Not one that's been announced, no.
IGN: Splatoon's lack of voice chat is "cheap and lazy"
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Not one that's been announced, no.
Can somebody please think of the children?
Jesus fuck, the length people in this thread go to defend what is obviously a missing feature masked by it beeing "by design" is mindblowing. There is a reason why voice communications are a standard feature in
cooperative multiplayer games nowdays. The reason beeing to cooperate in said games.
Jesus fuck, the length people in this thread go to defend what is obviously a missing feature masked by it beeing "by design" is mindblowing. There is a reason why voice communications are a standard feature in
cooperative multiplayer games nowdays. The reason beeing to cooperate in said games.
I can find examples of 3 people who have actually played the game who think it should have voice chat that have responded to you and you're the only person I've seen who has played the demo who thinks it shouldn't. You're pulling your generalization out of your ass.
Amirox is an obvious one.
Then you have this guy:
and this person:
And I haven't seen a person say they have played the demo and agree with you.
ad hominem. Who else is at fault? If you believe I'm incorrect in stating that a parent who has concern about this problem but yet refuses to even do the simplest research to remedy it is "at fault", then you must have an alternative for who I should blame. I am at a loss.
I played some games at my parent's friend's house with his kid. Thought him a little stuff and gave him some advice and we're chill. In what way is that creepy?
And that's why I think there should be party chat.
Yeah, obviously.
Gonzo The Great
Banned
Some people on this site have defended:
- The lack of online in Mario Party 10 because "Mario Party is meant to be played locally"
- The artificial supply constraints of sought after Amiibo because "they underestimated demand"
- The fact that Amiibo functionality has basically turned into on-disc DLC because "it's minor content"
- Nintendo's Youtube creator's program because they're "protecting their IP"
- Nintendo butchering the picture of quality their legacy titles to "prevent epilepsy"
- Nintendo refusing to add GBA games to the 3DS eShop because they only offer "perfect emulation"
- Nintendo's decision not to bring the New 3DS to North America because "too many options"
- Nintendo's decision not to include a charger with the New 3DS XL because "it helps reduce environmental waste"
And many more. You're surprised by the fact that they're doing the same for Splatoon, an unfinished game that doesn't have voice chat in 2015? I consider myself to be a big Nintendo fan, but the constant excuses are embarrassing.
And now we have pedophilia accusations. Wonderful.
- The lack of online in Mario Party 10 because "Mario Party is meant to be played locally"
- The artificial supply constraints of sought after Amiibo because "they underestimated demand"
- The fact that Amiibo functionality has basically turned into on-disc DLC because "it's minor content"
- Nintendo's Youtube creator's program because they're "protecting their IP"
- Nintendo butchering the picture of quality their legacy titles to "prevent epilepsy"
- Nintendo refusing to add GBA games to the 3DS eShop because they only offer "perfect emulation"
- Nintendo's decision not to bring the New 3DS to North America because "too many options"
- Nintendo's decision not to include a charger with the New 3DS XL because "it helps reduce environmental waste"
And many more. You're surprised by the fact that they're doing the same for Splatoon, an unfinished game that doesn't have voice chat in 2015? I consider myself to be a big Nintendo fan, but the constant excuses are embarrassing.
And now we have pedophilia accusations. Wonderful.
I remember back in the day when you got kicked if you didn't have a mic on Socom. But that was when online games were good. Splatoon should have chat if you can play with friends.
I play video games with my nephews all the time. How the fuck is that creepy?
MatrixMan.EXE
Member
You're completely off the fucking rails, holy shit. Because one person is OK with no voice chat, you completely discredit him as a parent just because he didn't use a website for an answer? God damn man.
One easy solution (other than having to code in all of the voice chat functionality) would be to make it opt-in by default. Everyone is muted to everything. If you want to use voice chat you'd have to actively enable it.
This would remove some of the concerns around parents buying the game and having little johnny hear some of the filth that comes out of other players mouths (seriously...I always have to mute everyone with a mic in online games these days).
This would remove some of the concerns around parents buying the game and having little johnny hear some of the filth that comes out of other players mouths (seriously...I always have to mute everyone with a mic in online games these days).
Relaxed Muscle
Member
Asking for parents to be involved and informed about what their kid plays, is not asking for the moon, and certainly neglecting those things can be said is not exactly good parenting.
Would you let your kid to be on facebook, without informing him about all the privacy options and common sense needed to be on a social platform like that or would you ask for facebook to block all communications automatically because you can't be arsed to be conscious of these options?
This post deserves to be its own thread. It's seriously sickening. We need to stop letting Nintendo get away with this bullshit.
Give War A Chance
Member
Post of the day candidate!
But yeah, it's 2015. Just let people opt-out if they don't want it. or opt-in, to make it "safer" for the kids of the world. It is lazy to not have voice chat in a team-based shooter, online, period. That part is unacceptable. But the game itself seems fun enough, even with that glaring omission.
Quoting this post because it deserves to be quoted in nearly every "b-b-b-but we don't need <insert basic ass 2015 videogaming feature here>!" Nintendo thread. It's just sad the stuff people will defend for one company, then skewer another for.
Nope, that's not my argument. Please, feel free to actually read what is being said. It's not tough. Trying to paint someone as a radical when they're not just makes you seem like a hilarious reactionary.
My argument is simple. I'll break it down for you.
1. Someone who is a parent is defending this option, because they want Nintendo to do their parenting for them.
2. This person said they didn't even know that console games had the option to mute players/turn off voice chat, let alone the entire system... even when the option is included in voice chat console multiplayer games all the time.
3. This parent who supposedly has concern about their kids being in voice chat games cannot even do the most basic research on google - which takes about five seconds - to find if there is a way to protect their children from this problem they think they have. It's literally the first or second link after you type in the question about how to turn off voice chat on the system.
Who is at fault? Is it the company who provided the option to the parent that the parent refused to even find out existed?
MiketheBSG
Member
Honestly, I was shocked he was still there. I'm a grown man now and I remember him when I was in grade school. What a trooper!
Zen_Arcade
Banned
This from the guy who just subtly implied that someone is a pedophile, or at the very least creeps on children, because he wants online voice chat in a video game.
You're a pot screaming black at the kettle when it comes to off the rails remarks buddy.
that's different, they're family.
do you play with children you don't know across the country with full on conversation on XBL/PSN chat all the time? That's different. What would your (or your brother/sister's) reaction would be if they found out your nephews were chatting it up with an grown man in a video game? I bet they wouldn't shrug it off like most people here are doing.
Crimson_Gold
Member
Because it fits the narrative that many want it to fit. Nintendo is protecting the kids. This is the right decision. Your interaction with your nephews does not fit the narrative, thus it is wrong
Garrett Hawke
Member
I played 2/3 demo hours and I don't think the game needs voice chat, + I completely understand why Nintendo haven't put it in, and it's not "laziness".
It would be great if they added PARTY chat for those in parties in game, but I have no problem with them not allowing general chat.
blu
Wants the largest console games publisher to avoid Nintendo's platforms.
Be my guest. Since you apparently did not bother to read what I said, outside of 'he said chess, lol!'. And no, I'm not going to bother explaining again.
What age are we talking about here? When I was 15 I was raiding in WoW with people into their 30s. I was playing MMOs until about 25 and had people in the guild I was in that were in highschool.
It isn't that creepy. If we are talking about 10 year olds... Ok sure.
There is no team mode that they have announced that has kill counts as a victory condition.
Every single piece of intelligence required for any and everyone to realize what needs to be done and form a strategy, is updated, in real time, instantly, on the game pad.
Sit reps are all about painting a picture for others to see. Splatoon actually does that, in real time, for everyone to see.
Literally, the only thing VC brings to the table is a voice.
At its best, this allows chatting with freinds about the weather.
At its most likely, this will result in shreiking morons who want everyone on the team to do what they want.
I would have really liked the option of voice chat. Hell, they could have even set it to disabled by default or something, but while I was playing the demo, some teams I had were just so uncoordinated.
I really would have liked the option to be able to tell them to cover x area of the map instead of all crowding in one area.
I really would have liked the option to be able to tell them to cover x area of the map instead of all crowding in one area.
Is it the parent who buys a game with an age 7 on the cover for a Nintendo console and assumes that's enough?
I reiterate this is the 'safest' decision of all.
Gucci Messiah
Banned
I've noticed the few people still defending no voice chat in Splatoon rush into every thread related to this game and loyally defend it from any criticism with the same dumb arguments.
"Splatoon doesn't need voice chat, you can just look at the map!"
Uh no, and the demo proved this. Having to take your eyes off the screen every few seconds is not an ideal solution and Nintendo should have at least thrown a mini map on the screen.
"Chat is toxic and one time I had a bad experience because somebody called me a bad word so nobody should be able to talk"
Grow up and learn how to mute other players. For all the lazy slobs out there who can't even be bothered to do that, what's your excuse if you have to opt in to chat or they restrict it to people on your friends list?
"Uh...Uh...You shouldn't have expected chat to begin with because Nintendo"
So I'm not supposed to expect that Nintendo get with the times and implement a basic feature that most games have had since the 90s? Even Pokemon Diamond had built in chat back in 2007.
"Bu...bu...but Destiny and Titanfall!"
Ah, now we've moved onto deflecting the blame by singling out two games out of hundreds that didn't offer voice chat with randoms at first. The funny thing is that you could still party up and Destiny ultimately patched it in because they realized it was a feature people wanted.
"Well I'm not going to use it anyway"
Welp, we've reached the point of shitposting because this has literally nothing to do with the argument at hand.
"Splatoon doesn't need voice chat, you can just look at the map!"
Uh no, and the demo proved this. Having to take your eyes off the screen every few seconds is not an ideal solution and Nintendo should have at least thrown a mini map on the screen.
"Chat is toxic and one time I had a bad experience because somebody called me a bad word so nobody should be able to talk"
Grow up and learn how to mute other players. For all the lazy slobs out there who can't even be bothered to do that, what's your excuse if you have to opt in to chat or they restrict it to people on your friends list?
"Uh...Uh...You shouldn't have expected chat to begin with because Nintendo"
So I'm not supposed to expect that Nintendo get with the times and implement a basic feature that most games have had since the 90s? Even Pokemon Diamond had built in chat back in 2007.
"Bu...bu...but Destiny and Titanfall!"
Ah, now we've moved onto deflecting the blame by singling out two games out of hundreds that didn't offer voice chat with randoms at first. The funny thing is that you could still party up and Destiny ultimately patched it in because they realized it was a feature people wanted.
"Well I'm not going to use it anyway"
Welp, we've reached the point of shitposting because this has literally nothing to do with the argument at hand.
That's a separation of the issues. I honestly wouldn't care if they didn't put in general chat, I could actually understand why they wouldn't, but no Party chat is lazy.
8-10 year olds. I should have made myself clear.
It is their fault if they don't read the giant label that says "THIS GAME HAS VOICE CHAT DURING ONLINE PLAY. PARENTS CAN SHUT THE OPTION OFF IN THE MENU." Or have it opt-off by default, and say that the game has voice chat and parents can lock it away behind parental controls. parents fault for not reading.
Garrett Hawke
Member
The only way I could think of including it but keeping to Nintendo's (perfectly fair) desire to stop children from hearing the utter garbage that is 90% of public chat would be to have a .10c card fee like they do on the new 3DS to enable the browser.
Omega Kirby
Member
Man I went to sleep for 9 hours and people are still arguing about this?
Tricky I Shadow
Banned
My brain is having trouble processing this post.
Great way to open the Pandora's Box here. Are your opinions facts now? Because some of your points are open to debate.
I also have the opinion, that the game should at least have voice-chat for friends on private and team matches. But playing the game, it didn't felt needed.
"Wait wait wait, there's a dude hiding in the ink right there, let me flank him and you hit him when he gets flushed out"
Yes. All VC brings to the table is a voice. A voice that you can use to create the most basic of on the fly strategies.
I don't understand how people don't get this. This is why people think the Roller is OP. "Just jump over it dude, it's not a big problem".
Lol what?
I play games with my niece, nephew, and their dad. We like to talk at the same time we do that. Guess I'm a creep, guys. Thanks for cleaing that up, Kama_1082.
Mr Fahrenheit
Member
I already said that was my B and I didn't know there was a system wide option for it, but I don't have kids so I just went off what I'd heard from parents.
Relaxed Muscle
Member
"Online Interactions Not Rated by the ESRB" - Warns those who intend to play the game online about possible exposure to chat (text, audio, video) or other types of user-generated content (e.g., maps, skins) that have not been considered in the ESRB rating assignment
It wouldn't matter, all the systems where that game exists has OS level chat, so it's not a good comparison really.
Gotcha. I'm not sure what age I'd feel comfortable, but 8-10 is too young.
MatrixMan.EXE
Member
I did read what you said. Here, I'll paste it here so we can look at it again.
You're going so far as to suggest that its ridiculous for, me and many others in here as consumers, to demand the choice in whether or not we want features that are standard in every other game in the genre to be included?
You then erroneously proceed to compare the need for communication in a 4v4 online multiplayer game to the need to have it in a 1v1 game like chess?
And you're wondering why I'm dumbfounded that a grown man can be saying these things and not in jest?
Gonzo The Great
Banned
To be fair, the Roller isn't OP. It may cover a lot of surface area, but you immediately become a huge target. You also can't spray walls, which a lot of people overlook for some reason.
sure, just mold what I said to fit whatever point you're trying to make. Congrats.
RoboGeorgeForeman
Banned
Can't say I care about the lack of voice chat at all, then again I tend to shy away from voice chat unless I'm playing with friends. Most of the games I play online (Monhan, DeS/DS, and Mario Kart) have very limited or no voice chat at all anyway. Definitely a non-factor in my evaluation of the game.
You're just being unreasonable. Unless that person is a pedo, there's ZERO problems with a grown man befriending a child. God forbid that I actually be friendly to kids.
Lloyd Christmas
Banned
One counter argument I've seen presented in this thread is that the game is designed to represent strategy visually.
Almost ALL online games do this already, especially shooters. Splatoon doesn't have a monopoly on this. Some days I play COD online with zero audio, not even background, and I can easily be the top scorer because of visual cues.
I'm finding this to be a weak argument on the part of the developers and people supporting their decision.
Almost ALL online games do this already, especially shooters. Splatoon doesn't have a monopoly on this. Some days I play COD online with zero audio, not even background, and I can easily be the top scorer because of visual cues.
I'm finding this to be a weak argument on the part of the developers and people supporting their decision.