barely touched with Blue in front of Gods, then with UI, but still a really stupid Goku for the other 99%


Watch it in English goku is less of a retard. I can’t stand Japanese goku because of how retarded he is
 

Soodanim

Gold Member


Master / wise and calm Goku was the best ever Goku version, so sad to see is totally gone in Super, to make place for that childish, idiotic version of it

Would make a shit ton of sense now that he's walking toward full ui mastering

Moments like this made you feel how freakin' unbelieveable this guy was in the show, and to other characters
Something they only barely touched with Blue in front of Gods, then with UI, but still a really stupid Goku for the other 99%

It’s easy to forget, but you’re absolutely right.

I enjoyed Super for what it was, but everything feels like post-game content at this point. The real stories have been told in DB through Z, and now it’s just the eternal power creep.

Someone posted a DB thread to talk about the newer manga, which I hadn’t heard of, and I replied saying it sounded like fan fiction. The only thing I think is interesting is that they seem to be moving away from the Vegeta forever chasing Goku cycle and making them take different paths to new power. At least that will be something different.

Still, none of that changes Goku’s character change over time. Toriyama must have just forgotten what Goku was like, as by his own admission he forgot loads of it all.
 

bitbydeath

Gold Member
Still, none of that changes Goku’s character change over time. Toriyama must have just forgotten what Goku was like, as by his own admission he forgot loads of it all.
He really does.
Do you write down notes anywhere for that sort of background information?
No, I don’t do that. That’s why I keep on forgetting things. If I don’t forget stuff, new ideas won’t come to mind. For example, you know how there’s “Super Saiyan 3”?

Yes. Where the hair gets long.
I didn’t know that. (laughs) The whole time, I thought that was “Super Saiyan 2”. (laughs)

Whaaa?!
And I drew that myself. (laughs) Anyhow, I thought “2” was the one with long hair. It was like, “Man, I’ve really forgotten stuff…”.

Poor Launch also forgotten.
 
It’s easy to forget, but you’re absolutely right.

I enjoyed Super for what it was, but everything feels like post-game content at this point. The real stories have been told in DB through Z, and now it’s just the eternal power creep.

Someone posted a DB thread to talk about the newer manga, which I hadn’t heard of, and I replied saying it sounded like fan fiction. The only thing I think is interesting is that they seem to be moving away from the Vegeta forever chasing Goku cycle and making them take different paths to new power. At least that will be something different.

Still, none of that changes Goku’s character change over time. Toriyama must have just forgotten what Goku was like, as by his own admission he forgot loads of it all.
Vegeta's evolution is the best thing Super made, regarding individual characters
Shortly after, Gohan finally back being somewhat relevant

Vegeta now feels like Goku was in Z, is more interested in its developement as a warrior, and right now it feels more like a Master than he ever was
 

Has anyone been reading the latest manga of DB super? You can read them all at the above link.

They did another arc with a power absorbing / person eating character called Moro. Was very much like the Buu saga but now with Ultra Instinct.

Now they've moved into Goku and Vegeta training to be Angels/ God of Destruction.
 

kunonabi

Member
Vegeta's evolution is the best thing Super made, regarding individual characters
Shortly after, Gohan finally back being somewhat relevant

Vegeta now feels like Goku was in Z, is more interested in its developement as a warrior, and right now it feels more like a Master than he ever was
A small powerup does not make Gohan relevant.
 
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JeremyEtcetera

Unconfirmed Member
The serious, master fighter Goku that you want exists, but only in the Xeno timeline.

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He's also a time cop.

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And his peak is SSJ4

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People confuse him with GT Goku because of this, but GT Goku was still a goofball.
 
A small powerup does not make Gohan relevant.
In both the anime and manga combined, more in the latter where's pretty darn strong and on par with Kefla, they went straight to the point I wanted: he regularly trains again
It was impossible to do worse than in RoF, but still, knowing they need no more excuses to bring him in some good action is really comfortable

Not being retired anymore is enough for me, for now
 
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Rufy is worse. It wasn't smart at the beginning of the manga, but now he's basically a manga version of Homer.
Rufy is always supposed to be like this, perfectly in character, he was like this since One Piece started

On the other way, Goku always had his funny moments, but outside of battles, and very very rarely on the battlefield, for the 99% of its time in battle was a master fighter and strategist, he got serious pretty quickly

Things went to shit when they started turning it into a buffoon 24/7, he went from serious when necessary to always idiot
 
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