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I used to be a 3.0 college student, but nowadays I just don't give a shit. I want to be a filmmaker, and my first film has done well at a local festival. Unfortunately, my college doesn't have a film program, so I'm doing Psychology as a major. And while parts are interesting, I cannot motivate myself to study for things like statistics that I have no interest in.

So I have a final at 10am tomorrow. And I haven't studied at all, and I'm just dinking around the intar-net. And I don't really care.

I think part of it is that throughout my school career, I've always been able to pull a decent grade at the last second. And I mean always, I've never had a failing experience and have always been able to make up for serious slacking.

I need to get close to 100% on this final to get a C in this class.

Whoooooooo.

I think I'll take a nap.
 
Conditioning.

I don't mean to sound like a lazy ass. I work extremely hard at my full time job, but I can't really get going as far as school is concerned. I'm a senior now, and I thought that I'd probably be able to graduate before I completely burned out. But it would seem that I'm wrong.
 
Mine don't start till Monday. It sucks cause I have exams till the fricken 21st! Might as well have one on fricken Christmas.
 
When you stop caring - its time to seriously consider not continuing. Don't know the terms of your school or the film schools in your region but wouldn't it have been good to maintain that 3.x GPA and transfer to one of them?
 
LakeEarth said:
Mine don't start till Monday. It sucks cause I have exams till the fricken 21st! Might as well have one on fricken Christmas.

Hah. I have two finals (physics and organic chem-- yay!) on Dec. 23rd. I said the same thing about having one on Christmas lol. :P
 
Phoenix said:
When you stop caring - its time to seriously consider not continuing. Don't know the terms of your school or the film schools in your region but wouldn't it have been good to maintain that 3.x GPA and transfer to one of them?

There aren't any decent ones that are local. I'm too poor to go out of state.
 
I have a final in 30 minutes -- yesterday I didn't care because I figured "if you're prepared, you're prepared" so I didn't sweat it too much. Now I'm nervous, jittering, and on the verge of a breakdown because I do NOT have time to take this class again if I fail. I have to graduate in June and this is one of my last elective courses...

Problem is that it's not that I don't care, but I so stressed and worked to the bone that I don't have the energy to. I wish I had more time to study and all that other good stuff, but honestly, I'm beginning to see a point where I just can't maintain any kind of intellectual stability or interest unless I destract myself -- a LOT, and it's become progressively worse since finals have become so much more closer.

I'd rather play games, or just sit by idly watching the forums refresh constantly; "Hopefully someone will post something interesting" I tell myself, forever delaying the impending pressure of finally getting to work but falling asleep in the process because I'm so exhausted.... I eventually just learn not to because it's so depressing how I don't get the things done that I want to.

I'm thinking about informaing my professor of all this stress, but I fear it might be too late. Anyone have any ideas on how I can approach my teacher with this sort of information without sounding like I'm just using it as an excuse to pass smoothly?
 
I write a Western Civ midterm (Full year Course) tomorrow morning.

Talk to me when dealing with my Psych and Spanish finals. Get me out of my "Write essays and explain stuff" comfort zone and less than excellent results follow.
 
Loki said:
Hah. I have two finals (physics and organic chem-- yay!) on Dec. 23rd. I said the same thing about having one on Christmas lol. :P

Damn, you have no christmas shopping time! Hope you bought em early.

And looks like we have a similar program, I took those courses last semester. What are you in?
 
Failing Exams in Style
======================

50 Fun things to do in a final that does not matter (i.e. you are going
to fail the class completely no matter what you get on the final exam)

1. Bring a pillow. Fall asleep (or pretend to) until the last 15 minutes. Wake up, say "oh geez, better get cracking" and do some gibberish work. Turn it in a few minutes early.

2. Get a copy of the exam, run out screaming "Andre, Andre, I've got the secret documents!!"

3. If it is a math/science exam, answer in essay form. If it is long answer/essay form, answer with numbers and symbols. Be creative. Use the integral symbol.

4. Make paper airplanes out of the exam. Aim them at the instructor's left nostril.

5. Talk the entire way through the exam. Read questions aloud, debate your answers with yourself out loud. If asked to stop, yell out, "I'm SOOO sure you can hear me thinking." Then start talking about what a jerk the instructor is.

6. Bring cheerleaders.

7. Walk in, get the exam, sit down. About five minutes into it, loudly say to the instructor, "I don't understand ANY of this. I've been to every lecture all semester long! What's the deal? And who the hell are you? Where's the regular guy?"

8. Bring a Game Boy (or Game Gear, etc...). Play with the volume at max level.

9. On the answer sheet (book, whatever) find a new, interesting way to refuse to answer every question. For example: I refuse to answer this question on the grounds that it conflicts with my religious beliefs. Be creative.

10. Bring pets.

11. Run into the exam room looking about frantically. Breathe a sigh of relief. Go to the instructor, say "They've found me, I have to leave the country" and run off.

12. Fifteen minutes into the exam, stand up, rip up all the papers into very small pieces, throw them into the air and yell out "Merry Christmas." If you're really daring, ask for another copy of the exam. Say you lost the first one. Repeat this process every fifteen minutes.

13. Do the exam with crayons, paint, or fluorescent markers.

14. Come into the exam wearing slippers, a bathrobe, a towel on your head, and nothing else.

15. Come down with a BAD case of Turet's Syndrome during the exam. Be as vulgar as possible.

16. Do the entire exam in another language. If you don't know one, make one up! For math/science exams, try using Roman numerals.

17. Bring things to throw at the instructor when s/he's not looking. Blame it on the person nearest to you.

18. As soon as the instructor hands you the exam, eat it.

19. Walk into the exam with an entourage. Claim you are going to be taping your next video during the exam. Try to get the instructor to let them stay, be persuasive. Tell the instructor to expect a percentage of the profits if they are allowed to stay.

20. Every five minutes, stand up, collect all your things, move to another seat, continue with the exam.

21. Turn in the exam approximately 30 minutes into it. As you walk out, start commenting on how easy it was.

22. Do the entire exam as if it was multiple choice and true/false. If it is a multiple choice exam, spell out interesting things (DCCAB. BABE. etc..).

23. Bring a black marker. Return the exam with all questions and answers completely blacked out.

24. Get the exam. Twenty minutes into it, throw your papers down violently, scream out "F--k this!" and walk out triumphantly.

25. Arrange a protest before the exam starts (i.e. Threaten the instructor that whether or not everyone's done, they are all leaving after one hour to go drink)

26. Show up completely drunk. (Completely drunk means at some point during the exam, you should start crying for mommy).

27. Every now and then, clap twice rapidly. If the instructor asks why, tell him/her in a very derogatory tone, "the light bulb that goes on above my head when I get an idea is hooked up to a clapper. DUH!"

28. Comment on how sexy the instructor is looking that day.

29. Come to the exam wearing a black cloak. After about 30 minutes, put on a white mask and start yelling "I'm here, the phantom of the opera" until they drag you away.

30. Go to an exam for a class you have no clue about, where you know the class is very small, and the instructor would recognize you if you belonged. Claim that you have been to every lecture. Fight for your right to take the exam.

31. Upon receiving the exam, look it over, while laughing loudly, say "you don't really expect me to waste my time on this drivel? Days of our Lives is on!!!"

32. Bring a water pistol with you. Nuff said.

33. From the moment the exam begins, hum the theme to Jeopardy. Ignore the instructor's requests for you to stop. When they finally get you to leave one way or another, begin whistling the theme to the Bridge on the River Kwai.

34. Start a brawl in the middle of the exam.

35. If the exam is math/science related, make up the longest proofs you could possibly think of. Get pi and imaginary numbers into most equations. If it is a written exam, relate everything to your own life story.

36. Come in wearing a full knight's outfit, complete with sword and shield.

37. Bring a friend to give you a back massage the entire way through the exam. Insist this person is needed, because you have bad circulation.

38. Bring cheat sheets FOR ANOTHER CLASS (make sure this is obvious... like history notes for a calculus exam... otherwise you're not just failing, you're getting kicked out too) and staple them to the exam, with the comment "Please use the attached notes for references as you see fit."

39. When you walk in, complain about the heat. Strip.

40. After you get the exam, call the instructor over, point to any question, ask for the answer. Try to work it out of him/her.

41. One word: Wrestlemania.

42. Bring balloons, blow them up, start throwing them around like they do before concerts start.

43. Try to get people in the room to do the wave.

44. Play frisbee with a friend at the other side of the room.

45. Bring some large, cumbersome, ugly idol. Put it right next to you. Pray to it often. Consider a small sacrifice.

46. Get deliveries of candy, flowers, balloons, telegrams, etc... sent to you every few minutes throughout the exam.

47. During the exam, take apart everything around you. Desks, chairs, anything you can reach.

48. Complete the exam with everything you write being backwards at a 90 degree angle.

49. Bring a musical instrument with you, play various tunes. If you are asked to stop, say "it helps me think." Bring a copy of the Student Handbook with you, challenging the instructor to find the section on musical instruments during finals. Don't forget to use the phrase "Told you so".

50. Answer the exam with the "Top Ten Reasons Why Professor xxxx Sucks"


-- found many years ago whilst perusing FidoNet
 
3pheMeraLmiX said:
I have a final in 30 minutes -- yesterday I didn't care because I figured "if you're prepared, you're prepared" so I didn't sweat it too much. Now I'm nervous, jittering, and on the verge of a breakdown because I do NOT have time to take this class again if I fail. I have to graduate in June and this is one of my last elective courses...

Problem is that it's not that I don't care, but I so stressed and worked to the bone that I don't have the energy to. I wish I had more time to study and all that other good stuff, but honestly, I'm beginning to see a point where I just can't maintain any kind of intellectual stability or interest unless I destract myself -- a LOT, and it's become progressively worse since finals have become so much more closer.

I'd rather play games, or just sit by idly watching the forums refresh constantly; "Hopefully someone will post something interesting" I tell myself, forever delaying the impending pressure of finally getting to work but falling asleep in the process because I'm so exhausted.... I eventually just learn not to because it's so depressing how I don't get the things done that I want to.

I'm thinking about informaing my professor of all this stress, but I fear it might be too late. Anyone have any ideas on how I can approach my teacher with this sort of information without sounding like I'm just using it as an excuse to pass smoothly?


I think that's actually much closer to what I'm experiencing. It's like, if you don't have enough time to relax and recharge yourself, it's insanely difficult to get anything done school-wise.
 
Exaclty, and working a 7-5 job, going to class 6-10 every day, working 9-1 on sat+sun really leaves me no time for anything. I'm so mentally drained that I just don't think I can muster the energy to take this exam without telling myself "what the f-ck are you looking at?". I'm usually fairly good at last-minute studying but even this is overwhleming. My capacity for short-term learning hasn't been functioning because of all the stress distracting me from being able to focus. Sad times my friend -- I don't drink but I feel like having a cold one right about now. *_*
 
I've been studying for my Psych final since Thursday. :lol (this is the most I have ever studied in my entire life).

My Psych final is tomorrow evening from 7:30-9:18.

I've been studying my ass off, so I think I'll probably get an A (hopefully. :D)
 
Yeah, I go straight from school to work and don't get home until about 10:30. Then I eat dinner, shower, and it's 11:15 or so. That gives me 45 minutes until I should go to sleep.

College, especially 300 level classes, aren't designed for people that work full time. I've been able to make my way through school pretty easily with my hectic schedule, but I'm starting to think that this is the point where things start getting ugly.
 
3pheMeraLmiX said:
Problem is that it's not that I don't care, but I so stressed and worked to the bone that I don't have the energy to. I wish I had more time to study and all that other good stuff, but honestly, I'm beginning to see a point where I just can't maintain any kind of intellectual stability or interest unless I destract myself -- a LOT, and it's become progressively worse since finals have become so much more closer.

I'd rather play games, or just sit by idly watching the forums refresh constantly; "Hopefully someone will post something interesting" I tell myself, forever delaying the impending pressure of finally getting to work but falling asleep in the process because I'm so exhausted.... I eventually just learn not to because it's so depressing how I don't get the things done that I want to.

good luck with your final! I feel pretty much the same way, but I'm hoping it's an excuse, not something that will hold me down in the long term.

Loki: tee hee have fun with ochem! Just imagine that your life is going to be turned upside down in a backside attack from a horrible exam. ok ok that was a really lame attempt at a Sn2 joke.

*goes back to drawing ugly chicken embryos*
 
MIMIC said:
I've been studying for my Psych final since Thursday. :lol (this is the most I have ever studied in my entire life).

My Psych final is tomorrow evening from 7:30-9:18.

I've been studying my ass off, so I think I'll probably get an A (hopefully. :D)

You know what's funny is that I actually scheduled out when I should study all last week and this week.
 
God I hate exams. Last year I had Physical Chemistry, and GOD did I hate that class with a passion. I'd do all the questions and never know what I was talking about (at least for Phys Chem A, B was a bit more managable). About 8 hours into studying, I gave up. I convinced myself I couldn't do it and put my books away. I then attempted to fall asleep, though I don't think I did.

Luckily, by about 1am, Space was playing They Live. Nice of God to give me that.

Anyways, for most of the night I was contemplating not even going to the exam. I was planning on how to rearrange my classes to accomedate failing the class. By 6am, I figured I might as well take it. There was a chance I could pass.

I finally sit down, thinking... if I can just answer half, HALF, I might just pass... first question, pretty hard but I think I got it... the second question, oh dear GOD I don't know how to do that.... third question... oh that's not so bad.... fourth... hey I remeber that one.... fifth... sixth.... WHAT THE HELL, HOW DO I REMEMBER THIS!?!?

In the end I got an 80% on the test, plus the curve, gave me a B+ final in the course. I could've gotten an A-, but I really didn't know the last chapter very well on the final cause I gave up before I reached the last chapter.

I've learned one thing from this experience. Study everything... and STOP! Don't overstudy. Last exams, I would study till like 8pm and then stop (unless of course if I had two exams on one day or something)... once I feel like I know everything, stop. It's good enough, dammit.
 
LakeEarth said:
Damn, you have no christmas shopping time! Hope you bought em early.

And looks like we have a similar program, I took those courses last semester. What are you in?

Nah, haven't bought anything early; thankfully, my family is very understanding, as I've been incredibly busy (though you'd never know it by my posting frequency-- I usually study on my desk right next to my PC, so I take constant "breaks" :P). My mom buys gifts for me for my extended family (aunts, cousins etc.) and then I give her the money afterwards; for my grandparents and my immediate family, I told them that they'll get their gifts sometime between Christmas and New Year's Eve-- basically whenever I wake up from the hell that was this semester. :D Seriously, I can't be sitting in a mall for 10 hours doing holiday shopping-- shit, I haven't even been out of my house since September. :lol I'm going stir-crazy. Winter break: viva la alcohol and fraternizing! :D Next semester's courseload is significantly lighter, thankfully, so I'll be able to have some semblance of a social life again. :P


I'm pre-med, so I'm doing my first course of physics w/lab and orgo w/lab this semester. From what I recall, you were a chem or biochem major, no? I'll probably be taking biochem next fall. Are you close to graduating?
 
Ok, time to start thinking positive. Last year I only studied for six hours before my social psych final (and I didn't regularly study through the quarter), and ended up getting the best score in the class.

I'm thinking about just going to sleep for several hours, and just waking up and powering through until my final starts. That panic mode is so neccessary to my motivation that it's somewhat disturbing.
 
MIMIC said:
BTW, what is "conditioning?"

Are you a psych major? Or just taking a psych class?

Conditioning, as in classical, operant, Pavlovian conditioning. The title of the class is actually "learning", but it's all about conditioning.

For the past two tests, I've been like, "Fuck it. If I get half of them right, and then ace the final, I'll get a C in the class".

Now, I wonder if that's actually possible. Worth a try though.
 
I kinda wanna go into my calc I exam with an Abacus. Its wed and I havn't started studying yet. Hopefully I can get the 52 i need to pass the course.
 
MIMIC said:
I've been studying for my Psych final since Thursday. :lol (this is the most I have ever studied in my entire life).

No offense, and just curious, but what sort of psych exam do you need to study one week+ in advance for? :P What course is it? Most difficult psych courses in my school (in terms of exams) were stats and experimental psych (much more open-ended tests-- explaining and applying theories, interpreting experimental data and generating a likely hypothesis etc.). The other ones were pretty much straight memorization of facts/concepts, except for maybe cognitive, which was a bit more in-depth. Are you a psych major? :)


Hammy said:
Loki: tee hee have fun with ochem! Just imagine that your life is going to be turned upside down in a backside attack from a horrible exam. ok ok that was a really lame attempt at a Sn2 joke.

:lol

Don't worry-- if nobody else got it, at least I did. :D Heh, this course "attacks you from the backside" in more ways than one, if you get my drift lol. At least I have a comrade in arms who's been there and lived to tell about it. :)
 
Wendo said:
Are you a psych major? Or just taking a psych class?

Conditioning, as in classical, operant, Pavlovian conditioning. The title of the class is actually "learning", but it's all about conditioning.

For the past two tests, I've been like, "Fuck it. If I get half of them right, and then ace the final, I'll get a C in the class".

Now, I wonder if that's actually possible. Worth a try though.

Ohhhhh....I know what you're talking about now :D (I didn't think about it as a class, though).

BTW, I'm just taking a psych class.
 
Fresh Prince said:
It's people like you that *releases anger* dammit I should of chosen an easier career path.

Honestly though, I think that was kind of a fluke.

Like when you're just randomly guessing questions on an exam, you always think, "There's a chance that I could guess all of the right answers, right?". It seems that one instance, on a small portion of the test, that was that moment.

You can't BS your way through some of this 300 level stuff though.

But I have confidence in my slacker skillset. Honed since the 2nd grade, they have yet to meet their match.

Although, in a way, I kind of wish that I do screw this up so I'll me more inclined to actually pay more attention to school and less attention to filmmaking. Before the last exam I was sitting in the library for hours with my conditioning book in front of me, and could only think of plot elements for a new film I'm writing.
 
Loki said:
No offense, and just curious, but what sort of psych exam do you need to study one week+ in advance for? :P What course is it? Most difficult psych courses in my school (in terms of exams) were stats and experimental psych (much more open-ended tests-- explaining and applying theories, interpreting experimental data and generating a likely hypothesis etc.). The other ones were pretty much straight memorization of facts/concepts, except for maybe cognitive, which was a bit more in-depth. Are you a psych major? :)

I'm just paranoid. :lol

EDIT: I got a B+ on my last exam, so an A on the final would bring my overall grade to an A.
 
Yeah, I'm freaking out for finals too! Mine start this saturday (Mec Engg) and I finish on the 23rd with two tests (calculus and differential equations). After that, I'm hoping on a flight at 7 AM the next day to go to toronto and then north carolina.
 
Out of curiosity, for those of you who are good students that study quite a bit...

Is this something that is an inherent trait? Or were you once a slacker turned straight?

I've tried to fight my "last minute crunch of death" tendency for years and years, and always end up with the exact same result.
 
Wendo said:
Out of curiosity, for those of you who are good students that study quite a bit...

Is this something that is an inherent trait? Or were you once a slacker turned straight?

I've tried to fight my "last minute crunch of death" tendency for years and years, and always end up with the exact same result.

For someone who considers himself a good student who studies quite a bit...essentially I study for a test, usually 1-2 nights before, and then I get a good mark.

For my first University exams I am doing a lot more studying than I did in High School, but it's the same basic concept. Study for how hard you think it will be. Hard Exam, lots of study. Easy exam, night before.
 
"Is this something that is an inherent trait? Or were you once a slacker turned straight?

I've tried to fight my "last minute crunch of death" tendency for years and years, and always end up with the exact same result."


I used to study like crazy a few years ago. Like every minute of free time I'd be working. Oddly enough that was in High School.

As a Junior in Engineering, I'm beginning not to care as much. Not about Engineering, but the bullshit they put us through in college. So much crap they teach us that has absolutely no relevance to the profession. Like in one class we studied in fine detail how a transistor works, up into the alloys and whatnot it's made of. That shit is just wasting my time.

I've worked in an internship and I really enjoy working as an real engineer, and my grades are still strong. But I beginning not to care for the pointless hell college is putting me through.

Oh, and as for the original question :)....I worked like crazy because my father work hours are terrible. He works from like 8am-8pm. I wanted/want an interesting, well-paying job with good hours.
 
University Maths = teh worst
Friggin weird ass questions

Not to mention your general English skills go down th gutter for the first few years.
 
DavidDayton said:
Failing Exams in Style
======================


3. If it is a math/science exam, answer in essay form. If it is long answer/essay form, answer with numbers and symbols. Be creative. Use the integral symbol.


9. On the answer sheet (book, whatever) find a new, interesting way to refuse to answer every question. For example: I refuse to answer this question on the grounds that it conflicts with my religious beliefs. Be creative.


19. Walk into the exam with an entourage.


:lol
 
Wendo said:
Are you a psych major? Or just taking a psych class?

Conditioning, as in classical, operant, Pavlovian conditioning. The title of the class is actually "learning", but it's all about conditioning.

For the past two tests, I've been like, "Fuck it. If I get half of them right, and then ace the final, I'll get a C in the class".

Now, I wonder if that's actually possible. Worth a try though.

In other words you can look at GAF as an experiment in conditioning. You come here and go into the gaming forum and see some rabid fanboys get served - it makes you laugh. You desire this laughter because it fulfills some basic need to mock the stupid so you return. As a result, the idiots of the world control your life :) Its kinda like the same reason people watch Jerry Springer ....
 
Loki said:
I'm pre-med, so I'm doing my first course of physics w/lab and orgo w/lab this semester. From what I recall, you were a chem or biochem major, no? I'll probably be taking biochem next fall. Are you close to graduating?

Yes and I'm finishing my undergrad. I am going into graduate school in research field. You know, cells, protein phosphorylation, brain tumors. Stuff like that.

Good luck with pre-med. Remember, when the time comes, apply everywhere.
 
LakeEarth said:
Yes and I'm finishing my undergrad. I am going into graduate school in research field. You know, cells, protein phosphorylation, brain tumors. Stuff like that.

Good luck with pre-med. Remember, when the time comes, apply everywhere.

Oh, that's cool. Interesting stuff-- best of luck. :) When do you have to apply for grad school by?


As for myself, yeah, I plan on doing that-- I'll have to, given my academic "history". :P All I'm hoping for is an interview or three. :)
 
Hammy said:
good luck with your final! I feel pretty much the same way, but I'm hoping it's an excuse, not something that will hold me down in the long term.

Loki: tee hee have fun with ochem! Just imagine that your life is going to be turned upside down in a backside attack from a horrible exam. ok ok that was a really lame attempt at a Sn2 joke.

*goes back to drawing ugly chicken embryos*


Thanks ^_^


I just got back from my exam and holy shat!

I think I aced that sonnofabitch. It seems like everything I skimmed through in my text was the same thing she decided to cover on the test. Asides from one or two problems that I recognized but didn't bother to read. That's a hell of a load off my chest. One down, two more to go.
 
It's exam week for me too. I just took one exam today. I have three to go. This is my last semester so I'm not studying for any of them. Two of the three classes I only need to get an 80 in to get an A, and I don't really care about the other two. I'll probably get A's anyway. I'm very smart.
 
3 exams, 1 each on Monday, Wednesday, and Friday of next week. I've been studying hardcore for the past 3 weeks or so; and I still have plenty to do; hopefully I'll pass these suckers.

I guess there's a silver lining; next Friday, I'm gonna probably end up getting mega-wasted, and Saturday me and a couple friends are marathoning all 3 extended cuts of LOTR.

But then we start up like 2 weeks later... man I miss undergrad...
 
IAmtheFMan said:
3 exams, 1 each on Monday, Wednesday, and Friday of next week. I've been studying hardcore for the past 3 weeks or so; and I still have plenty to do; hopefully I'll pass these suckers.

I guess there's a silver lining; next Friday, I'm gonna probably end up getting mega-wasted, and Saturday me and a couple friends are marathoning all 3 extended cuts of LOTR.
Oh man, I'm so sorry. You just can't catch a break ;)

This semester I've just been completely out of it. I don't care about any of my classes. One's a requirement, and just generally real easy and unengaging. Two are related requirements for one of my degrees, but the thing is, the degree forks halfway through, and these courses really aren't relevant to the path I'll be taking and they're just uninteresting and useless to me. I find it hard to care. Then there's a screenwriting course which should be interesting, but the prof is a douchebag and I've found it more frustrating than anything. I just can't focus on classes when I have far more benefitial and educational opportunities outside of my college life. It's hard to balance the two properly.

Oh well, next semester should generally be far more engaging and interesting.
 
9. On the answer sheet (book, whatever) find a new, interesting way to refuse to answer every question. For example: I refuse to answer this question on the grounds that it conflicts with my religious beliefs. Be creative.
:lol Wow, I actually did this once in 7th grade, got the idea from a Calvin and Hobbes strip, and it fuckin worked. It was just one question, but the teacher gave me credit. IIRC, the question didn't really have anything to do with religion or anything, I think it was social studies.
 
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