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Iggy Azalea: Why Didn't Eminem get the same backlash from the Grammys?
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Ha yeah pretty much
Angelus Errare
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I'd like to take the time to say...Rita Ora makes music for fun. She's worth nearly $200m.
We'd have to agree to disagree. Iggy could literally say anything as her bars as long as she had that hook she was golden.
On the flipside, if she kept "I'm the realest" but had a different much less infectious hook...we wouldn't be talking about Iggy right now.
We'd have to agree to disagree. Iggy could literally say anything as her bars as long as she had that hook she was golden.
On the flipside, if she kept "I'm the realest" but had a different much less infectious hook...we wouldn't be talking about Iggy right now.
Doctor Ironic
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FYI, since this misconception seems to come up in every thread for some reason: Iggy Azalea isn't considered racist because she's a rapper who is white. Nobody cares that Eminem is white, people just lathered Run the Jewels with accolades and they're one-half white person, nobody's talking shit about Action Bronson.
People think Iggy Azalea is racist because she re-appropriated a Kendrick Lamar verse to compare herself to a "slave master."
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People think Iggy Azalea is racist because she re-appropriated a Kendrick Lamar verse to compare herself to a "slave master."
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Sure it is. Eminem still faced those accusations, and still does to a degree, but it was far less prevalent than it is today due to the advent of social media platforms.
Iggy Azaelea owes all of her success to her producers. Eminem's talent simply wasn't something could be denied, and therein lies the difference.
Real question, is Action Bronson more popular than Aesop Rock?
FYI, since this misconception seems to come up in every thread for some reason: Iggy Azalea isn't considered racist because she's a rapper who is white. Nobody cares that Eminem is white, people just lathered Run the Jewels with accolades and they're one-half white person, nobody's talking shit about Action Bronson.
People think Iggy Azalea is racist because she re-appropriated a Kendrick Lamar verse to compare herself to a "slave master."
Amongst
other
things.
That's what i'm tired of about Iggy. She's always playing the victim & shocked by the amount of hate responses she receives yet will say careless things on Twitter and be like "i'm not racist..." during interviews. She feels attacked all the time yet doesn't realize she fuels the fire every time. I hope she has some sense whenever she decides to go back on Twitter.
Doctor Ironic
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Probably not, he just popped in my head first.
You are totally right about this, but Azealia Banks really isn't helping matters. I thought BwET was a fantastic album, and the crazy shit she says doesn't invalidate when she says things that are totally true like "white privilege is a real thing that exists," but the way she's just CONSTANTLY going in on Iggy - and always sandwiching her legit grievances with batshit garbage - makes her basically the anti-Iggy in the public's eyes, and then they actually wind up AGREEING with Iggy's victim complex as a result.
Then usually the conversation is shut down with people posting gifs of Iggy's ass and being like "WHO CARES, JUST LOOK AT THAT MAN," Christ seriously people fuck you if you do this
Ollie Pooch
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Fresh from the streets of Mullumbimby.
Yeah Azealia doesn't know when to shut up either. It doesn't help that Iggy is usually on her mind 24/7, so when her stans go on Iggy's twitter just to antagonize her, it looks bad not only of them but on Banks too. She should be the next to "quit" twitter, but considering that's her only source of relevancy atm, I don't think that'll occur anytime soon.
Well how would you feel if people were calling you racist over something you did not write?
why slavemaster tho?
Messofanego
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FYI, since this misconception seems to come up in every thread for some reason: Iggy Azalea isn't considered racist because she's a rapper who is white. Nobody cares that Eminem is white, people just lathered Run the Jewels with accolades and they're one-half white person, nobody's talking shit about Action Bronson.
People think Iggy Azalea is racist because she re-appropriated a Kendrick Lamar verse to compare herself to a "slave master."
Amongst
other
things.
Yikes.
DontBeThatGuy
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Who listens to this shit? Also, Eminem did get catch flack , and if the dude started to emerge during the peak of social media, he probably would've gotten it much harder. There is one big difference, which is that Eminem was ridiculously talented, and was backed by Dr. Dre. (I couldn't give a shit about him these days though)
Holy shit. I didn't know there were female rappers with this good of flow. I love what she stands for and her different styles of music mixed with English and Spanish and different styles of pop and rap.
POWERSPHERE
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I'd LOVE it if she wasn't grotesque hot garbage. A female Australian rapper at the top of the game? That's amazing, but yeah, she's completely terrible so she robs me of any chance to be proud of her.
She wrote the twitter comments herself, and the "slavemaster" bit for her to actually say was unnecessary.
She clearly doesn't know shit about rap, can't freestyle to save her life, is horrible live, and overall just seems fake as fuck. She's trash, brehs. And if you disagree you lost.
yesssss.
incoming fuckery to balance the above post:
The Artisan
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is that so? wouldn't you like to think the quieter ones are those who are more polite/tolerant of it?
Professor Beef
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yesssss.
incoming fuckery to balance the above post:
Still the best Iggy freestyle meme moment: http://gothic-babe.tumblr.com/post/106469366620/iggys-freestyle
Doctor Ironic
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All the shit that Eminem has gotten has been over his kinda deplorable attitudes towards women and homosexuals, it has nothing to do with his status as a white rapper - which is what Iggy is trying to invoke here.
Like, there's this weird idea people have that the only reason people are upset with Iggy with regards to race is because ~*That Crazy Tumblr!*~ is mad because she dares to be a white person in the rap genre. It's not. It is way, way worse than that.
Syphon Filter
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lmao docbon you wallin for posting that pic.
As mentioned already Eminem "paid his dues." Eminem fought hard to become a rapper but was held back because he was white. So he went and made sure others took notice. Hip hop is supposed to be a reflection of you, and where you're from, and Eminem is that, through and through. Infinite is a better album than anything that was up for voting this year, and MMLP2 was a great answer to the original, though it's arguably award worthy.
But what really set Em apart was his style. He made it all his own, and MMLP went out of it's way to point out how his style,(angst, pills, and mom hate) are not what the standard hip hop audience is looking for. Iggy on the other hand, looks like she googled rap in wikipedia and stole clothes from 90s era Mary J. Blige. Even Macklemore is less offensive with his youth minister rap style.
Fred Durst got the other end of this:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8RWDXrmczug
Then Benzino(one of the heads of Source) tried to start shit, threatened Haley, and got his.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-TX6o7R8LSg
The Game weighs in on Eminem:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KbHPpdPhlic
But what really set Em apart was his style. He made it all his own, and MMLP went out of it's way to point out how his style,(angst, pills, and mom hate) are not what the standard hip hop audience is looking for. Iggy on the other hand, looks like she googled rap in wikipedia and stole clothes from 90s era Mary J. Blige. Even Macklemore is less offensive with his youth minister rap style.
Fred Durst got the other end of this:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8RWDXrmczug
Then Benzino(one of the heads of Source) tried to start shit, threatened Haley, and got his.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-TX6o7R8LSg
The Game weighs in on Eminem:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KbHPpdPhlic
DontBeThatGuy
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I was on many hip hop boards at that time, Eminem did get some shit(and again, this is long before the huge social media boom, and Twitter), and on those boards, it had nothing to do with being misogynistic or homophobic. He was a corny whiteboy getting weirdly pushed by a legend to some, and a talented, entertaining guy to others. (I thought he was corny, talented and entertaining... Now though? Eh.).
..and don't lump me in with the kind of people that say she only gets flack because she's white. I've heard a handful of her songs(lame like most modern pop music I get subjected to), watched a live performance and seen some of her twitter garbage reposted. That's the extent and from that, I understand all mud that gets slung her way.
This is some really cringeworthy shit. Jesus.
theignoramus
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Em already ran through that gauntlet in the early to mid 2000s. His talent and contribution to the genre isnt in question and nor is his love and appreciation of it. Okay that song he made shitting on black women was whack as fuck, but he already got his feet held to the fire for that.
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Jotamide
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Eminem is talented and respectful of hip hop and it's culture. Iggy is neither of those.
Holy shit how did I miss this one? Seriously, fuck this chick.FYI, since this misconception seems to come up in every thread for some reason: Iggy Azalea isn't considered racist because she's a rapper who is white. Nobody cares that Eminem is white, people just lathered Run the Jewels with accolades and they're one-half white person, nobody's talking shit about Action Bronson.
People think Iggy Azalea is racist because she re-appropriated a Kendrick Lamar verse to compare herself to a "slave master."
Amongst
other
things.
The fqcr that she even asks this question shows me that she hasn't listened to even one of her criticisms. Em is actually from 8 mile and grew up with a more legit hiphop background than most rappers today. People hate Iggy because she sucks and is phony.
MWS Natural
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No. Eminem is one of the greatest rappers of all time, his skills back up his rewards. Iggy Azalea is a completely fabricated rap fraud that raps in a fake accent..
theignoramus
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Fuuuuuck that, Drake can write great hooks. And he's more versatile with his rhythm and cadence than Iggy will ever be.
GrizzleBoy
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FYI, since this misconception seems to come up in every thread for some reason: Iggy Azalea isn't considered racist because she's a rapper who is white. Nobody cares that Eminem is white, people just lathered Run the Jewels with accolades and they're one-half white person, nobody's talking shit about Action Bronson.
People think Iggy Azalea is racist because she re-appropriated a Kendrick Lamar verse to compare herself to a "slave master."
Amongst
other
things.
Wow. What a prick.
This woman deserves zero respect in the hip hop community.
She doesnt even like the hip hop community lol.
It seems likebfrom her own words she barely has any respect for anything that isnt a hetero caucasian.
The sad part is all of this being a fucking idiot is just her playing the game to get people talking about her.
I never got the problem people have with her American rap accent.
You know damn well she wouldn't be successful in the US rapping with her Australian accent. Its the same problem British rappers have.
Americans just won't accept the accent in rap.
Also its not like she puts on the accent in interviews and shit.
You know damn well she wouldn't be successful in the US rapping with her Australian accent. Its the same problem British rappers have.
Americans just won't accept the accent in rap.
Also its not like she puts on the accent in interviews and shit.
US accepted one track from Lady Sovereign and that still had her accent. (not good by any means but works as example.)
ColdLasagna
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Girl Gone.
Let's not pretend like Iggy's hit songs aren't held afloat by catchy hooks done by far more talented (and likeable) artists.
It's not her nails-on-a-chalkboard bordering on racist caricature fake accent. It's not her incredibly poor flow or arrogant persona. Oops, didn't she go running from Twitter cuz she couldn't handle the criticism despite all the bile she's spewed on Twitter herself?
Call me when Igor manages to do a song on her own that smashes. People are here for her hooks, nothing more
And the lies told were zero.
Do you think all the "backlash" she gets is justified/deserved?
I have problem with the phrasing of this.
Justified and deserved are two different concepts to me and in the case of her lets just spell it out.
I would never justify the hate she recieves but I can understand that she deserves or would attract such treatment from her tweets.
Well Em earned his status as being one of the best mc's to touch the mic and has always been respectful of hip hop and understood that his commercial success was in part a by product of him being white. I'm honestly not even sure Iggy likes hip hop and isn't just using it get famous and seems to have no understanding of why she is getting so much mainstream attention/press.
MMaRsu
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Eminem was good back in tte day, those first 3 albums are amazing.
These days all he does is fucking shout and go waaaeeee waeee. Iggy got his old ass on lock.
IGGY DOES NOT DESERVE A GRAMMY THO. She aint good enough for that. And the fact she thinks she should have earned one disgusts me.
Well, for one, she dropped the best hip-hop album of 2014 and the song of the summer (Fancy). Not bad for someone on their debut album.
Angelus Errare
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lmao!
She seems to forget that em got a lot of flack for not being black, getting accused of appropriating black culture, but he got through it by constantly dropping bombs on the rap game, doing freestyles, and showing the world he's legit.
Iggy is constantly bitching and moaning on how the world isn't fair. Boo fucking hoo.
Iggy is constantly bitching and moaning on how the world isn't fair. Boo fucking hoo.
Stereogatari
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Why can't people just let Iggy be. She's just a pop act that appeals to young girls...
I mean ffs she grew up in Australia and moved to America to try and make it as a big star and she did...deserves some credit imo.
It would be cool if the media sometimes mentioned how Rita Ora is from a Muslim background...you know just to show a diverse range of Muslims and what not than the usual images...
I mean ffs she grew up in Australia and moved to America to try and make it as a big star and she did...deserves some credit imo.
It would be cool if the media sometimes mentioned how Rita Ora is from a Muslim background...you know just to show a diverse range of Muslims and what not than the usual images...
The problem is that she is classified on the hip hop genre and not pop or some other genre. Why not put her with Miley Cyrus for Pop category? Just cause you cant sing that doesn't automatically makes you a rapper or a hip hop artists. Also why give her credit if she isnt doing her own thing when she needs to copy an accent to be relevant, she doesn't write her own material, her flow is trash and her freestyling is the most basic thing since Vanilla Ice? Outta here when there are other artists in the genre killing it yet getting paid dust just because white girl is "rapping" and "spitting" about being about that life.
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