phoenix296
Member
I hope they add voice chat when they implement the organized matches with friends.
IGN: Splatoon's lack of voice chat is "cheap and lazy"
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I don't even know what to say about Nintendo's insistence on shunning voice chat. It's baffling to me that they would not want friends and family being able to actually speak to each other while playing a game. Whenever I play a Nintendo game online, I quickly remember it's the loneliest gaming experience ever and then stop. The entire idea of online is communication and they just don't get it I guess.
What is Swapnote.
You kidding?
Shining Sunshine
Banned
Did anyone notice the generic names they were matching up with?
pinkurocket
Member
Since Splatoon mixes players from all over the world in one server (without lag, surprisingly), it would be a mess. Everyone that tried the demo yesterday saw many Japanese names despite being from EU or US for example. Splatoon is frantic and fast, and voice chat with strangers would be terrible. I rarely use voice chat in MP games with strangers, there's just no point unless it's a comp setting like CS:GO. Maybe it's more of a US thing, but Splatoon's random shuffled matchmaking system would not benefit from voice chat.
There's no excuse for not adding voice chat amongst friends though, however that feature gets unlocked a few weeks after release so..... maybe there is some hope? Probably not, though.
There's no excuse for not adding voice chat amongst friends though, however that feature gets unlocked a few weeks after release so..... maybe there is some hope? Probably not, though.
No, that's not it. Everyone on the internet has a smartphone now and can call people if they want to talk (that's why no one used Wii Speak). Nintendo investors have been trying to tell Iwata this for years and he's just got the memo.
Just like when people bitched about entering 30 digit friend codes, Nintendo just replaced the numbers with a user defined NNID without sorting out the actual account system.
Stuff just gets lost in translation.
It uses Mii names, not NNIDs. That was why the names were "normal".
JoeyJungle
Banned
They probably should have voice chat, but I really hate voice chat and disable it whenever possible. I've spent too many games of Counter Strike listening to dudes who sound exactly the same thinking they're special ops' strategists or whining because they suck. It's exactly the same in Halo public matches, with 12 year olds cursing up a storm whenever they get sniped.
Voice chat definitely has major benefits, but I absolutely hate listening to morons when I play online. I'm not gonna miss it at all.
Voice chat definitely has major benefits, but I absolutely hate listening to morons when I play online. I'm not gonna miss it at all.
Cheesemeister
Member
I don't see a lack of voice chat as cheap and lazy, but I do see it as overly-paranoid and not even a problem if implemented correctly.
It takes the name from the Mii, not the account.
Gucci Messiah
Banned
You know how you solve that problem? Only let players communicate with those on their friends list.
I feel the same. The game design is intuitive enough (maybe not the initial gyro controls) that voice chat isn't necessary. In fact, I would argue the bad outweighs the good as voice chat isn't needed to overcome poor design flaws or games that have large, slow paced gameplay that requires communication (CS).
The gameplay is fast paced and chaotic. Constant orders going out by someone as the map changes will not be fun and make the game more of a chore than what its supposed to be... a game.
Omega Kirby
Member
Dont go thinking I dislike all voice chat in games and approve of nintendos decision just cause I told you of the few times I had a bad voice chat experience in a game.
Everyone who plays online goes has gone through that many times.
AgentOtaku
Member
in my experience, the only time someone was talking in AW was to just talk shit or have everyone hear their music. No promoting tactics or anything of the sort.
boiled goose
good with gravy
It should definitely be included. good on IGN. Online multiplayer games benefit immensely from voicechat when playing with friends.
Without in game voice chat, people are gonna have to use Skype or whatever
Without in game voice chat, people are gonna have to use Skype or whatever
Not for me. I love the online in MK8 and Smash because I can play against real people but not have to hear or talk to them. It's the best of both worlds!
Otakumegane
Member
I wouldn't say cheap and lazy but it does suck that the game doesn't have something that should be very basic.
Zen_Arcade
Banned
I don't know if cheap and lazy is how I would describe it, but it's absolutely bad game design. It's crazy that in 2015 there is an online game without voice chat. Even crazier that I've seen people defend it not being in the game. It should be a basic feature at this point. There is no excuse for it being absent.
The Xtortionist
Member
Because they're in the OS' party chat
loaf of bread
Member
I still can't believe Nintendo actually has the gall to think its okay to release a multiplayer focused game without the most basic and standard of features like voice chat and fucking playing in a party with friends.
boiled goose
good with gravy
People focusing on gameplay are missing the point. Voice chat is for the social aspect with friends too.
I have never read a legitimate argument against including voice chat. The people that seem to be against it don't seem to know what "options" are. That's where the "cheap and lazy" really applies. Too cheap to get a headset (which doesn't make sense on the Wii U, 'cause the the Gamepad has a built-in mic) and too lazy to turn off voice chat if they don't want to use it.
AW is on consoles with proper online and actual party systems, so people tend to be silent as they're in their own groups of friends talking while in a match.
I will probably be in said parties while playing Splatoon because otherwise the whole thing is way too silent and disconnected feeling.
They'd have to have a different server for it, probably, and it wouldn't necessarily affect the direct connection but would likely end up with bandwidth limitations on the user end, depending on the internet provider/speeds/bandwidths.
The bigger issue with all-in voice chat would be that Splatoon doesn't have a regional split for its online multiplayer. So any given match would be drawing from across the globe with a high probability of a bunch of non-yourlanguage speakers. Obviously this isn't an issue with friend lobbies, though.
You're right, I am ignoring those people because my argument is against universal public voice chat. I don't give a rats ass how friends are talking to each other and what implementations Nintendo has made, if any. I talk to my friend's via Skype or Facetime because the sound quality is superb and better than what any console (except Xbox One maybe) can give me.
Gucci Messiah
Banned
WiiRevolution1
Member
I'm glad Nintendo has never (and will never due to their kid friendly image despite it being mostly kids who use voice chat) enabled voice chat with randoms. Its annoying hearing other people talk. Especially in a game like Splatoon where I want to focus fully on the game instead of being distracted by voices. (And listen to awesome music/sound effects)
The only reason I play games online is to play with my friends who now live in other states. We buy the games we plan on playing online together. We basically use it like we would a phone, to catch up and chat like once every few weeks. In fact, we're about to do it right now.
But my friends don't have a wii u, only I do.
Spyder_Monkey
Banned
Screw voice chat. 85% of the time it's just a bunch of stupid prepubescent kids. And that's on Xbox and Playstation. God forbid you voice chat on a system made for kids.
Xaero Gravity
NEXT LEVEL lame™
Whoa, they're actually not allowing that in 2015?
boiled goose
good with gravy
I don't mind this. But with friends it should be an option
It blows my mind that it blows other people's minds that a game could not have voice chat in 2015. Sure, it may be "cheap and lazy" but why bother with something as small as this if it may hinder the online experience, community-wise and connection-wise. If you're one of those saying you aren't gonna buy the game because of this, you likely weren't gonna buy the game anyway.
But, I agree they should add it when they add in party matches (which is the real travesty). I've also never seen any game that has all voice disabled as default and I'm not sure why that is. Also, pretty much every MOBA has no in-game voice-chat and they are arguably the biggest team basted multiplayer games today. Valve and Riot have commented on why many times I believe.
But, I agree they should add it when they add in party matches (which is the real travesty). I've also never seen any game that has all voice disabled as default and I'm not sure why that is. Also, pretty much every MOBA has no in-game voice-chat and they are arguably the biggest team basted multiplayer games today. Valve and Riot have commented on why many times I believe.
hurricanes
Member
I don't think they leave out voice chat because of laziness.
And while I strongly prefer the option to be available, I am SICK of creeps and ill-mannered people who cannot complete a sentence without a certain word start with the letter "F". That's the solo reason I have never enabled microphone in MH3U.
And while I strongly prefer the option to be available, I am SICK of creeps and ill-mannered people who cannot complete a sentence without a certain word start with the letter "F". That's the solo reason I have never enabled microphone in MH3U.
That was the official reason they gave for only having it between matches with friends in Smash. I dunno if it's actually accurate or not
boiled goose
good with gravy
Friends only. Every one happy
Dr. Kitty Muffins
Member
I prefer no voices while playing. Hearing them annoys me - especially kids.
Interesting. Would suck for me and my crappy internet then haha
Perhaps it might be probable that they patch it in once the friend lobbies update is up in like August I think?
At launch you can party, but the teams are automatically randomized.
The August update will add in the team-party "locks" and matchmaking for pre-made teams.
Omega Kirby
Member
There's voice chat in MH3U o.o ??!?
pinkurocket
Member
Yes they are, but the feature gets unlocked some weeks after launch.
loaf of bread
Member
Yep.
3 months for an update that adds the most basic features.
Yeah try 3 months.
I don't own a Wii U, so no dog in this fight, but they should really include party chat as an option at the very least. I'm agreed that chatting with randoms almost never works out (Destiny is one of the only games I've ever played that randoms are decent to talk with), and for the most part I mute any random that pipes up... that being said, if I'm playing with friends, I'd want to party chat and either strategize, or just shoot the shart while we play.
In this day and age, it should at least be an option. Nintendo makes some great games, but they really seem clueless at times when it comes to modern gaming.
In this day and age, it should at least be an option. Nintendo makes some great games, but they really seem clueless at times when it comes to modern gaming.
It's astounding that the lack of voice chat options is being defended as if it's inclusion would be a detriment. It would can easily be an option. And if you don't like it then turn it off, but don't pretend not having voice chat in any kind of team game is some great boon to the game's quality or isn't actually limiting in any way whatsoever.
Really? I'm pretty sure Dota 2 has voice chat =/
hurricanes
Member
Ehhh... Wii U ver., Yes?