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What IGN's Doug Perry just posted on their messageboards:

abcdoug said:
OK, so here's the deal with Perfect Dark Zero. We saw it at E3, we saw and played it at X05, and we played it at MS's gameplay visit the week after X05. That's been our total experience with Rare's FPS. I am on the phone or email with Microsoft daily about everything, and PDZ is always on my list of questions. The answer I get is this "PDZ is coming." No explanation at all. Just "it's coming."

Just like everyone else, I am going to the store tomorrow to buy it. I bought the special edition, hell if I know why... Anyway, the only difference between you and me is that I have a 360 to play it on. (Heh heh heh.)

So, what's going on? In my opinion, Microsoft is worried about Good ol' Joanna Dark and her sequel. They're worried about how much scrutiny it will be under; they're worried that PDZ isn't that good, and they're giving Rare as much time and support it can possibly give. At X05, J Allard said it learned a lot about game development with Halo 1, and it wants to give Rare as much time as possible to finish the title -- seeing how well Halo did with the same treatment. BTW, the game is done. The game will be in stores tomorrow. That's when I'll be picking mine up. Cause MS has not sent it to us. And tomorrow is when we'll be playing it. (In fact, if and when we do get it, make sure to check our site for movies and screens and new impressions. We'll let you know either way.) I dont blame MS at all on this one, either. No matter how good or bad that game ends up being, it's a first-person shooter from Rare, and it's a sequel to a Nintendo game, and for whatever other unbeknownst reasons, it's got the lovers and the haters all ready to do their thing on it.

So I think MS is hiding it from us? The thought had crossed my mind. I mean, why else would we have a copy of Kameo and PGS3, but not the biggy, PDZ? I'm a little confused on that one. Usually, when a publisher holds off a game from us, we know it's going to suck eggs. But would MS really hold off PDZ because it thinks its own game sucks? I don't have an answer to that yet, but I am suspicious. And I'll stop being suspicious when I get a copy and figure out how good or bad that game ends up being. Hopefully, tomorrow we can shed some light on it. Lastly, we won't review the game until we beat it and play it online, considering how important online play is for it. For Call of Duty 2 and PGR3 we played a substantial amount of online and LAN play to get a feel for it prior to their release. With PDZ? not nearly enough. So, expect at least one preview piece before the 22nd, and once it comes out, I think we'll wait to play with you guys before scoring it.

Cheers, Doug
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Ditto here. We'll have a full PDZ blowout tomorrow, as will every site in the universe.

We were going to do a thing in the 1up show today basically saying what Doug just did. Except, since we heard the game was going to be at EB tomorrow, we felt like it'd be pointless bitching. But justified bitching nonetheless.
 
They're hiding something.
 
chespace said:
Ditto here. We'll have a full PDZ blowout tomorrow, as will every site in the universe.

We were going to do a thing in the 1up show today basically saying what Doug just did. Except, since we heard the game was going to be at EB tomorrow, we felt like it'd be pointless bitching. But justified bitching nonetheless.
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How about the Condemned review? ETA on that?
 
You know, I'm just going to go in expecting the game to suck, maybe I'll be pleasantly surprised. :p

I suppose I'll be playing it in a few days anyway...
 
I'm going to be the optimist here and say that, more than anything, Microsoft is just afraid of publicity period concerning Perfect Dark Zero. It may sound silly, but they know that for the hordes and hordes of fanboys running around, if say IGN drops a review and they say something around the ball park of "8.7" or something, positive or not, shit will hit the fan.

If that's the case, I understand what they're up to, but damned if I'm not frustrated by it. I just wanna know.
 
Sl1p said:
I'm going to be the optimist here and say that, more than anything, Microsoft is just afraid of publicity period concerning Perfect Dark Zero. It may sound silly, but they know that for the hordes and hordes of fanboys running around, if say IGN drops a review and they say something around the ball park of "8.7" or something, positive or not, shit will hit the fan.

If that's the case, I understand what they're up to, but damned if I'm not frustrated by it. I just wanna know.
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Come this weekend, tons of GAFers will have their 360s and will probably flood the board with impressions ranging from "OMGAH B0MBA" to "BEST GAME EBAR!"
 
I'll let thousands of people bite the bullet for me tomorrow and pick up the game over the weekend if it's the real deal. I don't like this tactic by MS though (not that I'll think twice if the game is great)
 
Mr.Bob on suicide watch.
 
Hopefully they know its good and they want the review to come out right before or right after launch to sway the on the fence customers. At least I hope. :(
 
capslock said:
Is he calling J Allard an 'it'?
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J Allard is not of this world and, as such, cannot really be classified in terms of our human understanding of male and female. That, or it was J Allard actually referring to Microsoft Game Studios as a whole as the learning entity.
 
This really doesn't sound too good. This is the big 360 title and they are keeping it from the press, something is up. As much as I wanted this game to rock, hearing this makes me think the game is gonna be a huge dissapointment. PDZ is something that people have waited 5 years for, its been on 3 consoles, and its being developed from Rare. The hype for the game is huge, and for good reason. If the game isn't awesome, there is gonna be hell to pay.
 
I think the reviews will be better than this suggests.

Far better. Hell they could have just given them up to the wire and printed games at the last second for all we know.

Then again it could suck ass.
 
I suspect the game is just average. But it will be compared to that other launch game, Halo, and it will not be on the winning side. The reviews will say good, not great (6.5-8.5) and the internet will explode all over the place just like when Wall Guy hit at E3.

Microsoft has just been trying to delay the inevitable for as long as possible.
 
If this was anywhere close to Halo quality, this shit would be in reviewers hands right now. If an early review stated it was just as good if not better than Halo, then it would generate hype you'd think they'd want to have.

But then again, why would they release the game early if they were really trying to hide something. Get Batman on the phone..WHO BENEFITS?
 
After playing a presumably recent build in Osaka just last weekend, there's no fucking way this game is much better than the absolutely goddamn horrible experience it was to play just a few days ago.

If the final is anything like the build I played, it's a complete dud. The only smart move by Microsoft would be to take the high road and delay it inevitably in order to make it a good game and not just throw away one of their potential established franchises.
 
suaveric said:
I suspect the game is just average. But it will be compared to that other launch game, Halo, and it will not be on the winning side. The reviews will say good, not great (6.5-8.5) and the internet will explode all over the place just like when Wall Guy hit at E3.

Microsoft has just been trying to delay the inevitable for as long as possible.
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Yep.

Rare has NEVER made a game on par with Halo and they never will...yet we all know the comparisons are inevitable.

I really am looking forward to this game, though. There's something about it that is grabbing my interest. At the same time, I'm trying to keep my expectations down. All of the impressions have been rather negative, afterall...
 
Juice said:
After playing a presumably recent build in Osaka just last weekend, there's no fucking way this game is much better than the absolutely goddamn horrible experience it was to play just a few days ago.

If the final is anything like the build I played, it's a complete dud. The only smart move by Microsoft would be to take the high road and delay it inevitably in order to make it a good game and not just throw away one of their potential established franchises.
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There's no way it could be that bad. Are you sure it was a recent build?
 
7.5, From all the videos it looks like a standard FPS, it doesn't seem to do anything others do, which isn't a bad thing as long as it does them well. But it just looks so average (aside from the graphics)
 
Perfect Dark's score will never reach...
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dark10x said:
Yep.

Rare has NEVER made a game on par with Halo and they never will...yet we all know the comparisons are inevitable.
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Goldeneye was better than Halo though.

OH SNAP

edit: I should say I'm slightly biased though. I could never get into Halo much. I prefer the tactical/mission-oriented style of GE to Halo's more PC-ish freeform approach.
 
dark10x said:
Yep.

Rare has NEVER made a game on par with Halo and they never will...yet we all know the comparisons are inevitable.
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Are you a fucking retard? What the fuck have you been smoking? Rare has made games BETTER than fucking Halo years ago. Perfect Dark > Halo and always will. STFU you dumb shit.
 
Gee said:
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It's a trap!
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O RLY?

I stand behind my comment, though. Goldeneye and Perfect Dark? Don't even get me started on those...

Ganondorf>Link said:
Are you a fucking retard? What the fuck have you been smoking? Rare has made games BETTER than fucking Halo years ago. Perfect Dark > Halo and always will. STFU you dumb shit.
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I appreciate the name calling, I really do.
 
chespace said:
Ditto here. We'll have a full PDZ blowout tomorrow, as will every site in the universe.

We were going to do a thing in the 1up show today basically saying what Doug just did. Except, since we heard the game was going to be at EB tomorrow, we felt like it'd be pointless bitching. But justified bitching nonetheless.
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So MS did not give you guys any preview code at all? That must be the first time in history of mankind that we europeans got something before the US from Microsoft.
 
dark10x said:
Yep.

Rare has NEVER made a game on par with Halo and they never will...yet we all know the comparisons are inevitable.
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WTF?

I've never had as much fun with a console FPS as I did Goldeneye. Halo included.
 
dark10x said:
Correct answer.

I stand behind my comment, though. Goldeneye and Perfect Dark? Don't even get me started on those...
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I'd like to hear your criticisms of them, if you have the time...for GE at least. PD's single-player mode wasn't that great, though that may have been b/c of the unplayable framerate.
 
Now I see why Nintendo was so eager to dump Rare, in fact, this may be the greatest act of industrial sabotage the games industry has ever seen!
 
If they aren't 100% certain on the game they should've delayed it for a few months. Its not like the launch needed it...

dark10x said:
Rare has NEVER made a game on par with Halo
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GE was fucking awesome at the time. So many nights of off the wall "pizza box splitting the TV screen" multiplayer fun. The single-player was amazing at the time too.
 
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