Yeah, in that case I would tell the school to fuck off. There is no way I would be shelling out that kind of money to be treated like some kind of afterthought.
I'm not sure what to do anymore.
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Yeah, in that case I would tell the school to fuck off. There is no way I would be shelling out that kind of money to be treated like some kind of afterthought.
The thing is I was hoping to get into the major and start learning about it, and by learning more and more, I could get an idea about what I wanted to do. I was always leaning towards IT because that always fascinated me the most. But as others has said earlier in the thread, if I'm struggling in math ( college algebra to be exact) then maybe Computer Science isn't for me. Which means I have wasted an entire year trying to get passed this. I literally don't know what else I want to do if this fails. And that scares me.
LiveFromKyoto
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I hate to break it to you, but a computer science degree doesn't change that in any way. With so much overseas competition, the tech industry's a total grindfest these days.
Oh, I did. I transferred out after a year of shit professors and more grad students teaching classes than should be legal. Fuck you North Carolina State.
You're not alone, man. There's nothing wrong with taking a break for a semester and getting your bearings straight. Maybe your school has a counselor or your advisor could help steer you in the right direction. If your passion truly lies in CS or IT, then stick with 'em, but if not, it's not the end of the world.
Lol, I know that feel OP.
Feels like my whole college life, well, most times I didnt actually fail, but I always felt like I was on the cusp, or that the results of the test were pretty dire in that I didnt know if I passed or failed. I'm actually still in Comp Sci, but at this point, I'm in deep enough that I dont think dropping out is an option. Heh, always tell yourself in the days leading up to the tests that next time your going to learn your lesson and be more prepared/study harder, start earlier, but then you never do. I'm just a lazy kid I guess.
Feels like my whole college life, well, most times I didnt actually fail, but I always felt like I was on the cusp, or that the results of the test were pretty dire in that I didnt know if I passed or failed. I'm actually still in Comp Sci, but at this point, I'm in deep enough that I dont think dropping out is an option. Heh, always tell yourself in the days leading up to the tests that next time your going to learn your lesson and be more prepared/study harder, start earlier, but then you never do. I'm just a lazy kid I guess.
Well I've already failed it once and following semester, I had to drop it, because of time isssues with my job (huge fuck up on my part). So if I fail it this time, I can't retake it, which will effectively torpedo my goal of getting a CS degree.
you fall down, you get back up. Don't stop trying to become something because it didn't happen easily, or today. If you want it, go and get it, study harder, get a tutor if need be, pass the damn test and get going on the comptuer science if that is your ultimate goal. But don't give up on success because it was hard and you feel bad about yourself or some shit.
Sorry, military here, not gonna sugarcoat it, but you control your fate and future, so get out there and get it bud.
Sorry, military here, not gonna sugarcoat it, but you control your fate and future, so get out there and get it bud.
Yeah if you are having problems with College Algebra you may want to either retake the course with a different teacher and see how you fair, study on your own more (sucks), or start to rethink the whole CS major.
Good luck!
College Algebra.
I considered switching my major to CS so I signed up for CS class this past semester. I looked at the assignments, knew I'd be lost if I continued with the course since I suck at math and programming, and dropped it after like the first day lol.
Just sticking with business now. I might go for an Econ degree. Honestly if you suck at math (in general, not just this one class or even just this one test you failed) I'd consider something else. It's just gonna get harder...
Just sticking with business now. I might go for an Econ degree. Honestly if you suck at math (in general, not just this one class or even just this one test you failed) I'd consider something else. It's just gonna get harder...
If you can't pass a "math" exam you're not cut out for CS anyway. Just being honest with you. IT is NOT computer science. Completely different thing in every regard. If that's what you want to do then don't sweat it.
You can get a degree in damn near anything and add a couple of certs and be perfectly successful in IT.
You can get a degree in damn near anything and add a couple of certs and be perfectly successful in IT.
Baron Aloha
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I had to take Calc 2 and Linear Algebra for my CS degree and we never used calculators on tests. But I had a really good professor.
That is the shit I always mess up on...Tedious calculations and forgetting a small detail.
Not true.
If it's CS related, you might have some specific parts of the exams where you need tools to avoid fastidious "dumb" technical calculus but you don't need necessarily one in fundamental maths for algebra, analysis, geometry. (pure concepts)
I used to like math exams with no calculators, as the numbers were easier to work with. My mental math is as fast as I would be on a calculator until I am working with 3-4 digits, so I suppose that helps.
Sucks that the prof changed the parameters of the exam with no warning though.
Sucks that the prof changed the parameters of the exam with no warning though.
I saw the catalog for CIS and it doesn't require as many math/theory classes as CIS but it still has a bunch of programming requirements.
What, seriously man? Don't think like that.
I just failed my math class (not a math major, but this is the 2nd time). I have one more shot at it.
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I failed my French class OP, don't feel bad.
Well, you can talk to some of the people you know in the class and see how they did. If you weren't prepared to take the final without a calculator, there is a pretty good chance that other people weren't either. Chances are that there might be a curve if everyone didn't do so hot and hopefully it will be enough for you to pass the class.
How did you do on your previous quizzes/exams?
Struggling on college algebra? whew... it will be tough going for a full blown CS degree. You can do it, you will just have to put in the time. Youtube is a great resource for sections that you don't fully grasp. It helped me in the past. With that being said, a lot of the computer degrees in my school require at least Calc. CIS requires up to Calc 2. You still have a ways to go.
You will just have to really think hard of where you want your career to head. It is a tough thing to do. Hell, I am 30 myself and have no idea what direction I want to head myself.
92 for Homework and I think a 70 for quiz ( together equals 25%)
77 on test 2 and ..58 on test 1(I think) (together equals 45%)
My IT degree still required calc and discrete mathematics.
Oh god everyone look, it's the life veteran.
Well if I fail this class I won't be able to retake it I don't think.
youngwerther
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Oh shut the fuck up, you fucking prick.
My argument to this whenever something like this comes up is since it is the real world... Let me use all the tools I have at my disposal in the real world, that includes text, notes, calculators, help from other coworkers (students), and finally the internet.
A lot of the teachers I had never worked in the "real" world.. Went from being a student to a teacher.
Black Door
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No calculator in an advanced math class?
Time to get a refund, OP
Time to get a refund, OP
Don't you need college algebra for your math requirement anyhow? or is there a simpler form of math?
Yeah but I hate to agree with what most people are saying but if your struggling with College Algebra, then I really REALLY suggest you rethink your degree because the math only gets harder.
Yeah but I hate to agree with what most people are saying but if your struggling with College Algebra, then I really REALLY suggest you rethink your degree because the math only gets harder.
Now, I took a very different, non-math course through my education, but can someone explain to me why calculators wouldn't be allowed in...any class?
I mean, we're walking around with incredibly powerful computers in our pockets, so denying the existence of a massive convenience seems a little backwards. If you understand the theory, and know what to do, then a calculator will speed up application, but it isn't giving you the answer.
On the same note, I sometimes wonder if kids still learn calligraphy, another seemingly antiquated thing in education.
I mean, we're walking around with incredibly powerful computers in our pockets, so denying the existence of a massive convenience seems a little backwards. If you understand the theory, and know what to do, then a calculator will speed up application, but it isn't giving you the answer.
On the same note, I sometimes wonder if kids still learn calligraphy, another seemingly antiquated thing in education.
youngwerther
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OP, I want to be a voice of reassurance amidst the crowd of naysayers. The math gets harder but so will you. Other people's lack of struggle at your level doesn't mean that they didn't struggle at other levels. You will struggle at every level, but you can still do it as long as you apply yourself.
That doesn't sound right.
Have you failed it before?
I know at my college if you fail a class you can retake it. And if you get a better grade the next time, the f is exempt from your gpa and that new grade replaces it.
Memento_Mori15
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Wait a minute, there are universities that actually allow calculators in calc(let alone any kind of math class) and beyond? I was never allowed to use a calculator at all...
Any word on a curve? That might happen.
Any word on a curve? That might happen.
EatinOlives
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OK so first thing you need to do immediately is not to panic. You've been "in shock" (as you put it) for a while, but take a breather.
I don't know if you're up for answering a couple of questions but here goes: what math class is this? Is this a CS-taught discrete math course or a pure regular class from a math department like calculus and whatnot? Why do you say this is your "last attempt"? Are you actually getting kicked out or are you just really that discouraged? If the latter, how many times have you taken that class? Have you sought out help with a study group/buddy, tutoring, TA office hours, anything of that kind? What year are you and what year level is this class?
I don't know if you're up for answering a couple of questions but here goes: what math class is this? Is this a CS-taught discrete math course or a pure regular class from a math department like calculus and whatnot? Why do you say this is your "last attempt"? Are you actually getting kicked out or are you just really that discouraged? If the latter, how many times have you taken that class? Have you sought out help with a study group/buddy, tutoring, TA office hours, anything of that kind? What year are you and what year level is this class?
Al Gore's Thermostat
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Don't feel bad, I probably failed my stats exam with a calculator.
Just gotta keep truckin'
Just gotta keep truckin'
Then find out asap (tomorrow) if you can take it again.... if that's what you want to do.
I failed some classes last semester, retook them this semester and aced them.... but now I failed another class this semester so i'll have to take it again. It sucks, but we can't give up.
speaking of accounting i just took the final for that class... oh god, that test felt impossible. good thing I'm not majoring in it.
and that was just the intro course
anyways I'm sure things won't be that bad OP. i would definitely talk to an administrator about the whole calculator thing though.
It's not a denial of technology thing, it's an anti-cheating thing. Graphing calculators can easily save a lot of things in their memory...formulas, sample problems, whatever the student is clever enough to record...so they're right out.
Only allowing calculators that can do basic math is another option, but still raises other questions...are there devices out there that look like calculators that could be used for inter-student communications? how worthwhile is basic addition/multiplication and such when you're doing full-out calculus? It's just easier to ban calculators.
For most of my math classes, calculators were banned, but profs and TA's loved partial credit. If you have the process right but botched a basic calculation, you'd still get most of the points.
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