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[DeepEnigma]

For the same reason they don't make their own console and put GTA6 on it.

/thread

 

[Tobimacoss]

Because many PC players are special, you know. If they can't just make the publisher give Gaben the 30% of their game they just don't want anything to do with that game, even if it's the most awaited ever.

And that's one reason why I would much rather support a Sony PC store for their games than buy on Steam.

People never think about where their money goes, would they be ok with their money going to Prince Bonesaw, if the Saudis were to buy Steam in the future? Steam fanaticism basically is not only giving your money to a billionaire willingly, but forcing others to do it too.

 

[Durin]

They probably have the resources, but their launcher is more barebones and annoying than MMO launchers existing outside Steam.

A bunch of these gaming publishers (EA, Ubisoft, etc.) have tried this, and the simple answer is their platforms all kinda suck ass. None of them are even as good as GoG or Epic.

 

[Hector Hall]

And that's one reason why I would much rather support a Sony PC store for their games than buy on Steam.

People never think about where their money goes, would they be ok with their money going to Prince Bonesaw, if the Saudis were to buy Steam in the future? Steam fanaticism basically is not only giving your money to a billionaire willingly, but forcing others to do it too.

Yes, thing is before Steam PC gaming was absolutely atrocious. Steam has done a terrific job centralizing drivers, patchs, updates and everything and creating at the same a somewhat safe of piratery marketplace and a great community with reviews etc.

So, I can understand PC players see him(Newell) and Valve as his lord and savior and fight to death against anything that can threaten to brake their grip on the market.

But Valve now is mostly a storefront, it does some work with Os as SteamOS, but mostly doesn't create new games, doesn't spend on I+D, don't spend in publicity or events to spread gaming, so the fanatism of so many users that go as far as defend piracy if the legal way to buy doesn't include the producer handing 30% to Gaben or even so don't want to buy "because that would make Sony stronger and PlayStation is the enemy of PC gaming" is forcing the money out of developers and into someone who is just putting his hand to receive 1/3. I mean, sure they do things as I told before, but to get 1/3 of all PC gaming just because users boycott any buying alternative is a bit too much.

 

[Gaiff]

And that's one reason why I would much rather support a Sony PC store for their games than buy on Steam.

People never think about where their money goes, would they be ok with their money going to Prince Bonesaw, if the Saudis were to buy Steam in the future? Steam fanaticism basically is not only giving your money to a billionaire willingly, but forcing others to do it too.

People don't like Steam because they like it, they like it because it is far and away the best storefront in the market. That and they're just tired of making new accounts for new stores.

So where that money goes isn't as important as getting a good service for that money, including a good app/store. All others just suck and that includes GOG.

 

[Aressa]

Same reason why everyone publish on Steam.

 

[YCoCg]

Rockstar barely even want to put their older stuff on PC and still treat PC gaming as a second class source of income. Just look at the amount of games from the 360/PS3 era that they've still not put on PC. Fuck they've only just ported RDR1 on PC the past year or so.

 

[xrnzaaas]

Rockstar's launcher / Social Club is absolutely dogshit and people should be hoping for a Steam release that won't require it.

 

[MMaRsu]

And that's one reason why I would much rather support a Sony PC store for their games than buy on Steam.

People never think about where their money goes, would they be ok with their money going to Prince Bonesaw, if the Saudis were to buy Steam in the future? Steam fanaticism basically is not only giving your money to a billionaire willingly, but forcing others to do it too.

If you have zero knowledge of pc gaming why do you presume to think your opinion on it holds any weight for anyone here?

Fucking tales of your ass with this entire thread m8. What a joke

 

[Guilty_AI]

So where that money goes isn't as important as getting a good service for that money, including a good app/store. All others just suck and that includes GOG.

Theres a big difference between a gaming store and a gaming app. The good thing about places like GOG or itch io or ZOOM is precisely the fact they dont force you to use a launcher or an additional app. They sell you a piece of software and that piece of software, after downloaded, works independently of any of their services.

The first step i think a potential steam competitor should take is that. Creating a service that is a game store not a launcher, and if it does include a launcher make it entirely optional.

 

[MMaRsu]

Yes, thing is before Steam PC gaming was absolutely atrocious. Steam has done a terrific job centralizing drivers, patchs, updates and everything and creating at the same a somewhat safe of piratery marketplace and a great community with reviews etc.


But Valve now is mostly a storefront

 

[Guilty_AI]

But Valve now is mostly a storefront, it does some work with Os as SteamOS, but mostly doesn't create new games, doesn't spend on I+D, don't spend in publicity or events to spread gaming, so the fanatism of so many users that go as far as defend piracy if the legal way to buy doesn't include the producer handing 30% to Gaben or even so don't want to buy "because that would make Sony stronger and PlayStation is the enemy of PC gaming" is forcing the money out of developers and into someone who is just putting his hand to receive 1/3. I mean, sure they do things as I told before, but to get 1/3 of all PC gaming just because users boycott any buying alternative is a bit too much.

>builds proton layer that simplifies linux gaming to the masses and streamlines development
>creates steam deck, device that literally kicked off a marked for pc handhelds
>investing on VR headsets, having previously created what many consider the best VR game of all time and now on the cusp of releasing a new headset.
>developed, by far, the best discovery system of any pc gaming store

Are you even pretending to know what you're talking about?

 

[Gaiff]

The first step i think a potential steam competitor should take is that. Creating a service that is a game store not a launcher, and if it does include a launcher make it entirely optional.

GOG is doing exactly that, but they sure as hell ain't competing with Steam, are they? You're underselling the quality and importance of a good app. When your game gets updated on Steam, you immediately know what the update is by clicking on the game and reading the Activity section. You're wondering something about the game? Have grievances? Maybe a bug, or wondering when a fix will come? Go to the Discussions section and you often have developers pinning messages and answering the community. When people started reaching Malenia, the Dsicussions section was filled with threads asking the community for help and it was easy to just connect to someone's game and give them a hand with the boss. If a game has bad reviews, you're immediately wary of it, but you can click on them to know what issue people have with the game. There are guides, custom control schemes for the Steam controller, DS4/DualSense/Switch controller support and more. Refunds? Easy to get, unlike with the PS store.

So, no, I don't think merely launching the game is nearly enough to compete with Steam. It offers a slew of useful and convenient services to the end user.

 

[MMaRsu]

>builds proton layer that simplifies linux gaming to the masses and streamlines development
>creates steam deck, device that literally kicked off a marked for pc handhelds
>investing on VR headsets, having previously created what many consider the best VR game of all time and now on the cusp of releasing a new headset.
>developed, by far, the best discovery system of any pc gaming store

Are you even pretending to know what you're talking about?

They love pretending to know things about pc gaming and Steam these console fanboys are hilarious to me.

"id rather give money to a hypothetical Sony pc store than to Steam hurrdurr"

 

[Sorcerer]

Why don't they though?

Are they stupid or?

Rockstar are not exactly prolific. Imagine buying a RockStar console and waiting a decade+ for the next 1st party/GTA game. The cost of developing hardware and releasing it would be significant.

 

[Guilty_AI]

GOG is doing exactly that, but they sure as hell ain't competing with Steam, are they? You're underselling the quality and importance of a good app.

Notice how GOG, unlike epic store or ms store or others, dont get the same visceral rejection when mentioned as a steam alternative. That IS a first step, and if i buy a game on GOG instead of steam they are effectively a competitor of theirs, and there is a whole community of people out there who'd rather get their games there rather than on steam (myself included)

When your game gets updated on Steam, you immediately know what the update is by clicking on the game and reading the Activity section. You're wondering something about the game? Have grievances? Maybe a bug, or wondering when a fix will come? Go to the Discussions section and you often have developers pinning messages and answering the community. When people started reaching Malenia, the Dsicussions section was filled with threads asking the community for help and it was easy to just connect to someone's game and give them a hand with the boss. If a game has bad reviews, you're immediately wary of it, but you can click on them to know what issue people have with the game. There are guides, custom control schemes for the Steam controller, DS4/DualSense/Switch controller support and more. Refunds? Easy to get, unlike with the PS store.

I'm not saying any of these are irrelevant, i'm merely pointing out the first step to create a gaming store that can compete with steam or at the very least grow in the pc marketplace. As a side note, GOG also has an excellent refund policy.

So, no, I don't think merely launching the game is nearly enough to compete with Steam. It offers a slew of useful and convenient services to the end user.

Not launching, buying. The main element that makes people reject steam alternatives is the precisely the launching part. The best way around that is to simply not enforce any launchers, that way players could buy their games somewhere else and even add it to their steam library as a non-steam game if they so prefer (without having to go through secondary login screens or calling up other launchers)

 

[Ribi]

Vaporware company

 

[poppabk]

They love pretending to know things about pc gaming and Steam these console fanboys are hilarious to me.

"id rather give money to a hypothetical Sony pc store than to Steam hurrdurr"

You wouldn't rather give your money to a barebones store knowing that the money will not be reinvested in to the store. I hate that Valve has been taking money from PC gamers and turning around and just bald faced reinvesting it in PC gaming.