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I'm done with Television
- Thread starter Madflavor
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That's hilarious. Is the shot on the right the actual final cut used for the show?
ZeroZeroZero comes to mind.Madflavor take a long break then fix your algorithm when you return.
Don't let Stranger Things of all shows be the one to break you.
Also don't bother following trending shows anymore. I know it's a scary thing to jump in blind, but you'll be better off in finding hidden gems that way.
Only 2 out of my top ten TV shows this year were actually discussed at large on social media sites and GAF, and even then I'd argue the two more popular ones were quickly drowned out by other, larger, releases.
Such a quality show that was.
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Don't.
First of all because shows that were actually good over its entire lifespan are very, very rare even in the past. Secondly there's a lot of shows that actually have REALLY good jumping off points, where most of it is resolved and is left in a decent state and the show should have ended.
That by far not only applies to tv, but its just something I live by. I'm done letting shitty decisions ruin what I actually did enjoy. I've learned to embrace the headcanon and I'm happier for it. Got enough imagination for it anyway.
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Sticks
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It's true that even the best shows often had a dip in quality, but there's a world of difference between this and a show unravelling so badly (or just stopping with no conclusion) that it retroactively ruins the whole thing.
If someone asked me whether they should start watching (or reading) GoT now, I would absolutely say don't bother.
If someone asked me whether they should start watching (or reading) GoT now, I would absolutely say don't bother.
Quasicat
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Most of the TV shows I watch are pre 2010 and are super cheap on DVD/Bluray. I then upload them onto my Plex server and throw them in a box in the closet. I'm always seeing something from my childhood or something I missed that came out before I was born and picking it up under $20.
If I don't like the show, then I delete it and move on.
If I don't like the show, then I delete it and move on.
Fbh
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I mostly like limited/mini series these days.
Stuff like Chernobyl, ZeroZeroZero, Midnight Mass, Fargo S1/2, True Detective S1, etc.
Better paced and more concise stories that don't get stretched to oblivion with endless seasons that seem to take longer and longer to come out.
I'm mostly done with this modern format of "well the season is done, hope you enjoyed that cliffhanger. See you in 4 fucking years with a season that will likely disappoint". Even though I still get caught by some of them every now and then (like Severance and Pluribus).
For these longer shows, now I mostly wait until they are all done, even if it takes 10 years, and if by the end the consensus is still that it's great I'll just binge watch it.
Stuff like Chernobyl, ZeroZeroZero, Midnight Mass, Fargo S1/2, True Detective S1, etc.
Better paced and more concise stories that don't get stretched to oblivion with endless seasons that seem to take longer and longer to come out.
I'm mostly done with this modern format of "well the season is done, hope you enjoyed that cliffhanger. See you in 4 fucking years with a season that will likely disappoint". Even though I still get caught by some of them every now and then (like Severance and Pluribus).
For these longer shows, now I mostly wait until they are all done, even if it takes 10 years, and if by the end the consensus is still that it's great I'll just binge watch it.
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6502
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Tried watching some old shows over Christmas, it was difficult.. I had to put my phone down to keep up because every shot served a purpose! They simply don't make it worth paying attention to today.
One change i'd love to see is an innovation from the porn industry... a straight, gay, trans option when the app loads up.
I was watching a new bbc mini series the other night and two episodes in it was gay sex, gay star, gay drama. In one scene two disabled people working the tech... cuz you know one wheelchair is a token, two is brave! Of course it mattered not for the story or characters one jot, but we must slap a few dicks in families faces and tick boxes or it just aint right. I expect Netflix rewriting history and making a tornado disaster documentory about someones personal battle with their sexuality but I can choose to cancel that shit.
If these priority themes could be categorised I could have avoided this and watch something with good writing and those who get a kick out of it could have got straight to it. At present talentless perverts are earning a living and getting a thrill out of ruining everything.
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HRK69
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I get it 100%. Nothing kills the hype faster than a massive cliffhanger that leaves you screaming at the screen... only for the next season to take 3 years to drop, and then it lands with a whimper. The buildup dies, you barely remember the stakes, the actors have visibly aged and suddenly the payoff feels flat or straight-up disappointing. 100% a legit complaint.
That said, there's another side worth hearing: a lot of these long gaps come from chasing actual quality in a post prestige era. Shows are way more ambitious now: movie-level VFX (dragons, Upside Down horrors), tighter serialized writing, bigger sets and bigger-name talent who juggle multiple projects
Back in the 2000s, networks cranked out 22+ episodes a year with formulaic stuff, but today's 8-10 episode "prestige" seasons take serious time to polish. Creators often say they need extra months (or years) to top the last one without rushing and tanking it (hello, some late GoT seasons). Strikes, COVID fallout, and data driven execs waiting for metrics haven't helped either
So yeah it sucks when it disappoints (House of the Dragon S2 felt slow/underwhelming after its 2 year wait), but when the long game delivers? It can feel earned.
Still, I think most of us would trade some of that "perfectionism" for not getting blue-balled for years
That said, there's another side worth hearing: a lot of these long gaps come from chasing actual quality in a post prestige era. Shows are way more ambitious now: movie-level VFX (dragons, Upside Down horrors), tighter serialized writing, bigger sets and bigger-name talent who juggle multiple projects
Back in the 2000s, networks cranked out 22+ episodes a year with formulaic stuff, but today's 8-10 episode "prestige" seasons take serious time to polish. Creators often say they need extra months (or years) to top the last one without rushing and tanking it (hello, some late GoT seasons). Strikes, COVID fallout, and data driven execs waiting for metrics haven't helped either
So yeah it sucks when it disappoints (House of the Dragon S2 felt slow/underwhelming after its 2 year wait), but when the long game delivers? It can feel earned.
Still, I think most of us would trade some of that "perfectionism" for not getting blue-balled for years
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EverydayBeast
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What's the problem? Make an opinion?
SupaComputa
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Most TV series are and always have been slop. There's a few gems, but the format does not encourage high art. Sitcoms made sense, but these long running stories that have 10 episodes of ideas stretched to 4+ seasons are almost always bad.
To paraphrase Patrice O'Neal, I ask my girlfriend to tell me the end of the story before I invest in the whole thing.
To paraphrase Patrice O'Neal, I ask my girlfriend to tell me the end of the story before I invest in the whole thing.
Poppinfresh
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It's not the same since Bob Barker left.
Even more depressing, 18-year-old adults today were born after Bob Barker left the show. They have never known a world where Drew Carey wasn't the host of The Price is Right.
Trogdor1123
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I've wondered this myself lately about why everything takes so much longer now. It's not just a few things, it's everything related to entertainment.
This reminds of how games are reaching unsustainable levels of cost and time consumption.
What is actually driving this time extension?
This reminds of how games are reaching unsustainable levels of cost and time consumption.
What is actually driving this time extension?
The Cockatrice
I'm retarded?
Theres like a million modern shows that are generally praised that might click for you. Keep looking if one thing doesnt click with you and stop living in the past/nostalgia bubble. Shows aren't worse, it's just your taste.
Well its primary the rise of streaming services and the content produced through it. You're not bound to any tv schedule. And after that had taken off it became more and more the norm. As for why its advantages: Attract more A-Listers, no time constraints like you have when producing yearly content and perceived *increase in quality*.
I personally think all of these advantages come with downsides too and I'm actually sad it's going extinct. Old *TV* Shows was prodcued by groups of people that saw each other most of the year and maximized themselves within their constraints. It was a job. Newer shows are extended movie productions with sequels.
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DeepEnigma
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The Cockatrice
I'm retarded?
Must suck to be depressed and not enjoy things anymore huh? Quite the claim to state all shows are shit nowadays. No sane person would ever say so.
I collect VHS tapes
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Newest season of black mirror had a great episode about AI generated tv
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The Cockatrice
I'm retarded?
That made literally no sense. Copium? Narcissism? You deserve my tag. You're not proving me otherwise aside from shitposting. Are you saying and this is at the top of my head, shows like Dexter Ress, Severance, Andor, etc. or the hundreds of asian cinema such as Mouse, Taxi Driver, etc. are all bad?
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DeepEnigma
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Okay, Cock.
Do people use hyperbole? Sure. Are things more intelligently written than before on average? No.
OP outlined what he felt were the golden years.
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The Cockatrice
I'm retarded?
Represent.
Represent(ative) of bad opinions
This is why I still respect the fuck out of The Walking Dead, no matter how badly most of you miserable slobs shit on it.
They gave us 16 episodes per season, every season, every single year, for 13 years. Plus multiple spinoffs. They worked hard as hell.
That show was the last of its kind. Wont see anything like it again
Bu bu they killed Glenn, I stopped watching - STFU. They actually produced episodes at a proper pace.
I will always respect The Walking Dead.
They gave us 16 episodes per season, every season, every single year, for 13 years. Plus multiple spinoffs. They worked hard as hell.
That show was the last of its kind. Wont see anything like it again
Bu bu they killed Glenn, I stopped watching - STFU. They actually produced episodes at a proper pace.
I will always respect The Walking Dead.
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DreamcastSkies
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I feel you, OP. I kind of want to (mostly) be done with gaming and just play 1-3 games a year. I want to create something (and read more) and as much as I have fun with games, I don't think I have time for responsibilities, work on creating something, and game regularly.
