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If i tried Ecstacy once.. Would there be any adverse affects?

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Hitman

Edmonton's milkshake attracts no boys.
I want to try ecstacy... I was wondering what the effects were. Will doing it once fuck you up in any way or is it relativly safe.
 

Flynn

Member
As with most drugs, even one dose can alter the balance of seratonin and/or dopamine in your brain. It's not a life or death situation, but it's something to think about.

If you do try it, remember not to overhydrate. It's a myth that you need to drink TONS of water. Drink the same about you usually would (maybe a little more) and if you don't pee, don't keep drinking.
 
With most people, doing it once is not life-threatening. There are exceptions, though, in which the effects can be noticeable. Death from 1 time is extremely rare, though I've heard of it.

* My advice is not to do it.

* If not that, then read up as much as you can about it before doing it (and don't conduct your entire research on the GA forums - we can be stupid sometimes).

* If not that, then do it with people who you trust and who can make the experience a safe one for you - meaning that they'll watch out for you, make sure you're hydrated, etc.

* If not that, then at least do not do it with the intent of scoring with anyone. Sex while rolling can mess up non-rolling sex experiences (i.e. it won't be as good).

* If not that, then... well... whatever. :)

~Cris
 

Blackace

if you see me in a fight with a bear, don't help me fool, help the bear!
Ever time you use x it makes a small pin sized hole in your brain.. so I'd say stay away...
 
Hitman said:
I want to try ecstacy...

I think you should worry more about your problem with peer pressure than the effects of a drug. I don't understand how anyone could want to do it, at least not the first time. Addiction is a given afterwards.

EDIT: Actually what I was trying to imply was not that you're going to get addicted after the first go, but rather when you are addicted your want for it is a given. I phrased it wrong, sorry about that.
 

Triumph

Banned
DarthWufei said:
I think you should worry more about your problem with peer pressure than the effects of a drug. I don't understand how anyone could want to do it, at least not the first time. Addiction is a given afterwards.
WTF? Yeah. It's a "given".
 

8bit

Knows the Score
DarthWufei said:
I think you should worry more about your problem with peer pressure than the effects of a drug. I don't understand how anyone could want to do it, at least not the first time. Addiction is a given afterwards.

Bullshit.
 

Tim

Member
DarthWufei said:
I think you should worry more about your problem with peer pressure than the effects of a drug. I don't understand how anyone could want to do it, at least not the first time. Addiction is a given afterwards.

A lot of people here are prejudiced against things they know nothing about. Please don't give the guy advice if you yourself should be the one receiving it.
As for the original question - it's relatively safe. Just don't take too much the first time. I've tried it once (I have an older brother who looks after me and is way more experienced), and as long as you stick to one pill (half a pill then hour and a half later another half), you'll be fine trust me. Just don't drink alcohol with it, especially not the first time. And, like said, be sure to drink enough water.
The effect is most excellent imo. But like I said I've only tried it once and will never do it unless there's some kind of special festival or party. Don't try it on a regular night out, you might become addicted more easily if you do. But as far as addiction goes, I dn't know much when it comes to xtc.
It helps a lot if you have friends whom you can trust that can help you with it. But the most important things to keep in mind is that you shouldn't take more than one pill (even when you have the feeling it's not working) and that you should drink enough water.
 

shibbs

Member
You can try and you will probably like it, which makes you wanna do it again next time. You are gonna use it at a party right? Not at home or something. Most people dont know what feeling xtc gives you, people who never tried cant give their opinion imo. Just do it with people you thrust and easy on the pills. Dont pop in another one when you think the feeling is gone. And xtc isnt like weed for example which strikes you and youre stoned, xtc comes up very slowly, sometimes you dont even notice it (untill some point probably).
Have fun :)
 

Willco

Hollywood Square
As a person who has never tried it and never will, I'm pretty sure there are always adverse affects with drugs.
 

Tim

Member
Willco said:
As a person who has never tried it and never will, I'm pretty sure there are always adverse affects with drugs.

Nah not really, none noticeable anyway. It's the same as with alcohol really - if you drink a lot you'll start damaging your brain, but if you control the amount of alcohol you're drinking, you're just fine.
 

Tuvoc

Member
yes, there will be adverse effects....It'll make you want to...
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Blackace

if you see me in a fight with a bear, don't help me fool, help the bear!
Tim said:
Nah not really, none noticeable anyway. It's the same as with alcohol really - if you drink a lot you'll start damaging your brain, but if you control the amount of alcohol you're drinking, you're just fine.

Wrong! Now alcohol (or almost anything we put in our bodies for pleasure) isn't good for you. But XTC is one of the most damaging drugs you can put in your body. Not only does it attack the liver, but it also does unrepairable damage to your brain every time you use it. As someone who was around drugs (using a little, dealing too much) a lot in my youth, I know the effects really well... The scarier thing than just the normal effects that XTC has on your body is you have no idea what you are taking when you take a pill of XTC. XTC itself in the powder form cannot be pressed into a tablet, meaning it has to be cut with something in order to do so... Now this could be baking soda, coke, heroin, flour, aspirin, and so on... now most chemist are not going to waste money cutting XTC with another drug (unless markets are really competitive), however, there is still no way to tell how pure your XTC tablet is...

Most likely you'll have a great time and never really notice the effects. But taking XTC often will lead to short term memory lose and other short comings regarding a person's health...which doesn't sound that bad now... but trust me it is pretty lame...
 

DCharlie

And even i am moderately surprised
Well, i`ve seen friends have problems with drugs (E specifically) and drink, and i can safely say that the problems with Drink (health and social) were much much worse than the ones with E.

I hear you can have a really good time on E and Drink, you just have to treat it right.

"A lot of people here are prejudiced against things they know nothing about"

You`re winner.
 

Blackace

if you see me in a fight with a bear, don't help me fool, help the bear!
DCharlie said:
Well, i`ve seen friends have problems with drugs (E specifically) and drink, and i can safely say that the problems with Drink (health and social) were much much worse than the ones with E.

I hear you can have a really good time on E and Drink, you just have to treat it right.

"A lot of people here are prejudiced against things they know nothing about"

You`re winner.

Well most people see the effects of E before they see the effects of the bottle... But Hey DC we can quit drinking anytime we want...right?...right??? GIVE ME BACK MY BOTTLE B@TCH!!!!
 

Alcibiades

Member
Tim said:
A lot of people here are prejudiced against things they know nothing about. Please don't give the guy advice if you yourself should be the one receiving it.
As for the original question - it's relatively safe. Just don't take too much the first time. I've tried it once (I have an older brother who looks after me and is way more experienced), and as long as you stick to one pill (half a pill then hour and a half later another half), you'll be fine trust me. Just don't drink alcohol with it, especially not the first time. And, like said, be sure to drink enough water.
The effect is most excellent imo. But like I said I've only tried it once and will never do it unless there's some kind of special festival or party. Don't try it on a regular night out, you might become addicted more easily if you do. But as far as addiction goes, I dn't know much when it comes to xtc.
It helps a lot if you have friends whom you can trust that can help you with it. But the most important things to keep in mind is that you shouldn't take more than one pill (even when you have the feeling it's not working) and that you should drink enough water.

"Please don't give the guy advice if you yourself should be the one receiving it."

I think the same could be said about you..

To the FIRST POSTER:

dude, the fact is, nobody can give you accurate advice because everybody responds different to substances...

the same dose of the same substance could have two different people reacting different (even if neither had done drugs)...

the drug will do irreperable damage at some point (that is not in question according to educated scientists), but it really depends on the individual...

It's your choice whether to go through with this of course, but don't think that you can get advice from someone that is young and doing it because a lot of these effects have been proven to be long term, like when you reach 40, 50, etc... (whether it's one dose or a heavy user, there will be an effect, the question is to what extent, and that depends on the individual)...
 

Flynn

Member
Actually much of the "official" research on ecstasy is false.

Turns out that they were accidentally studying crank (Methamphetamines) not Ecstasy.

This Wired story explains.
 

Alcibiades

Member
Flynn said:
Actually much of the "official" research on ecstasy is false.

Turns out that they were accidentally studying crank (Methamphetamines) not Ecstasy.

This Wired story explains.


"Ricaurte and his colleagues say the retracted study is an isolated case and does not call into question any of their previous work on MDMA, including studies that found the drug damages neurons that control serotonin, which controls mood."


so isolated case = much?

even the retracters admit it will damage your brain...

"But it turns out the researchers gave the primates -- the subjects in the experiment -- doses of methamphetamine instead of ecstasy. The researchers later discovered that a methamphetamine bottle was labeled as ecstasy and vice versa.

Ricaurte discovered the error after repeatedly trying to duplicate the results. After several unsuccessful attempts, he became suspicious that something was amiss. "


they took back the results from that one case after they discovered a labeling mistake, quite different from "much of the research" you are referring to...
 

DCharlie

And even i am moderately surprised
Blackace - given our meet ups usually result in the consumption of at least 1 litre of Whiskey, i`d suggest that is probably more deadly than the Es!

But yeah - be careful what you get. Some badly cut coke (cut with too much heroin) led to the death of 12 people and 6 people in a coma in Tokyo a week or two back.
 

DCharlie

And even i am moderately surprised
"You're a fucking idiot for even doing it once. I don't care what the defenders say about it."

explain to me why?
 

Blackace

if you see me in a fight with a bear, don't help me fool, help the bear!
DCharlie said:
Blackace - given our meet ups usually result in the consumption of at least 1 litre of Whiskey, i`d suggest that is probably more deadly than the Es!

-And that's on a work night!!! =) -

But yeah - be careful what you get. Some badly cut coke (cut with too much heroin) led to the death of 12 people and 6 people in a coma in Tokyo a week or two back.

This is the biggest danger of Ex in the short run... however having pinsized holes in my brain every time I use isn't fun also...
 

Gattsu25

Banned
aoi tsuki said:
That's neither cocky nor funny. :(


blunt and to the point, yes.

I see it the same way as people who start smoking in their 40s. They know it fucks them up but they still do. I mean, what you do to yourself is your own damn business and no one treats their bodies like they should, but knowing the effects of a drug and still doing them isn't the wisest thing.

Of course, being blind to the effects (or willfully ignorant [ flynn]) is another thing...but the fact that he's asking how major the effects are hints that he knows thee are negative effects down the road
 
Wow, there's a lot of ignorance here. First of all, trying ecstasy once does NOT do permanent damage to your brain. If you do it often and without much space between usage, then yes, you could definitely screw up the balance in your brain. Check out sites like www.Erowid.org if you want to be informed about the pros and cons of a specific drug. According to this site, a very small percentage (2 per 100 000) have extreme negative reactions to the drug resulting in death. Take that into consideration.

Some side effect during the trip are jaw clenching, teeth grinding, and nystagmus. For the first two, bring some gum along. You'll be glad you did. The nystagmus doesn't always happen and it's not bad when it does, but you might want to know about it so you don't get freaked out.

After usage, you'll likely have trouble going to sleep for a day or two due to E's amphetamine effect. This is very annoying and probably the worst side effect of the drug (for me anyway; I've just done it once, taking two pills). The deppression that's often talked about may occur after the trip, but it's usually minimal or non existent the first few times you try the drug. People say that there is a post-trip crash when you're coming down, but neither my friends nor I experienced that.

If you smoke (cigarettes), you'll REALLY enjoy smoking them while one E. Just don't smoke too much or at least switch to ultra lights or something like that. As for water, don't worry too much about it. Just drink if you're thirsty. Make sure to drink a bit more accordingly if you're very active.

Also, when buying - although this may seem like common sense - only buy it in pill form. Who knows what the powder form may contain. If you don't have a testing kit, then a less foolproof thing to do is to check out one of the pill sites on the net and look in your location to see if you can find the same design and see if it's good or not.

Last, don't do this on your own. It's best at a party when a lot of people are on it (what I did). Take all of these risks into consideration before deciding what to do. And for the love of God, don't drink any alcohol while you're on it.
 

human5892

Queen of Denmark
If you are going to do it (you shouldn't, but it's up to you), be aware that there is a chance you can die. It has happened before.

I have done pleeenty of drugs in my day (haven't done any in years, though, and now I don't even drink), so I don't want to tell you what to do. But I think you ask yourself if you think it's worth a risk (albeit a small one) of dying.
 

Blackace

if you see me in a fight with a bear, don't help me fool, help the bear!
Kurashima said:
Wow, there's a lot of ignorance here. First of all, trying ecstasy once does NOT do permanent damage to your brain.

you are ignorant if you believe that... and to be honest powder form is a lot safer than pill form as I said before... pure XTC does not press into pill form... however both can be cut however the dealer or chemist sees fit....
 

8bit

Knows the Score
Blackace said:
pure XTC does not press into pill form...

Really? I was taking E in pill form 15 years ago, and was pretty convinced it was what it claimed to be.
 

ourumov

Member
If you are decided to try it...Then drink a lot of water. Most of the Ecstasy problems come because of dehidratation.
 

Blackace

if you see me in a fight with a bear, don't help me fool, help the bear!
8bit said:
Really? I was taking E in pill form 15 years ago, and was pretty convinced it was what it claimed to be.

Uh yeah... but it was cut with something to make it press... that's all..
 

Tim

Member
Kurashima said:
Wow, there's a lot of ignorance here. First of all, trying ecstasy once does NOT do permanent damage to your brain. If you do it often and without much space between usage, then yes, you could definitely screw up the balance in your brain. Check out sites like www.Erowid.org if you want to be informed about the pros and cons of a specific drug. According to this site, a very small percentage (2 per 100 000) have extreme negative reactions to the drug resulting in death. Take that into consideration.

Some side effect during the trip are jaw clenching, teeth grinding, and nystagmus. For the first two, bring some gum along. You'll be glad you did. The nystagmus doesn't always happen and it's not bad when it does, but you might want to know about it so you don't get freaked out.

After usage, you'll likely have trouble going to sleep for a day or two due to E's amphetamine effect. This is very annoying and probably the worst side effect of the drug (for me anyway; I've just done it once, taking two pills). The deppression that's often talked about may occur after the trip, but it's usually minimal or non existent the first few times you try the drug. People say that there is a post-trip crash when you're coming down, but neither my friends nor I experienced that.

If you smoke (cigarettes), you'll REALLY enjoy smoking them while one E. Just don't smoke too much or at least switch to ultra lights or something like that. As for water, don't worry too much about it. Just drink if you're thirsty. Make sure to drink a bit more accordingly if you're very active.

Also, when buying - although this may seem like common sense - only buy it in pill form. Who knows what the powder form may contain. If you don't have a testing kit, then a less foolproof thing to do is to check out one of the pill sites on the net and look in your location to see if you can find the same design and see if it's good or not.

Last, don't do this on your own. It's best at a party when a lot of people are on it (what I did). Take all of these risks into consideration before deciding what to do. And for the love of God, don't drink any alcohol while you're on it.

Well said. You know, I think I wouldn't have tried it if it wasn't for the fact that i was 100% sure the pill I took was good. I'm dutch, and while I can certainly understand some of your views on this drug, it's not as bad as people make it to be. It just isn't.
 

DCharlie

And even i am moderately surprised
Just a flip side - it`s possible to take E and have...

a REALLY REALLY good time.

Beware though - there`s only a 99.999% chance you might survive the night! ;)
 

Mama Smurf

My penis is still intact.
I can't personally understand taking a 1 in 50,000 chance of death for a one off high, but if it's something you want to do, we won't be able to stop you.
 

DaCocoBrova

Finally bought a new PSP, but then pushed the demon onto someone else. Jesus.
The first and last time I did XTC was a wonderful/awful experience. The feeling of euphoria was great, but when I got home (my GF lived w/ me at the time) I could not get my d!ck hard for nothin'! I couldn't believe it.

Me? Limp?! WTF?

I went to sleep that night and vowed never to fuck w/ that sh!t ever again.
 

shibbs

Member
Yes, do drink water or atleast some liquid. I suggest you stay away from alcohol while taking xtc, ive seen lots passing out from that combination.

Check out www.pillreports.com. If you know what pill you will be getting, maybe you can look it up there and read some of the de reactions.
 

Mama Smurf

My penis is still intact.
Sorry, I phrased that wrong. Do drink water, just don't drink lots of it for no reason like ourumov said.

I understand it's better to drink a sports drink.
 

Iceman

Member
There is evidence of nerve cell toxicity that shows no recovery with an acute dose of MDMA (the active agent in ecstasy). Also, because the there is a non-linear relationship between the amount ingested and the amount of active MDMA that enters the serum the actual dose you are getting is wildly unpredictable and can result in an acute dose in one person while not in another.. and this is within the dose ranges used recreationally.

There is usually an associated rise in blood pressure (as much as 40 mmHg in systolic... as compared to a normal of 120), pulse rate (as much as 30 beats per minute) and temperature. So if you have any preexisting cardiovascular conditions then you might do yourself a world of hurt.

That's just what I could look up through the hazardous substances databank and tox line in the last 5 minutes.
 
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