Kobun Heat
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Nintendo eliminates access times.kaching said:
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IGN: DS in US before Japan?
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Drinky Crow
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How, exactly, will fillrate help a lack of perspective correction, absent texture precision, and a lack of proper filtering? It might be able to fake comparable translucency effects in software and handle higher color depth and higher resolution textures but outside of marginally improved special effects, I ain't seein' the major difference in the end results, especially when the DS 3D pipeline has so many fundamental regressions.
Bluemercury
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kaching said:
Go play snes, genesis or N64 then.....
Well the problem with comparing what you're seein' currently is it's not really representaive of what the final hardware is capable of. Especially when making broad comparisons to PS1, many of which had the benefit being later generation products.... comparing something like Crime Crackers or Tohshinden to the current DS demos might be fairer.Drinky Crow said:
Looking at the raw specs, DS seems outdo PS1 in all areas by a wide margin besides possibly audio and screen resolution. It's also potentially capable of better 2D than Saturn, which is a nice possibility to ruminate over. I'd agree though the perspective correction hurts overall, but really do you think those imperfections will be so apparent on a 3 inch screen?
Lost Weekend - does that explain why we see you in PSP threads?
It's not surprising that you can't seem to allow for the possibility that, though I generally stay away from the DS topics, I might have interest in the DS itself since you'd rather poke fun at me instead of explain to someone like Culex why a phrase like "infinitely faster loading" is nonsensical. Condone the overexuberant ignorance if you like. I guess solidarity is more important than awareness. That kind of attitude does wonders to win over a potential DS customer like me...
It's not surprising that you can't seem to allow for the possibility that, though I generally stay away from the DS topics, I might have interest in the DS itself since you'd rather poke fun at me instead of explain to someone like Culex why a phrase like "infinitely faster loading" is nonsensical. Condone the overexuberant ignorance if you like. I guess solidarity is more important than awareness. That kind of attitude does wonders to win over a potential DS customer like me...
Kobun Heat
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kaching said:
I'm saying they do quite a bit to cut down on access times, more than anybody else in the industry. This is a combination of hardware and software solutions - choosing the right hardware for it, then polishing the games.
Do they do it for third parties? I know that Nintendo works with third parties on their games; for example, one of Aonuma's jobs used to be to go and work with US third parties to help them polish their stuff. So, yes, I do think so.
Spiritreaver
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kaching said:
You purchase games based on the attitude of fans? @_@ That's certainly a first.
LW: I'm well aware that you like to portray everything as a joke. Doesn't change a bit of what I said.
Kobun:
Darth:
It's not as if its the only consideration and your deluding yourself if you truly think this is a "first", or unwarranted for that matter. The attitude of the fans is certainly going to dictate the content of a platform to some extent. Also, seeing as gaming is not an entirely introverted hobby (for me at least), it does help when you know that the platform you're considering is one where you'll be able to readily find birds of a feather to converse or play with. Those things are, of course, not dealbreakers either by themselves or considered together, but they certainly aren't totally lacking in influence either.
Kobun:
I do appreciate this, but that doesn't change the fact that access times remain and that, if you want to present the illusion that they don't exist, you'll be engaging in specific game design choices that you might not otherwise have to make. I think we'd all be more than a little surprised at how different game design could be if there truly were no physical access times (any data, any time, instantly).
Darth:
It's not as if its the only consideration and your deluding yourself if you truly think this is a "first", or unwarranted for that matter. The attitude of the fans is certainly going to dictate the content of a platform to some extent. Also, seeing as gaming is not an entirely introverted hobby (for me at least), it does help when you know that the platform you're considering is one where you'll be able to readily find birds of a feather to converse or play with. Those things are, of course, not dealbreakers either by themselves or considered together, but they certainly aren't totally lacking in influence either.
Spiritreaver
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kaching said:
Well good for you then. While I do find it somewhat silly myself, but only because I've never done such a thing. I usually play games with family and friends of which I've already made, if that's the case. But I think mentioned once before Im much more of a solo gamer I guess so I guess taht would be why such a thought sounds rather silly. Then again, I don't understand how basing such judgments on a group of people is really a smart thing to do. Then again I'm not one to say.
And I must honestly say this is the first I've ever heard of someone taking fans as a factor for a purchase. It doesn't even come to my mind when I buy anything for that matter. Thena gain, I've always been known to not really take other's opinions into consideration when I make purchases and whatnot. Eh I dunno.
Now please, do not take this post as me calling your thinking "silly" or "not smart", as you know that's not the case. I'm just ignorant on the matter and that's how it comes off to me as I've never really thought, or had to think of such things. Heh, I wonder if many people do such a thing.
Right, a joke at my expense. As long as its a joke for somebody, it justifies the smiley, right?Lost Weekend said:
Err...it'd help the credibility of your plea if you hadn't used the word "silly" TWICE in the first paragraphDarth Wufei said:
Would you agree that the games that appear on a platform are at least partially influenced by fans?
If Yes, does it not follow that if your tastes do not match those of the fans, then your interest in the platform will be at least partially diminished by the proportion of games that cater to them?
It's not a judgment on the fans, it's simply an acknowledgment of differing tastes/priorities. Your own reservations about the PSP are a perfect example of this.
Spiritreaver
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I'm sorry that merely saying what my true intention is, isn't enough for you. Stop looking for personal attacks when they aren't there. I completley stated why I said such things. If I wanted them to come off that way, I wouldn't have even typed that last paragraph. You're being a little too childish here.kaching said:Err...it'd help the credibility of your plea if you hadn't used the word "silly" TWICE in the first paragraph
This is somewhat true.
Nope, it doesn't follow. See the PS2 and PC. Hell even the GameCube and Xbox have many bases covered if you're looking for a genre. So like I said, fans don't come into play when I purchase games. I buy a game that interests me, and I buy a system that appeals to me. And my reservations abut the PSP? WHat reservations? I have some issues with the hardware, and is this not the case with you and the DS? I don't have any issues with the games. In fact, I looking forward to Tales of Eternia and hope Namco brings it over here. If they do, I'm certainly picking up my copy.
Oh and, alright, let's make sure Lost Weekend knows you weren't trying to judge him, or place some undefined label on him with such comments.