Danny Dudekisser
I paid good money for this Dynex!
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I wish all controllers used AA or AAA instead of having built in batteries.
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100% - this is the right way to do it.
Kataploom
Gold Member
This may sound weird for many people but yes, I currently do... Or at least I wish controllers had easily swappable batteries.
I was against the idea of AA batteries before I got myself a pair of rechargeable ones for my Xbox controller, but after being able play 100% of the time wireless without having to worry about controller battery dying I feel like whenever I play with my Switch controller it's kind of a downgrade, because I don't pay attention to battery all the time, so sometimes I have to rely on cable while charging which feels less comfortable, instead of leaving a pair charging and swapping it every two days "just in case", and if I forgot to swap the batteries preemptively and the battery dies, then I just have to swap it for the other pair and continue as if nothing happened.
Really a game changer on controller autonomy comfort IMO, you probably will think it's absurd until you try it as I did.
I was against the idea of AA batteries before I got myself a pair of rechargeable ones for my Xbox controller, but after being able play 100% of the time wireless without having to worry about controller battery dying I feel like whenever I play with my Switch controller it's kind of a downgrade, because I don't pay attention to battery all the time, so sometimes I have to rely on cable while charging which feels less comfortable, instead of leaving a pair charging and swapping it every two days "just in case", and if I forgot to swap the batteries preemptively and the battery dies, then I just have to swap it for the other pair and continue as if nothing happened.
Really a game changer on controller autonomy comfort IMO, you probably will think it's absurd until you try it as I did.
Hawking Radiation
Member
Use a wired controller.
If its wireless, connect a USB cable. Problem solved.
Dunno why people fuck around with batteries.
If its wireless, connect a USB cable. Problem solved.
Dunno why people fuck around with batteries.
Itchy Tickles
Member
Personally i prefer rechargeable batteries, especially as it means I can still use the controller plugged in while charging with no interruptions. I hate having to switch batteries constantly.
Now that being said, if built-in rechargable batteries would last longer and maybe we're easily replaceable, then I think that would be a win win.
I am honestly done with AA and AAA batteries.
Now that being said, if built-in rechargable batteries would last longer and maybe we're easily replaceable, then I think that would be a win win.
I am honestly done with AA and AAA batteries.
If you cannot manage a few rechargeable batteries than what can you manage. Keep the flats and fully charged seperate.
It's more inconvenient finding a freed up cable not busy charging a phone than it is putting 4 battiers into a charger.
Based on scientific studies
Environmental Impact Assessment and End-of-Life Treatment Policy Analysis for Li-Ion Batteries and Ni-MH Batteries - PMC
Based on Life Cycle Assessment (LCA) and Eco-indicator 99 method, a LCA model was applied to conduct environmental impact and end-of-life treatment policy analysis for secondary batteries. This model evaluated the cycle, recycle and waste treatment ...
pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov
Sure, possibly in terms of toxicity of lithium vs Ni but heavy metals aren't great either. Plus that assumes you can't recycle them and you're just letting lithium and Nickel out somewhere where living things are?
An example of Eco-indicator 99 scores for different types of batteries. Lower score means lower environmental impact:
Li-ion is better than everything else.
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Quest3 controllers last very long just with one battery in each.
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I kinda agree with the OP in the idea that the batteries, regardless of type, should be EASILY replaceable. The dual shock 3 is a damn nightmare to take apart and put back together if you need to swap the battery out which is inevitable. I still rock the 360 controller on steam because (a) it's goated, (b) batteries swapped out easily.
TropicanaTwista
Member
I've always found this take absolutely crazy. Almost nothing works like that anymore. From a phone, portable gaming device, laptop, tablet etc. everything is rechargable. Why would I want to waste money on batteries when I can just plug it in and recharge up?
The only somewhat logical argument is it is more annoying if the internal battery dies, but I have literally never had that happen to me. Even then, it's not worth the hassle of batteries. I'm glad that era of swapping out batteries is long gone
The only somewhat logical argument is it is more annoying if the internal battery dies, but I have literally never had that happen to me. Even then, it's not worth the hassle of batteries. I'm glad that era of swapping out batteries is long gone
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Yeah, the only thing I agree with the OP on is that the battery should be easily accessible on every device. Especially on a device that doesn't require and doesn't have a good IP rating (waterproof) but regular AA batteries are not the answer. They're cumbersome, have low energy density and are generally bulky. I'm still surprised that the world hasn't come up with a standardised flat Li-ion design akin to the AA battery from 1907 that can be used in the newer much flatter devices of today. Shows how shit we are at working together nowadays I guess.
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ArtHands
Thinks buying more servers can fix a bad patch
One of the worst things of PSVR2 is its controllers with no AA batteries. If the PSVR2 controllers are drained, you have to stop playing and charge them
If your quest 3 controllers are drained, just swap in a new charged pair of AA batteries and continue playing
DoubleClutch
Gold Member
Based on scientific studies
Li ion batteries are better for the environment.Environmental Impact Assessment and End-of-Life Treatment Policy Analysis for Li-Ion Batteries and Ni-MH Batteries - PMC
Based on Life Cycle Assessment (LCA) and Eco-indicator 99 method, a LCA model was applied to conduct environmental impact and end-of-life treatment policy analysis for secondary batteries. This model evaluated the cycle, recycle and waste treatment ...
Sure, possibly in terms of toxicity of lithium vs Ni but heavy metals aren't great either. Plus that assumes you can't recycle them and you're just letting lithium and Nickel out somewhere where living things are?
An example of Eco-indicator 99 scores for different types of batteries. Lower score means lower environmental impact:
Li-ion is better than everything else.
Anybody can search for decades and older papers that reach all sort of conclusions in a rapidly changing, highly charged topic as electrification.
EVs are a whole different animal. We’re not using NiMH batteries to push their own weight which is heavier in all sorts of climates and temperatures that reduce their life. Cobalt and Lithium mining is some of the most environmentally unfriendly and unethical mining out there in terms of the worst offenders, but it has better applications in EVs.
We’re talking about batteries in small electronics. Eneloops are some of the least offending out there in terms of toxicity and environmental impact.
ZVWQP-9B8TM-VH9CT
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It blows my mind there are bots crying about controllers with AA batteries because they never heard there are rechargeable AA batteries.
...different story if its just you and 4 batteries for a controller. I had/have 50+ eneloops. And a couple kids.
And all I said was it wasn't the utopia at the end as it was in the beginning. I managed for 15 years.
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Crayon
Member
Either is fine but both need a fix to make me really happy.
For AA's: Let me charge them in the controller. Flipping batteries in an out of chargers gets annoying. I do plenty of it.
For built-ins: Make the battery easy to access and replace. This should be such a braindead operation. Seriously. A panel with one little screw. That's all I want.
For AA's: Let me charge them in the controller. Flipping batteries in an out of chargers gets annoying. I do plenty of it.
For built-ins: Make the battery easy to access and replace. This should be such a braindead operation. Seriously. A panel with one little screw. That's all I want.
So show me some newer papers that have a lower LCA score for Nickel metal hybrids. You can even use newer LCA methodology like ReCiPe.
none of the papers are EV related. Only the chart is but what you're seeing is the same effect in all LCA studies of Li-ion for any use. energy density is higher on Li Ion. Meaning you have to mine less, have to ship less, have to recycle less have to use less material especially if you dont have to make it the AA form factor. NiMH are not more environmentally friendly. If you have actual scientific studies that show otherwise I would love to read them.
Not true. Eneloops (a precharged NiMH battery) are only good in that panasonic/sanyo charge them via solar energy but NiMH is not environmentally friendly in comparison to Li-ion.
ZoukGalaxy
Member
Totally agree, we should be able to put AA/AAA batteries in all our controllers and be able to buy a li-ion battery pack easily removable, like in standard Xbox controllers, if we don't want to use AA/AAA, that's really the best of both worlds.
I really hope that Europe somedays will take care of this problem like they doing it for phones batteries.
I really hope that Europe somedays will take care of this problem like they doing it for phones batteries.
BlackTron
Member
OP is correct. I use AA batteries for a variety of basic items including controllers. Everything takes the same battery, and I'm never stuck with a controller with a dead battery that has to be plugged in because I can just replace them with other recharged batteries I've been using since 360.
The battery itself is a replaceable item and not a liability in my controller that boosts the price.
Wavebird and 360 are GOAT especially because 360 doesn't drop connection like the Series pad. We are lucky these controllers just took bog standard batteries.
That being said it's not like built in battery is total trash. The main benefit is that you can't have a completely dead controller because you failed to maintain other recharged batteries, but when this rarely happens I'll just fill the gap with a normal battery. It would also become difficult to keep track of your valuable rechargable batteries in controllers if they are liable to end up inside random dollar store toys.
The battery itself is a replaceable item and not a liability in my controller that boosts the price.
Wavebird and 360 are GOAT especially because 360 doesn't drop connection like the Series pad. We are lucky these controllers just took bog standard batteries.
That being said it's not like built in battery is total trash. The main benefit is that you can't have a completely dead controller because you failed to maintain other recharged batteries, but when this rarely happens I'll just fill the gap with a normal battery. It would also become difficult to keep track of your valuable rechargable batteries in controllers if they are liable to end up inside random dollar store toys.
Mibu no ookami
Demoted Member® Pro™
I will barely buy product these days if they require batteries. The only exceptions I generally make are devices that require watch batteries but last an enormous amount of time.
Effigenius
Member
Well start playing with toys for older kids then.
marquimvfs
Member
If that happens, I would be happy with moving to AA batteries. Otherwise, no.
FreeY$L
Member
Having disposable batteries in controllers adds more fault-points to an already flimsy accessories. You risk corrosion of contact points among other things, plus, the current lineup of controllers last all generation. My Ps3 dualshocks still work, they’re beat up to hell but they still hold a full charge since 2009. Its surprising because no one is playing these old consoles anymore, so its not a knock on the dualsense if in 10 years the controllers dont work, they served their purpose in the time they were supposed to.
alphachino
Member
IKEA batteries are said to come from the same [formerly] Sanyo (Now Panasonic) factories in Japan as Eneloop/Eneloop Pros. When you put them side-by-side, they look and feel identical
TintoConCasera
I bought a sex doll, but I keep it inflated 100% of the time and use it like a regular wife
Yeah agree, love me rechargeable batteries.
That's your own fault. Build in wouldn't have made a difference. Also build in batteries can leak if you don't use them.
Zathalus
Member
Microsoft and 8bitDo have the right way. Swappable rechargeable pack that you can swap with batteries if you so wish. Microsoft should improve by including the swappable battery pack with the controller as the default, rather than making it an optional extra purchase.
This approach gives you the flexibility of both worlds, with the only negative being slightly more space needed for the swappable battery.
This approach gives you the flexibility of both worlds, with the only negative being slightly more space needed for the swappable battery.
Omnipunctual Godot
Gold Member
I just replaced the battery in one of my PS5 controllers with a higher-capacity battery. It's incredibly easy and inexpensive.
DoubleClutch
Gold Member
Did you buy a knock off? I bet it’s not the rated capacity.
Even so, how do I source a legitimate battery easily?
SEGAvangelist
Member
People who disagree with the OP don't game enough. I wish I could put some damn AAs in my DualSense. Charging blows.
Wolves hunt in packs
Member
Not sure what i prefer, while the Xbox controller i have last longer before needing to charge, i also like bulit in, i just charge them every other day so no big deal either way for me.
Omnipunctual Godot
Gold Member
A knockoff? It's a battery, dude. It lasts longer than the original did.
Antwix
Member
I think I bought my eneloops around 2010 after the play and charge kit thing died on my 360. I've had the same eneloops since. I've had the ikea laddas for several years too which are just as good. I remember replaying a bunch of the dark souls games and sekiros last year and the batteries lasted each game without a charge. Pretty damn good after all these years.
I'm pretty indifferent when it comes to this though. With the rechargeable internal batteries, you can play and charge at the same time. But if you don't have any AAs charged, you're stuck with a wired controller. They take awhile to charge too. Pros and cons to each.
I'm pretty indifferent when it comes to this though. With the rechargeable internal batteries, you can play and charge at the same time. But if you don't have any AAs charged, you're stuck with a wired controller. They take awhile to charge too. Pros and cons to each.
DoubleClutch
Gold Member
This is a completely foolish way to look at the safety of batteries.
soulbait
Member
That's not grain coming from the Sony Mavica's, but noise. Easily to reproduce digitally, because it is digital noise. Film grain is harder to reproduce well, because it is random and each strip film will be different.Because it's cool af. I like especially sony flopyp disk cameras and I love the grainy quality of photos. Different vibe.
I also have some digicamslate 90s/early 2000s that can capture nightvision pics in complete darkness. Examples below too
Just a bit of my "collection". It's few months old pic. it was meant to be only Floppy disk stuff but grew. I had to put breaks on it because I don't have room for this
Stuff goes from 0.3mp to 5mp
However, if you like it, you like it. You do you man!
Omnipunctual Godot
Gold Member
Sure, dude.
Watch out, iFixit, battery expert Double Clutch would like a word.
PlayStation DualSense Controller Battery
Replace a battery compatible with a PlayStation DualSense controller.
www.ifixit.com
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Grildon Tundy
Member
So I bought rechargeable AAs because of this thread. Amazon said they delivered them, but they weren't at my house 15 minutes after I got the "delivered" notice.
World's fastest pirates? Amazon slip-up?
Give your AAs an extra hug today, lads.
World's fastest pirates? Amazon slip-up?
Give your AAs an extra hug today, lads.
BlackTron
Member
A man from a simpler time, a time before wireless might have less lag than wired. A time when we could have faith in simple truths, and need not question everything around us.
AlphaMale
Member
Another stupid thread about having physical AA/AAA batteries on a controller...
Here's my opinion. Built-in batteries are SUPERIOR in every way!
-lighter controller
-no looking for batteries, or forgetting to charge them ahead of time
-just a cable to charge, so you can just have it permanently plugged in, if you so choose
-...and the biggest lame argument for built-in batteries..."what if the battery dies, and no longer holds a charge?"...I've had countless controllers since the PS3 and *none* have died during the use of the respective console. And if the battery does die, then it's fairly easy to buy a new one on Temu or AliExpress and replace it yourself.
Here's my opinion. Built-in batteries are SUPERIOR in every way!
-lighter controller
-no looking for batteries, or forgetting to charge them ahead of time
-just a cable to charge, so you can just have it permanently plugged in, if you so choose
-...and the biggest lame argument for built-in batteries..."what if the battery dies, and no longer holds a charge?"...I've had countless controllers since the PS3 and *none* have died during the use of the respective console. And if the battery does die, then it's fairly easy to buy a new one on Temu or AliExpress and replace it yourself.