Incest between consenting adults...

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The question is are they going to talk about it if they do? If they're smart and don't want the shame or stigma, the answer is no. So we can't get a real read on it.

Yeah, I'm sure you're right. I just never thought about this being a thing.
 
The question is are they going to talk about it if they do? If they're smart and don't want the shame or stigma, the answer is no. So we can't get a real read on it.

In many countries it's even illegal (the sexual act itself, not only the marriage). Most of the European countries i think, actually.

Not in France, apparently:

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Napoleon abolished incest laws in France and Belgium. Incest had been legal in these two countries. On 27 January 2010, France reinstated laws against incest, which had been thrown out during the French Revolution as a "religious taboo" over 200 years prior. The new law, however, defines incest as rape or sexual abuse on a minor "by a relative or any other person having lawful or de facto authority over the victim". Incest between consenting adults is not prohibited.
 
People are withholding marriage as if its going to stop them from engaging in the activity they believe to be wrong. Except they're already doing it (if they are at all) and they'll continue to do it. And its all kind of moot anyways because current society will not tolerate it so it won't even register on the political radar.
 
if they consent whatever but they both must be adults and they must agree not to have children. They can adopt though, of course. Or a surrogate.



although I certainly wouldn't want to have that conversation with my kid when they're grown up
 
Argument 1 - "Incest is gross"

Argument 2 - "Incest leads to fucked up babies"

Argument 3 - "Incest can involve elements of coercion"
All your counter-arguments are valid as far as I can see it, so I guess you are right.

An interesting result of argument 2 in particular is that everyone should be obliged to ensure that their potential child is born as healthy as possible - which might result in people with genetic disorders not having the moral right of reproducing or everyone having to test their fetuses/potentially abort if there's any major genetic error.

Which I doubt many people would support :p
 
Many of you acknowledge that incest is probably one of the most fucked up activities people can engage in. At the same time many of you who hold that view don't believe it should be illegal.

How do you reconcile that?
 
Many of you acknowledge that incest is probably one of the most fucked up activities people can engage in. At the same time many of you who hold that view don't believe it should be illegal.

How do you reconcile that?

Not everything one finds morally repugnant needs to be illegal.
 
I may find something personally disgusting, but if it's being done among consenting adults, then I don't give a shit. Not my job to tell them how to live their life, if it makes them happy.
 
Many of you acknowledge that incest is probably one of the most fucked up activities people can engage in. At the same time many of you who hold that view don't believe it should be illegal.

How do you reconcile that?

I believe in live and let live. If they're not hurting anyone, then I or anyone else shouldn't hurt them - whether it is by ridiculing them or imprisoning them.
 
Many of you acknowledge that incest is probably one of the most fucked up activities people can engage in. At the same time many of you who hold that view don't believe it should be illegal.

How do you reconcile that?
Some people believe it's not the government's job to throw people in jail for behavior they find distasteful.
 
Let me try another way.

Do you have siblings? If you don't, this question can be posed to anyone reading this topic.

Call one of them and say this. "Hypothetically, if the two of us were attracted to one another, would you have sex with me?"

This is such a crazy thing to do, hahaha.

This is an interesting topic eh. I am in the camp that considers incest as something I strongly abhor, but if its between 2 consenting adults... hmm.
 
i think you'd be gay but not necessarily a narcissist.

But it's your face! Imagine waking up and looking at the mirror and thinking it's your honey and you go in for a kiss but then you realize it's you!

...okay I was joking at first but now I'm wondering if there ever has been a documented case of a person marrying their identical twin.
 
You know how people who are so outspoken against homosexuality are often homosexual themselves? Makes me wonder how many people so against incest were lusting after a sibling in their younger years growing up, or maybe even to this day.
 
You know how people who are so outspoken against homosexuality are often homosexual themselves? Makes me wonder how many people so against incest were lusting after a sibling in their younger years growing up, or maybe even to this day.

But what if you don't have siblings. What then.
 
Too much Game of Thrones for the OP. It's amazing what people think is alright these days, zero boundaries or moral standards.
 
Incest defense force I've everything on GAF now.

It is precisely in questioning basic moral assumptions that we allow ourselves to refine and improve the implicit moral code of society.

If we did not, then we would still be stuck in a society where 'might makes right'.

Even if this basic assumption leads us down dubious paths from time to time, it is better than stagnation, where the factors that created the moral rule in the first place may no longer apply.

Example; moral rule against eating pigs and shellfish.
 
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So, if it's not true consent like you say...it's not a choice. Therefore, it's just like homosexuality.

Just messing at this point

Oh you!

You know how people who are so outspoken against homosexuality are often homosexual themselves? Makes me wonder how many people so against incest were lusting after a sibling in their younger years growing up, or maybe even to this day.

Extrapolating that study to say all homophobes are secretly gay was never the intention of the study nor the natural conclusions it drew. Furthermore, incest isn't anywhere near the same thing as homosexuality which is a sexual orientation while the former is just an attraction to one member of the entire human species. You can't only be attracted to your kin.
 
Many of you acknowledge that incest is probably one of the most fucked up activities people can engage in. At the same time many of you who hold that view don't believe it should be illegal.

How do you reconcile that?

No, its one of the most fucked up things I can engage in, because I don't want to. But if a bro and sis wanna fuck around, let them.
 
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