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[Zen_Arcade]

There's nothing illogical about having a differing opinion. There are some people who are a bit weird and go a bit far in their defense but to brand anyone who disagrees with you as some outlandish cult is borderline harassment. Some people just don't want or care about voice chat. This shouldn't be a massive point of debate or argument yet quite of the usual suspects decided to show up and use another thread as an opportunity to remind everyone that they hate Nintendo's "backwards policies," that anyone who disagrees with them are part of some "defense force," listing Wii U sales, etc. Hell I'm surprised Gonzo didn't just make a new thread about this like he usually does.

If you want to have a good discussion about something, you need to can the fucking hostility and tribalist bullshit. This has gone on too far and needs to stop.

When your opinion is "It's fine for this OPTION to not be in the game because I won't personally use it." Then yes, it's illogical. You could play Splatoon exactly the way you want even if they had included voice chat, but my friends and I CAN'T because we were never given the option.

It's perfectly logical to say that you don't care about voice chat, it's ILLOGICAL to sit there and say "I don't care about voice chat, so everyone else should be fine with not having voice chat and it's perfectly reasonable that the people that want it wont have the option." Which is exactly what the majority of the posts defending this are advocating.

 

[KirbYuuYuu]

I think he addresses it that way since that is what a lot of people bring up as being lost.

The real loss is the friendly banter with friends, which should be an OS level option.



Those are unreliable and you know it. The source is biased towards showing parents and their information rather than the kids under said parents. There is a very large children's demographic on the WiiU, that's why the kids games are still being made (LEGO) and why they keep selling well in spite of every other third party title being abysmal.

For shame!

Do you have actual proof on how large the children demographic is for the Wii U? Because there's nothing stopping adults from picking up games like LEGO City for themselves, either.

 

[Nanashrew]

When people talk to each other online they usually do more than just talk strategy. If this game was built from the ground up to alienate the very audience it's targeting then they've done a bang up job.

I honestly don't think they care much about voice chat at all. Squidboards is more concerned about LAN and stuff. Here's the owner of Squidboards https://twitter.com/TheRapture_/status/597259594667294720

 

[Vena]

People with good connections will use VC and those without will turn off VC to reduce latency. Isn't that how it works?

No. The game is always going to be looking for the VC with some part of its bandwidth.

Any other crazy stuff like that guy saying splatoon is like a real war?

Not as far as I am aware.

 

[TI82]

Do you have actual proof on how large the children demographic is for the Wii U? Because there's nothing stopping adults from picking up games like LEGO City for themselves, either.

Not to mention Lego games are also on every other system, which happen to have voice chat readily available...

 

[Louis Cyphre]

Yeah, that's fine, but I think the thing here is if your notion gels with nintendo's philosophy. You're used to something as a customer because you've gotten it a lot, Nintendo isn't meeting that expectation and you don't think it's justified, but they think it is because of their philosophy of design.



Well that's fine. I'm not defending their lack of voice chat or attacking it. I'm stating valid reasons why they wouldn't approach it. Maybe their netgame simply isn't up to par and they felt that if they included it, it would detract from the game. That would be a justified reason for leaving it out.



Again, that's fine you think that way, but you're not designing the game. You're free to criticize or not buy it, but their games sell, so I don't know that it's true that they're behind the times. I think the admission or omission of a small feature like this wouldn't indicate whether they're trendy or not.



This is assuming that you are the opinion that they are looking for. You can only deem it acceptable enough to buy it, not to make it. I'm not saying they don't do studies or tests of what people want in games like these, I'm saying its only up to them to weigh and consider it for development. Money talks, so if you don't like it, don't buy it until they add it in. As far as complaining and annoyance, I don't care that you do so (all of my posts have been very neutral). What bothers me in topics like these are when people think that there was no care or consideration when designing these things. As someone with a creative background, it's pretty offensive and I don't believe that spouting ones ignorance from an ivory tower (specifically about making design decisions, mind you) will make someone bend to your position.

When I don't like something, I don't buy it. I don't call the people who make it lazy and cheap. I can understand yours and others frustration in this thread, but I think there's such a high level of emotional attachment and pleading that conversations like this do more to put people off your side than to build an empathetic connection with them.

Do you think it was a mistake for Apple to make a phone with a bigger screen? The same argument could be said prior to the iPhone 6. That there wasn't a need to have a larger screen but consumers spoke out and now we have the iPhone 6 Plus and it sold very well. They are also offering a regular iPhone 6. Just because Nintendo games sell well doesn't mean there isn't also an audience speaking out about wanting something as rudimentary as voice chat in a team focused online games. One day Nintendo will have to start listening to their audience.

 

[Crimsonclaw111]

This is still going on... I left at page 17 what in the world.

It's still page 17.

Edit: more crazy stuff, one guy said that immaturity was criticizing and expecting change and that maturity was taking whatever scraps Nintendo threw at him.

 

[KirbYuuYuu]

Not to mention Lego games are also on every other system, which happen to have voice chat readily available...

As well as games for the older audience being on other systems before the Wii U version came out.

 

[TI82]

It's still page 17.

I've got a page 34 at the bottom of my phone

 

[KirbYuuYuu]

I've got a page 34 at the bottom of my phone

100 PpP

 

[BigBadShamoo]

Every shooter should have voice chat as an option.

This. Even PSP shooters, handheld FPS's have had voice chat.

I'll more than likely never get a WiiU due to how Nintendo treats it's online and how it's own company and other publisher/Devs/company's view and handle the entire online infrastructure compared to other consoles.

It really isn't for me. I love the smash series, I bought a Wii alone for brawl alone on launch day, but everything about nintendos online is just so depressing from a gamers point of view. Especially if you've played on anything other than a Nintendo console.

 

[krypt0nian]

QUERY: is there something inherent in Nintendo that fosters the lack of options opinions amongst their fan base?

I'm seeing some bizarre things in this thread.

 

[Air]

Do you think it was a mistake for Apple to make a phone with a bigger screen? The same argument could be said prior to the iPhone 6. That there wasn't a need to have a larger screen but consumers spoke out and now we have the iPhone 6 Plus and it sold very well. They are also offering a regular iPhone 6. Just because Nintendo games sell well doesn't mean there isn't also an audience speaking out about wanting something as rudimentary as voice chat in a team focused online games. One day Nintendo will have to start listening to their audience.

No? It's just business. You're agreeing with me lol.

 

[Vena]

Not to mention Lego games are also on every other system, which happen to have voice chat readily available...

?? Not sure how that's relevant to the point.

Do you have actual proof on how large the children demographic is for the Wii U? Because there's nothing stopping adults from picking up games like LEGO City for themselves, either.

Common sense and Occam's Razor. No one has any proof one way or the other as the numbers presented are from an inherently skewed statistical query that favors parents who buy their kids games... who tend to be in that 18-34 demographic.

 

[test_account]

Yes, but Nintendo's official stance is not to do that. If someone shares a friendcode with a stranger Nintendo will not accept any responsibility for it. It's why they will ban you for doing it on Miiverse.

How does it work with NNID? Cant people contact everyone that post on Miiverse because they can see your NNID?

 

[Psycho_Mantis]

I think he addresses it that way since that is what a lot of people bring up as being lost.

The real loss is the friendly banter with friends, which should be an OS level option.



Those are unreliable and you know it. The source is biased towards showing parents and their information rather than the kids under said parents. There is a very large children's demographic on the WiiU, that's why the kids games are still being made (LEGO) and why they keep selling well in spite of every other third party title being abysmal.

For shame!

whats not to say that the 18-34 years olds are buying LEGO as well.

 

[Chindogg]

The issue people keep having is you don't have to like it. You include the option, allow people to turn it off. Everyone can have their preference. No one loses, except parents who are too incompetent to actually parent.

The weirdness keeps coming in why people are defending not even having the OPTION, as if the mere fact the option exists would somehow infringe on their ability not to use/like said option.

We've had this discussion time and time and time and time and time again. The problem was solved back on the first page. It sucks, but if you don't agree with it vote with your wallet. But here we are 33 pages later with the same cylindrical arguments.

"No voice chat sucks!"
"They didn't add it!"
"Because they didn't want to!"
"Why not add mute for those who don't want it?"
"Because <insert whatever weird or ok justification>"
<return to the top>

Then we get a list of all the things "defenders" have pushed in other threads, as if there's something wrong with having a differing opinion but only listing the most outlandish reasons. That's not conducive to a discussion, that's just straight up character assassination in order to make your points sound stronger. It's wrong and only brings out more hostility. Yet here we are.

As for the option, my guess (here comes my branding) is that they don't want to create an unfair advantage to those who choose to participate in voice chat over those who don't. The director said he didn't like shit flinging at him when he played and maybe he's right in some instance. Then again he could know the power of an organized team over those who have everyone muted. It is 4v4 after all, mute one person and that's a quarter of your team.

Removing VC altogether might not be the best option for everyone, but honestly it's a non-factor since the games are so fast. Some may disagree, but that's their opinion.

When your opinion is "It's fine for this OPTION to not be in the game because I won't personally use it." Then yes, it's illogical. You could play Splatoon exactly the way you want even if they had included voice chat, but my friends and I CAN'T because we were never given the option.

It's perfectly logical to say that you don't care about voice chat, it's ILLOGICAL to sit there and say "I don't care about voice chat, so everyone else should be fine with not having voice chat and it's perfectly reasonable that the people that want it wont have the option." Which is exactly what the majority of the posts defending this are advocating.

There's nothing illogical about it. It's basically telling you that they don't want to give you the power to potentially shit up any games for everyone else. Some people are just sick of voice chat and text due to the insane toxicity in online gaming now.

Not saying that they're necessarily right in their assertion, but it's not illogical at all.

 

[Vena]

How does it work with NNID? Cant people contact everyone that post on Miiverse because they can see your NNID?

You can comment on any Miiverse post, you can't message Miiverse without being friends. I think?

whats not to say that the 18-34 years olds are buying LEGO as well.

Common sense, and the knowledge of the fact that your numbers are statistically skewed.

 

[Oddduck]

How does it work with NNID? Cant people contact everyone that post on Miiverse because they can see your NNID?

All they need to do is click on someone's profile on Miiverse, and click on Friend Request or something like that.

You cant message each other unless you're friends.

 

[test_account]

You can comment on any Miiverse post, you can't message Miiverse without being friends. I think?

What about sending friend request?


EDIT:

All they need to do is click on someone's profile on Miiverse, and click on Friend Request or something like that.

You cant message each other unless you're friends.

You can send requests. The WiiU will always tell you not to accept it if you don't know the source.

Understood. Is that really that much different than sharing friends code though?

 

[Vena]

What about sending friend request?

You can send requests. The WiiU will always tell you not to accept it if you don't know the source.

 

[Overside]

Again. Your mistake is assuming that the only reason people voice chat is for strategic purposes. I like voice chat because I like bullshitting with my friends while playing video games, and there is zero reason to leave the feature out, even if it's not something that YOU would personally use.

And we are back to my first post.

Pointless shit like nintendo being your free phone service has been pushed as more important than actual game design.

 

[AyaisMUsikWhore]

Every company has their group on this site, no doubts about it, but you guys aren't being profound or anything by drawing attention to the same cluster of posters. The thread's lost its purpose really, and now it's turning into people (including you) quoting Gonzo's post and adding the oh-so-insightful "This", "Yup", or any other variant.

You either fall into the camps of agree, disagree, or indifference. Let the ridiculous sides of each respective camp display themselves, there's no need to devolve into just calling people out and patting like-minded posters on the back for further derailment and fuckery.

I've been in this thread before that quote and my stance remain the same. If it's a team oriented game, I don't see the harm in having the option to turn voice chat on or off. If you build the environment of fun, I think being fun friendly is what you are going to receive from your community. If Nintendo doesn't trust their own fan base, children and adults a like, to continue that all the way into the game, then the game shouldn't have an online proponent and should have stayed local.

But since they made the decision to be online, they also made the decision to comply with basic online feature, which voice chat is apart of especially in this new day and age.

What I don't like is if you are calling out those who, like that post, make excuses for the stuff Nintendo signs up for which we as normal adults and kids in this day and age expect them to follow as all others - it is seen as "immature", "complaining" or whatever other ridiculous word use to describe "having opinion" and "honest real world expectations". There is no patting on the back or entertaining "fuckery" when there is truth to what is being said.

You are also free to agree to disagree. However, it's annoyance in frequency to how much is put into perspective when you see how many backwards decisions Nintendo has made and the many who make excuses, not "defending", to why they shouldn't be criticized for it - is pretty damn high.

 

[Amir0x]

We've had this discussion time and time and time and time and time again. The problem was solved back on the first page. It sucks, but if you don't agree with it vote with your wallet. But here we are 33 pages later with the same cylindrical arguments.

Most threads have cyclical arguments when they go on so long, because many people are discussing it and they are different from the people who were discussing it earlier. I didn't get in this topic until quite late by page count terms for example. You're not stating anything special for this subject.

Similarly, the issue is Splatoon is set to bomb either way. I know it hurts to hear it, but it's a new IP on the Wii U. It's going to be thanking its lucky stars to do 300k. How will Nintendo interpret this? "oh, they didn't like lack of voice chat, time to include it!" Or.. "Wii U is a cosmic bomb, no chance anyway." Right.

Also, people have complained about lack of voice chat in Nintendo online games for ages. They have voted with their wallet. They still are backwards. Sorry you don't like that, but that's what it is - backwards. Including the option and giving everyone a choice is forwards.

As for the option, my guess (here comes my branding) is that they don't want to create an unfair advantage to those who choose to participate in voice chat over those who don't. The director said he didn't like shit flinging at him when he played and maybe he's right in some instance. Then again he could know the power of an organized team over those who have everyone muted. It is 4v4 after all, mute one person and that's a quarter of your team.

Removing VC altogether might not be the best option for everyone, but honestly it's a non-factor since the games are so fast. Some may disagree, but that's their opinion.

Oh, hilarious. So they recognize the value of the voice chat, but decided to pander instead to their worser instincts for nannying people. If this is true it's even worse.

 

[Vena]

Understood. Is that really that much different than sharing friends code though?

The friendcode thing is old from before NNIDs existed, since the 3DS is older than that system. But it would be a line of consistency with "Do not share personal information here."

 

[Chindogg]

I've been in this thread before that quote and my stance remain the same. If it's a team oriented game, I don't see the harm in having the option to turn voice chat on or off. If you build the environment of fun, I think being fun friendly is what you are going to receive from your community. If Nintendo doesn't trust their own fan base, children and adults a like, to continue that all the way into the game, then the game shouldn't have an online proponent and should have stayed local.

But since they made the decision to be online, they also made the decision to comply with basic online feature, which voice chat is apart of especially in this new day and age.

What I don't like is if you are calling out those who, like that post, make excuses for the stuff Nintendo signs up for which we as normal adults and kids in this day and age expect them to follow as all others - is seen as "immature", "complaining" or whatever other ridiculous word use to describe "having opinion" and "honest real world expectations". There is no patting on the back when there is truth to what is being said.

You are also free to agree to disagree. However, it's annoyance in frequency to how much is put into perspective when you see how many backwards decisions Nintendo has made and the many who make excuses, not "defending", to why they shouldn't be criticized for it - is pretty damn high.

Hearthstone's online. Where's it's basic online features?

Most threads have cyclical arguments when they go on so long, because many people are discussing it and they are different from the people who were discussing it earlier. I didn't get in this topic until quite late by page count terms for example. You're not stating anything special for this subject.

Similarly, the issue is Splatoon is set to bomb either way. I know it hurts to hear it, but it's a new IP on the Wii U. It's going to be thanking its lucky stars to do 300k. How will Nintendo interpret this? "oh, they didn't like lack of voice chat, time to include it!" Or.. "Wii U is a cosmic bomb, no chance anyway." Right.

Also, people have complained about lack of voice chat in Nintendo online games for ages. They have voted with their wallet. They still are backwards. Sorry you don't like that, but that's what it is - backwards. Including the option and giving everyone a choice is forwards.

And that's your opinion. Fine by me. I just don't understand the vitriol and circlejerking when it comes to asserting opinions around here. It's really become tiring when it's in every single Nintendo related thread.

Oh, hilarious. So they recognize the value of the voice chat, but decided to pander instead to their worser instincts for nannying people. If this is true it's even worse.

This is the same company that shut down an entire messaging service because some pedo used it to accost kids. A scorched earth policy with communication features is nothing new for Nintendo.

 

[TI82]

100 PpP

Yuck, no thanks.

QUERY: is there something inherent in Nintendo that fosters the lack of options opinions amongst their fan base?

I'm seeing some bizarre things in this thread.

Fanboys exist on all platforms and say some weird stuff man.

?? Not sure how that's relevant to the point.



Common sense and Occam's Razor. No one has any proof one way or the other as the numbers presented are from an inherently skewed statistical query that favors parents who buy their kids games... who tend to be in that 18-34 demographic.

You said Wii U has a childish fanbase and used the Lego games as an indicator that they must be selling childish games well since they continue to be made. Therefore all the systems have childish fanbase...

 

[Zen_Arcade]

We've had this discussion time and time and time and time and time again. The problem was solved back on the first page. It sucks, but if you don't agree with it vote with your wallet. But here we are 33 pages later with the same cylindrical arguments.

"No voice chat sucks!"
"They didn't add it!"
"Because they didn't want to!"
"Why not add mute for those who don't want it?"
"Because <insert whatever weird or ok justification>"
<return to the top>

Then we get a list of all the things "defenders" have pushed in other threads, as if there's something wrong with having a differing opinion but only listing the most outlandish reasons. That's not conducive to a discussion, that's just straight up character assassination in order to make your points sound stronger. It's wrong and only brings out more hostility. Yet here we are.

As for the option, my guess (here comes my branding) is that they don't want to create an unfair advantage to those who choose to participate in voice chat over those who don't. The director said he didn't like shit flinging at him when he played and maybe he's right in some instance. Then again he could know the power of an organized team over those who have everyone muted. It is 4v4 after all, mute one person and that's a quarter of your team.

Removing VC altogether might not be the best option for everyone, but honestly it's a non-factor since the games are so fast. Some may disagree, but that's their opinion.



There's nothing illogical about it. It's basically telling you that they don't want to give you the power to potentially shit up any games for everyone else. Some people are just sick of voice chat and text due to the insane toxicity in online gaming now.

Not saying that they're necessarily right in their assertion, but it's not illogical at all.

Yes it is. When every other game gives you the option to mute those people or turn off voice chat, it's completely illogical to ignore that and claim that harassment is defense for leaving voice chat out of the game when other systems and games have fixed this problem while leaving in voice chat for those who still want it.

 

[Dion Blaster]

Put me on team "how the hell is there no voice chat (or matchmaking) in 2015?"

 

[Trey]

It's generally not a good idea to restrict options. Especially when it comes to fundamental features like real time voice chat, which has so much utility and has been a gaming staple for almost as long as team based games existed.

While this fact is reason enough to call bullshit on any reasoning for foregoing the feature, the situation also measures up to certain Nintendo attributes such as their incompetence with online features.

 

[Vena]

You said Wii U has a childish fanbase and used the Lego games as an indicator that they must be selling childish games well since they continue to be made. Therefore all the systems have childish fanbase...

Childish? No, they have a large children's demographic.

The fact that the PS4/X1 have OS level chat support is another matter entirely and I do think the WiiU needs this level of basic functionality. I'm not sure where you're going with this?

 

[AyaisMUsikWhore]

Hearthstone's online. Where's it's basic online features?

I've never played Hearthstone so I can't tell you why. But that may be something you want to ask the developers.

Also, is Hearthstone on consoles or been in the console space for years where this is something that we expect?

 

[BGBW]

Okay, but now explain Wii U Chat.

Kids can add any random person on Miiverse as their "friend" correct? They can add strangers as their friends without parents knowing. Which means, any stranger can contact your kids through Wii U Chat.

What is the difference between strangers requesting a video chat with your kids through "Wii U Chat" and strangers chatting with you during Splatoon? Because let's be honest here... kids are going to meet strangers on Miiverse, and they will add them as friends.

If you can set up parental controls for Wii U video Chat, then why aren't there parental controls for in-game voice chat?

One is accepting that you know who the other person is. Once you accept the request you have said to Nintendo you knew them and thus they can say they are not fully responsible.

Random voice chat during a round of Splatoon, on the other hand, will be with people you haven't chosen.

That's the difference.

We've seen this in games like Mario Kart and Smash where you can chat with friends but not randoms.

 

[test_account]

And we are back to my first post.

Pointless shit like nintendo being your free phone service has been pushed as more important than actual game design.

This is subjective, but some games can be more enjoyable simply by chatting with other people while playing. Kinda like that some games can be more fun when playing local multiplayer eventhough that online multiplayer is also available.

The friendcode thing is old from before NNIDs existed, since the 3DS is older than that system. But it would be a line of consistency with "Do not share personal information here."

Sure, i'm just curious about the information sharing. If you post on Miiverse, everyone can see your username, and isnt that kinda the same as sharing a friend code?

 

[Louis Cyphre]

There's nothing illogical about having a differing opinion. There are some people who are a bit weird and go a bit far in their defense but to brand anyone who disagrees with you as some outlandish cult is borderline harassment. Some people just don't want or care about voice chat. This shouldn't be a massive point of debate or argument yet quite a few of the usual suspects decided to show up and use another thread as an opportunity to remind everyone that they hate Nintendo's "backwards policies," that anyone who disagrees with them are part of some "defense force," listing Wii U sales, etc. Hell I'm surprised Gonzo didn't just make a new thread about this like he usually does.

If you want to have a good discussion about something, you need to can the fucking hostility and tribalist bullshit. This has gone on too far and needs to stop.

Think about it, your opinion serves only your needs. Allowing voice chat as an OPTION serves everyone. So yes, it is indeed backward policies. It is what it is and if they leave it out that is their decision, not one chosen by the public. Having this discussion is enlightening to say the least.

 

[Sendou]

To be honest I'm not so much worried about children hearing bad words when using voice chat. I'm more conserned for the well being of all forms of life when you have a room of 8 people using GamePad built-in microphone to chat.

 

[Amir0x]

I've never played Hearthstone so I can't tell you why. But that may be something you want to ask the developers

Well we know Ben Kechura agrees with Nintendo's decision lol

 

[GloveSlap]

Back when Nintendo (and diehard Nintendo fans) defended their lack of online play it was all about how joking around with your friends in local multiplayer was better.

Now, in defense of no voice chat, it doesn't matter if you can talk to your friends or not. The irony being that online multiplayer WITh voice chat is the closest you can get to recreating local multiplayer while playing online.

So anyone still defending no voice chat...go get 3 friends to play Mario Party on your couch, but make it a rule beforehand that nobody can talk or make any noise. See how much fun you have playing in dead silence. Then you might start to understand.

 

[TI82]

Childish? No, they have a large children's demographic.

The fact that the PS4/X1 have OS level chat support is another matter entirely and I do think the WiiU needs this level of basic functionality. I'm not sure where you're going with this?

I'm confused why you are against splatoon itself having voice chat then, because it seems like your argument is based on the Wii U having a children demographic but as we've seen all consoles have that. I'd say with the extreme sales of minecraft on all other consoles you might even be able to say the other systems have a children demographic equal to the Wii Us. And they still have voice chat in game, and in party.

So what is your basis again...?

 

[Vena]

I'm confused why you are against splatoon itself having voice chat then, because it seems like your argument is based on the Wii U having a children demographic but as we've seen all consoles have that. I'd say with the extreme sales of minecraft on all other consoles you might even be able to say the other systems have a children demographic equal to the Wii Us. And they still have voice chat in game, and in party.

So what is your basis again...?

I am? Since when?

Have I been sleep keyboarding again?!

 

[krypt0nian]

Fanboys exist on all platforms and say some weird stuff man.

Oh true enough. BUT you don't see anyone else approving of a lack of options like you do with Nintendo fans in general.

 

[TI82]

I've never played Hearthstone so I can't tell you why. But that may be something you want to ask the developers.

Also, is Hearthstone on consoles or been in the console space for years where this is something that we expect?

Nope. The reason is that Hearthstone is exclusively a 1v1 card game. Not a team based shooter. Though an after game chat would be fine.

 

[marc^o^]

Put me on team "how the hell is there no voice chat (or matchmaking) in 2015?"

What's disappointing is the GamePad has a micro, speakers and everyone would use it for this game. The voice chat set up would be as easy as it could possibly be.

Whatever, the game needs to be awesome on its own.

A bad game is a bad game, voice chat or not. An amazing game could be better, but still remain amazing even with no voice chat. I hope Splatoon will be just that.

 

[BGBW]

Put me on team "how the hell is there no voice chat (or matchmaking) in 2015?"

I thought there was matchmaking. The game gives you a grade and pairs you up with people with the same grade.

 

[torre_avenue]

I actually agree with Nintendo on this one because it makes perfect sense. Splatoon is supposed to be a family friendly game, so why the hell would I want to implement a system which will allow players to call one another incredibly shitty things? Any team based multiplayer game out there has majority of its voice chat users use it to say terrible things about anyone doing badly, especially in public servers/random matchmaking. If you want to play competitively in Splatoon with friends, then I can see why this pisses you off. But for a game that is aimed at young children, why would you want to put in a system that allows hyper-competitive players to swear at kids if they're not doing well? Just look at games like CS:GO, LoL, DOTA 2.

 

[Chindogg]

Oh true enough. BUT you don't see anyone else approving of a lack of options like you do with Nintendo fans in general.

Did you hang out in the Destiny threads by any chance?

 

[Vena]

I thought there was matchmaking. The game gives you a grade and pairs you up with people with the same grade.

He's talking about the August update that adds pre-made team matchmaking.

 

[Gucci Messiah]

Hearthstone's online. Where's it's basic online features?



And that's your opinion. Fine by me. I just don't understand the vitriol and circlejerking when it comes to asserting opinions around here. It's really become tiring when it's in every single Nintendo related thread.
.

Seems like it's only a "circlejerk" when the opinions don't align with your own. There's a reason why a lot of people are slamming Nintendo over this and it isn't because of some anti-Nintendo agenda.

 

[krypt0nian]

What's disappointing is the GamePad has a micro, speakers and everyone would use it for this game. The voice chat set up would be as easy as it could possibly be.

Whatever, the game needs to be awesome on its own.

A bad game is a bad game, voice chat or not. An amazing game could be better, but still remain amazing even with no voice chat. I hope Splatoon will be just that.

This is such a great post, and marc^o^ is True Blue Nintendo. KUDOS.

Did you hang out in the Destiny threads by any chance?

Oh game by game sure. I'm talking system level. It's right embarrassing.

 

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I actually agree with Nintendo on this one because it makes perfect sense. Splatoon is supposed to be a family friendly game,

So is Minecraft. Next