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IGN:Peter Moore Talks Two SKUs
- Thread starter DarienA
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FiRez said:
oh god. im already picturing the deceiving commercials that will be coming out.
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kaching said:
with MS now taking royalties on 3rd party peripherals.. they probably wont be that much cheaper than 1st party ones.
radioheadrule83
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I don't see what the problem is. This is freaking great news.
£209?!
That's a steal. £279 isn't all that much more either considering you get HD video cables, a wireless controller and a wireless headset to go with your silver subscription either.
I think they've put together two fantastic packages. I'm not sure the dollar prices are particularly good, but for a British consumer, this will be one of the best/more-affordable console launches ever. I think people will be grateful of the package options on release day.
Kudos MS!
The only thing I'd be against now is a rise in videogame prices. I'd be outright against it. Thats probably what will make or break my purchase of this system.
£209?!
That's a steal. £279 isn't all that much more either considering you get HD video cables, a wireless controller and a wireless headset to go with your silver subscription either.
I think they've put together two fantastic packages. I'm not sure the dollar prices are particularly good, but for a British consumer, this will be one of the best/more-affordable console launches ever. I think people will be grateful of the package options on release day.
Kudos MS!
The only thing I'd be against now is a rise in videogame prices. I'd be outright against it. Thats probably what will make or break my purchase of this system.
Kiyamon
Member
I am going to buy anyways, but I would of preferred they go with a price point around $350 with a wireless controller and the 20 gig HDD.
In a way it makes a bit of sense, because when I bought the Xbox, I spent all this extra money buying the remote, HD cables, Xbox Live kit, etc... which probably was over $100. Plus the way I see it I can sell the crap I dont want on ebay.
In a way it makes a bit of sense, because when I bought the Xbox, I spent all this extra money buying the remote, HD cables, Xbox Live kit, etc... which probably was over $100. Plus the way I see it I can sell the crap I dont want on ebay.
AtomicShroom
Member
Okay so let me get this straight... Who in their right mind would buy the $300 Xbox 360?
Just to play games, you would need:
Xbox 360 core system - $300
Memory card - $40
Total: $340
Why would anyone settle for such a setup at $340 when for a mere additionnal $60, you can get: A 20gb harddrive instead of a puny 64mb memory card, a headset, a remote, HD cables, and a wireless controller??
It doesn't make sense.
Just to play games, you would need:
Xbox 360 core system - $300
Memory card - $40
Total: $340
Why would anyone settle for such a setup at $340 when for a mere additionnal $60, you can get: A 20gb harddrive instead of a puny 64mb memory card, a headset, a remote, HD cables, and a wireless controller??
It doesn't make sense.
Kai Dracon
Writing a dinosaur space opera symphony
Okay, so wait. Moore babbles about gamers 'wanting choice'.
Then says they expect the majority of sales to go to the more expensive SKU.
Also seems to remark that they expect the few who bought the core system initially will upgrade anyway.
Plus says that they expect the balance to change later on - when prices on the Xbox Deluxo could simply be reduced as per typical console price cuts.
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Okay Egon, explain the whole double SKU thing to me again. I'm confused.
Then says they expect the majority of sales to go to the more expensive SKU.
Also seems to remark that they expect the few who bought the core system initially will upgrade anyway.
Plus says that they expect the balance to change later on - when prices on the Xbox Deluxo could simply be reduced as per typical console price cuts.
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Okay Egon, explain the whole double SKU thing to me again. I'm confused.
vatstep
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You're right, but a lot of people will fall for it. Especially during the holidays. And then when they realize that they want some of the other peripherals.. $$$$$$$$$$ FOR MSAtomicShroom said:
Kai Dracon
Writing a dinosaur space opera symphony
AtomicShroom said:
Holy frack, I totally forgot the memory card issue at first glance.
WTF Moore!
YOU'RE NOT WORKING AT SEGA ANYMORE!
FortNinety
Member
Kobun Heat said:
This bears heavy repeating.
I'm just amazed how far MS has gone in just one generation, and how much their arrogance over this has now blinded them.
Their plans is damaging on so many levels: the hardcore, the casuals, the retailers... man oh man is MS fucking up.
Kai Dracon
Writing a dinosaur space opera symphony
Come to think of it...
... maybe this is what the Revolution's revolutionary feature will be.
It'll be a hell of a lot cheaper!
... maybe this is what the Revolution's revolutionary feature will be.
It'll be a hell of a lot cheaper!
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AtomicShroom said:
Same way Apple can charge 300 for a 40GB ipod and 250 for a 20GB ipod. It doesn't make sense
The Abominable Snowman
Member
Peter Moore said:
If there is a lesson I think you will have learned in the next generation is that gamers don't want to feel shafted.
You're basically paying $299 for a no frills nexgen console, and $399 for a no frills next gen console that is backwards compatible. I think this package is unacceptable for a variety of reasons, the biggest being paying $100 for backwards compatibility among other little things. The Xbox 360 launches with NO Major hit games worth buying a console for initially, and I think I'd do m,uch better myself if I kept the Xbox and the continued flood of games expected by year's end.
You're essentially paying $100 for backwards compatibility, and touted features that should have been included with the $299 pack.
Another reason this package is unacceptable IMO is because now MMOG makers will not have the luxury of ensuring gamers can purchase and play their games without buying a ~100 dollar addition, on top of monthly fees. We cannot hope for developers to use caching either, or large gamesaves that save the entire world state and changes, or downloadable content such as demos or MICROTRANSACTIONS.
A third reason why this kind of burns me is because it's basically offering nothing new. No HD-DVD or (Even better) TIVO or DVD burner, it's basically like the N64 with the optional 4mb expansion, or Saturn and the 4/6mb expansion, or Genesis and 32X, or PS2 and Hard Drive.
I understand Hard drives are expensive components, but there's no reason to shit on the potential userbase. If Sony announces the PS3 is $299, MS, with a seemingly 10x more unimpressive unit at $299 and $399, would be in a world of hurt.
Will wait until the X360 is hacked, then, since a $149 Xbox with a $30 Hard Drive (or even the standard INCLUDED hard drive
) is MUCH more appealing to play media files on, thanks to Xbox Media Player. I can even stream music and movies from my cheap Tivo, let alone XP and MCE2005Beer Monkey
Member
Do you have any idea how many GAFfers bought the PSOne on 9-9-95 just to play Ridge Racer? There wasn't any other reason to buy the damned thing on launch day.
Beer Monkey
Member
No Blinx = 360 am doomed.
SolidSnakex
Member
beermonkey@tehbias said:
You're in for a rude awakening if you think RR is a big system seller.
Baron Aloha
A Shining Example
beermonkey@tehbias said:
0?
Ridge Racer wasn't a launch title.
Beer Monkey
Member
Never said that it was for the general public. But this isn't a general public board.
Regardless, this is all silly. Is anybody here actually predicting that 360 won't sell everything they can produce between now and spring? Anybody predicting production cuts within months of launch like PSP? Stop beating around the bush and make bold, specific predictions so you can be called out on it later.
Are you high?
Baron Aloha
A Shining Example
beermonkey@tehbias said:
No, but you're wrong. Ridge Racer was not available at launch. It didn't come out until the end of September that year.
Beer Monkey
Member
Bzzt. Wrong answer, but thanks for playing. We have some lovely parting gifts for you.
Baron Aloha
A Shining Example
beermonkey@tehbias said:
Wanna wager a ban over it? If I'm wrong the mods can ban me and if you are wrong they can ban you. Deal?
Legal Step
Member
He should have said everything costs more because of gas prices. People would have believed him then.
Beer Monkey
Member
Game on.
Baron Aloha
A Shining Example
Wario64 said:
Dude, it was not a launch game. I'm positive. I remember standing in line on 9.9.95 at 6:00am at EB, being the first in line, and hearing that it had been pushed back a couple of weeks.
Beer Monkey
Member
Never said PS2/RRV.
And I remember taking it home on launch day and not buying another single game until Tekken. Trust me, I didn't sit home and stare at the system for 2 weeks with nothing to play.
I am sorry that you are banned.
The Abominable Snowman
Member
Talking about PSOneDarienA said:
JC10001 said:
these 3 sites say otherwise:
http://psx.ign.com/objects/000/000173.html
http://www.gamefaqs.com/console/psx/data/366817.html
http://www.gamespot.com/ps/driving/ridgeracer/index.html?q=ridge+racer
Baron Aloha
A Shining Example
beermonkey@tehbias said:
Now you are just making stuff up. You did not buy a US PSX on 9.9.95 with the US version of Ridge Racer. That did not happen because the game was not out on day one.
And are you saying that you waited 2 weeks for Tekken? Because if you are then you are wrong there too. Tekken wasn't released until November that year.
Oxymoron said:
Gamespot and IGN are wrong.
Beer Monkey
Member
No shit. I'm saying I didn't wait around for 2 weeks for Ridge Racer, which is what you are claiming and you are so wrong and da Nile ain't just a river in Egypt.