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[batsnacks]

You. Obviously.

no I'm Betty, which is a great name, for a grandma

 

[Timeaisis]

Betty Bat

 

[Timeaisis]

does anyone want to shitpost in love boat with me

 

[SkyOdin]

Okay but who's mafia

Hmmmm....

OceanicAir or Flame_AC, perhaps.

Both of them have low post counts; just enough to be present, but not visible enough to be the centers of attention. OceanicAir got into some conversations about joke posting, and both pointedly discussed whether or not Kawl is a PR or not and how protective roles could be assigned. It feels like they are keeping their heads down and are sticking to safe, mechanical speculation.

 

[Timeaisis]

Hmmmm....

OceanicAir or Flame_AC, perhaps.

Both of them have low post counts; just enough to be present, but not visible enough to be the centers of attention. OceanicAir got into some conversations about joke posting, and both pointedly discussed whether or not Kawl is a PR or not and how protective roles could be assigned. It feels like they are keeping their heads down and are sticking to safe, mechanical speculation.

I agree. They both seem to be talking, but not saying all that much.

Spoiler

To be fair, I'm doing that too.

 

[Zeusy]

No one was a Green Day concert, you always are

Zeusy claims to be a Green Day concert d1. Ballsy.

My apologies, I was at a Green Day concert* no I am not a Green day concert, hey hey...I see what y'all doing changing the subject 🤔

 

[Lone_Prodigy]

Just going to point out the irony of Bronx going at CCS and AB for flailing.

 

[Bronx-Man]

i mellowed out ever since i started taking my glaucoma medicine

*takes huge bong rip*

 

[Blargonaut]

Usually these mafia games are pretty quiet when I'm asleep, but this one gets the bulk of its activity in that timeframe. I'm stuck playing catch-up in the aftermath of a pile of accusations and theories.

Right now, Blargonaut has turned the dial on his noise to signal ratio to ten, and feels more distracting than helpful. Ironically, that makes me lean town on him, since he was more restrained as a member of the mafia team in pizza mafia. It feels more like wild casting about for leads right now, which is what a townie would be doing day 1.

Our other big leader of conversation is cabot of all people. I appreciate your aggression cabot, but don't think I've forgotten how well you lead town as a member of scum team in anime mafia. Playing aggresively is not alignment indicitive for you at all.

I have seen plenty of frustrated townies act like CCS has when cornered, but it did seem to reach that point surprisingly quickly. We still have rime to go in this day phase and no one has accumulated more than one vote. Still, Day 1 is particularly volatile, so a slight push against a person can lead to a lynch. I'll put CCS on my watch list.

Speaking of...

I can understand being a little suspicious of me, since I have been so quiet and inactive, but I still don't get why I am topping your scum list, batsnacks. Of course, I am in general having trouble 100% parsing what some people have been saying in this thread. This game seems unusually heavy on memes, in-jokes, and obscure references instead of straightforward conversation. It is a lot to process when I haven't had breakfast yet.

Per my MUTUAL READS standing rule, I am now obligated to read you as well SkyOdin, or else. Hence:

SkyOdin
INSUFFICIENT DATA​

business is pleasure

And now cabot and CCS are also obliged to read you, or else

#Opinarchy

 

[Blargonaut]

does anyone want to shitpost in love boat with me

LTTP I already shat

 

[Kyanrute]

Recent experiences with Blarg suggest that he is a wild bunch of magnificent but game-wise meaningless content when scum. Current content level exceeds expected scum levels. Further analysis points out that scum Blarg has hid behind some amount of content before. Judgement: unsure, but could be worse.

 

[Timeaisis]

Recent experiences with Blarg suggest that he is a wild bunch of magnificent but game-wise meaningless content when scum. Current content level exceeds expected scum levels. Further analysis points out that scum Blarg has hid behind some amount of content before. Judgement: unsure, but could be worse.

 

[Bronx-Man]

LTTP I already shat

When have you ever not shat

 

[OceanicAir]

Hmmmm....

OceanicAir or Flame_AC, perhaps.

Both of them have low post counts; just enough to be present, but not visible enough to be the centers of attention. OceanicAir got into some conversations about joke posting, and both pointedly discussed whether or not Kawl is a PR or not and how protective roles could be assigned. It feels like they are keeping their heads down and are sticking to safe, mechanical speculation.

I already said that CCS was being overly defensive. The only other people that have seriously have had heat their way are Ri'orius and AB. And I don't really have strong feelings about them. But there are a ton of other players that haven't even given any meaningful input on anything.

vote: kalor

Hiyo, there! Who do you think is scummy

 

[batsnacks]

Dusk Soldier as town can be so confident in finding mafia that he literally fake claims cop and puts the entire game on the line for his reads

His mafia equity is way above anyone else's rn

 

[Zeusy]

This might be a dumb question, but where does one find "they're reads"

 

[*Splinter]

This might be a dumb question, but where does one find "they're reads"

Your reads are your opinions on other players, usually specifically about their alignment.

For example, my read of AbsolutBro is that he's more interested in arguing about how the game is played than in actually hunting for scum, and that he's willing to defend a player he has no reason to trust (CCS). For these reasons, I think he could be scum.

 

[Dusk Soldier]

Looking back, I still can't see what CCS is even responding to with this post. Nor can I see what AB (and maybe Dusk?) objects to.

My objection is Cabot saying that "fluff" talk, his words not mine, was pointless.

But then immediately turning around and claiming that the players respoinding to my infamous query are scum.

It reads like he's looking for a safe easy excuse to place votes on people, and that we're not getting his real opinions on the game.

His reasoning as presented so far is nonsense and contradictory.

 

[Zeusy]

Your reads are your opinions on other players, usually specifically about their alignment.

For example, my read of AbsolutBro is that he's more interested in arguing about how the game is played than in actually hunting for scum, and that he's willing to defend a player he has no reason to trust (CCS). For these reasons, I think he could be scum.

Oh okay, for a sec I thought everyone was out on the web actually reading something I was missing 😅

 

[Dusk Soldier]

why batsnacks? He hasn't done anything wrong? or are you claiming doctor?

If you are the doc, wouldn't Kawl be the more logical choice?

 

[Flame_AC]

My objection is Cabot saying that "fluff" talk, his words not mine, was pointless.

But then immediately turning around and claiming that the players respoinding to my infamous query are scum.

It reads like he's looking for a safe easy excuse to place votes on people, and that we're not getting his real opinions on the game.

His reasoning as presented so far is nonsense and contradictory.

I mean, on day 1 it's hard to form any real solid opinions, but I do get what you are saying.

I like Splinter's post in reference to AbsolutBro. Unfortunately, I feel like today (Day 1) won't have too much action until ~3 hrs before the deadline when vote trains go everywhere.

 

[Kawl_USC]

Alright guys we've officially discussed which of me or bats should be killed/protected enough. The wifom is out there for both scum and doctor you can leave off it now. Empty ass bullshit non discussion discussion points get no points.

 

[Zippedpinhead]

Busy day at work and getting caught back up.

I'm thinking that Blarg is in rare form this day 1, and I'm interested in finding out how things shake out (town read)

I gotta agree with kawl on discussing who should protect who. All that ever does is get breadcrumbs found.

I'm finding myself agreeing with *splinter on Absolutbro. Day 1 really isn't the spot for logistics and arguing on how to play the game, it's for jokes, meta, gifs, and inevitable vote railroads at the end of the day. He could be scum.

Timeaisis wants to know where I am but he comes and posts a bunch of 1 sentence posts. Are you just trying to reach the post minimum? On one side it looks sketchy, on another it could be mobile posting.

I cant really get behind any vote at the moment,

 

[*Splinter]

My objection is Cabot saying that "fluff" talk, his words not mine, was pointless.

But then immediately turning around and claiming that the players respoinding to my infamous query are scum.

It reads like he's looking for a safe easy excuse to place votes on people, and that we're not getting his real opinions on the game.

His reasoning as presented so far is nonsense and contradictory.

Which posts are you referring to exactly?

 

[cabot]

My objection is Cabot saying that "fluff" talk, his words not mine, was pointless.

But then immediately turning around and claiming that the players respoinding to my infamous query are scum.

It reads like he's looking for a safe easy excuse to place votes on people, and that we're not getting his real opinions on the game.

His reasoning as presented so far is nonsense and contradictory.

you were talking about applying the mechanics of infamous the game to the mechanics of mafia. Such topics involved alignment switchers and you pulled a role out of nowhere thats never been used in this community.

 

[cabot]

CCS,

you were nice enough to share some back story on the infamous games when I asked earlier.

I'll repay that kindness with a tip for dealing with Cabot.

He's going to throw out inane accusations your way. And when you're on the receiving end of the tunnel it can feel a bit stressful.

All you need to do is throw his accusations back in his face and he'll back down.

None of what I said in anime was wrong though?

You bullshitted 3 times mate, I was angry with your play and I was the scum that benefitted from it.

 

[cabot]

Since Dusk likes to say statements without actually providing evidence, I shall do it for him.

Do you not think a godfather is more likely as we have two roles that publically confirm alignment?


Anyway, the mains suspects overnight were Ri, CCS and Dusk:



I feel like this is an awkward interaction joke between scum mates.



Fluff explanation. CCS has posted very little of worth in this game and he has a vote on me which I'm unsure if it's a joke or not.



Time is here because he's just here but he's making everyone aware he's just here. He's also seems upset no one has voted for him. I don't think he's scum, but odd behaviour nonetheless.



Ri joining the fluff mob. Ri in general has felt like he's been coasting, just voting some inactives and a couple of posts i just don't really get anything to read from.



See this would be ringing massive alarm bells normally, but after anime I can't discount this as town dusk muddying up the waters for...reasons.


I think Ri and CCS are pretty suspicious.

All these posts range to pretty ridiculous conclusions based on the fact this is described as a normal game.

 

[cabot]

My objection is Cabot saying that "fluff" talk, his words not mine, was pointless.

But then immediately turning around and claiming that the players respoinding to my infamous query are scum.

discussing mechanics on day 1 when we have the least information is actually pointless, because it's a lot of hot air and it does nothing to seek out scum players.

So yes, you start speculating on mechanics at the start of a mafia game and nothing else, I'm calling that out.

 

[Dusk Soldier]

Which posts are you referring to exactly?

Here he thinks speculation based on mechanics is pointless and that we shouldn't be doing it:

What basis does fluff speculation give you?

Here, he suddenly thinks that *Splinter has made great speculative points about the setup, and that mining through other's speculation is a good way to build reads:

Well lover you seem pretty active, which in my old days of yore tells I would read as scum, but nowadays is nothing, cause I've seen you do it as Town quite a lot in recent games.

I don't lean either way on you just yet, I always struggle to read you early on. You're contributing at least, and I agree on your points regarding NKs/mechanic speculation.


I'm currently trying to decipher who of the people going at these points could be scum.


I think Dusk doing it isn't a scumtell, but it sure is an amazing help to scum to appear to be contributing.

Not even 24hrs to flip-flop stances.

--

*Splinter, why are you so interested in Cabot anyways? He's taking up rougly 75% of your posting content.

 

[batsnacks]

splinter is mafia here way more often than I thought actually. I think I slept on CCS too.

mafia almost never comments on this post in the thread, which got overlooked somehow in the confusion:

here you go CCS,

Spoiler

I'm the cop

splinter and CCS didn't comment, and were both seemingly present when it happened.

As town that comment warrants some kind of "wtf" from CCS cause they were talking, and CCS is there before and after achors claims. CCS comes in after achors claims with "of course acohrs was town, duh."

I'm singling out splinter because he was attentive enough to immediately bust kyan for fishing, but overlooks the blatant claim.

that post by acohrs is a run to mafia chat and talk about it kind of post.

 

[cabot]

Here, he suddenly thinks that *Splinter has made great speculative points about the setup, and that mining through other's speculation is a good way to build reads:



Not even 24hrs to flip-flop stances.

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*Splinter, why are you so interested in Cabot anyways? He's taking up rougly 75% of your posting content.

referring specifically to this sentence:

Lover I'm scared, there's more people discussing who will be NK'd than trying to find who will be doing the NK.

 

[cabot]

mafia almost never comments on this post in the thread, which got overlooked somehow in the confusion:


splinter and CCS didn't comment, and were both seemingly present when it happened.

I didn't really reference it till he did the command, because well.. it's acohrs.

I thought maybe it was a 40% chance of being true, so didn't want to bring attention to it.

 

[batsnacks]

It sucks having to defend AB honestly but I don't think there's any way he's -the- vote right now, like I don't even think he's top 3. And splinter has been voting easy.

 

[cabot]

I struggle to read splinter at the best of times. The closest scum splinter theory I can think of was him using CCS' reaction to encourage me to go hard on him, making me look weak when I lead the lynch on non scum CCS.

It's not impossible but unlikely

 

[Dusk Soldier]

splinter is mafia here way more often than I thought actually. I think I slept on CCS too.

mafia almost never comments on this post in the thread, which got overlooked somehow in the confusion:


splinter and CCS didn't comment, and were both seemingly present when it happened.

As town that comment warrants some kind of "wtf" from CCS cause they were talking, and CCS is there before and after achors claims. CCS comes in after achors claims with "of course acohrs was town, duh."

I'm singling out splinter because he was attentive enough to immediately bust kyan for fishing, but overlooks the blatant claim.

that post by acohrs is a run to mafia chat and talk about it kind of post.

This feels a bit out of left field.

Were you re-reading the game and suddenly noticed this?

I've played with scum *Splinter before, he can be hyper vigilante with calling out townies for scumtells.

To be honest, I know this is the last person you probably want to hear this from, but Splinter is not a bad D1 lynch target.

 

[batsnacks]

CCS looks worse from it

you and AB were also present but were posting throughout the ordeal. with CCS and splinter, they are posting, then acohrs explodes, then CCS and splinter are posting again.

 

[Flame_AC]

This feels a bit out of left field.

To be honest, I know this is the last person you probably want to hear this from, but Splinter is not a bad D1 lynch target.

So far out of left field it's not even in the park, I think Splinter would be an incorrect choice for today. Yes, I suppose I should put forward someone else, but at the very least, I don't think it should be you either Dusk Soldier.

 

[Ri'Orius]

discussing mechanics on day 1 when we have the least information is actually pointless, because it's a lot of hot air and it does nothing to seek out scum players.

So yes, you start speculating on mechanics at the start of a mafia game and nothing else, I'm calling that out.

I respect your opinion. I don't think such speculation is completely worthless, but I agree it's not particularly valuable.

I would just counter that on day one there's not much that can be said of value. I could post some gifs, I could nitpick people's shitposts: both of those seem more useless than fluff talk, IMO.

I've been trying to shake trees with some votes. Hasn't worked. In the past I believe I've tried more elaborate accusations, but those never seemed to work either: I just can't fake the conviction necessary to put pressure on someone.

I'll see if I can find a better means of contributing, but... it's day one.

 

[batsnacks]

splinter is nowhere near the best lynch for today but I had him as town previously and now he's not.

 

[*Splinter]

Here, he suddenly thinks that *Splinter has made great speculative points about the setup, and that mining through other's speculation is a good way to build reads:

That's a huge stretch. I don't think I speculated on setup? Nor did I say that mining speculation is useful. In fact I did the opposite and complained about people speculating.

So err... What are you talking about?

*Splinter, why are you so interested in Cabot anyways? He's taking up rougly 75% of your posting content.

Well it's kind of a whole thing....

Serious answer though: timezones, and his posts make up a significant chunk of the thread. You also must be attributing my entire CCS/AbsolutBro discussion to being "about Cabot", at which point I can hardly be bothered to argue further.

 

[CCS]

splinter is mafia here way more often than I thought actually. I think I slept on CCS too.

mafia almost never comments on this post in the thread, which got overlooked somehow in the confusion:


splinter and CCS didn't comment, and were both seemingly present when it happened.

As town that comment warrants some kind of "wtf" from CCS cause they were up talking, and CCS is there before and after achors claims. CCS comes in after achors claims with "of course acohrs was town, duh."

I'm singling out splinter because he was attentive enough to immediately bust kyan for fishing, but overlooks the blatant claim.

that post by acohrs is a run to mafia chat and talk about it kind of post.

I mean, I know acohrs pretty damn well. I assumed he was just completely bullshitting and threw it out there as part of our bants. I would have reacted if I thought there was any chance he was serious.

I never claimed to be a good judge of character.

 

[CCS]

Also, I looked back at the timeline, and your accusation is bullshit. I didn't post once between acohrs saying that and outing himself as the cop. The reason I didn't was I was at work, so I had time to read the thread intermittently but not post.

 

[*Splinter]

that post by acohrs is a run to mafia chat and talk about it kind of post.

Would you really? I filter out that kind of shitpost without a second thought. I feel like they're true even less often than random chance would allow.

 

[CCS]

Like, you say I was there "before and after he claimed". I was there half an hour before and two and a half hours after. Those are some pretty fucking huge error bars.

 

[Dusk Soldier]

So far out of left field it's not even in the park, I think Splinter would be an incorrect choice for today. Yes, I suppose I should put forward someone else, but at the very least, I don't think it should be you either Dusk Soldier.

what in your opinion makes him a bad choice to lynch today?

 

[Dusk Soldier]

That's a huge stretch. I don't think I speculated on setup? Nor did I say that mining speculation is useful. In fact I did the opposite and complained about people speculating.

So err... What are you talking about?

Those were 2 seperate points. I guess putting them in one sentence like that made it too difficult to parse.

Here, he suddenly thinks that *Splinter has made great speculative points about the setup,

In regards to this, I misread the context of what he was talking about. So it doesn't matter.

and that mining through other's speculation is a good way to build reads:

In regards to this, I was refering to him roving through the posts of people speculating about the setup to form reads. I never said that you were doing this as well. So I'm sorry if that's what it came across as what I said.

My overall point is that it's hypocritcal to say that people shouldn't be speculating about the game mechanics, only to turn around and use that same speculation to form what he wants us to think of as serious reads.

Do you disagree that his actions have been contradictory?

 

[Kawl_USC]

Those were 2 seperate points. I guess putting them in one sentence like that made it too difficult to parse.



In regards to this, I misread the context of what he was talking about. So it doesn't matter.



In regards to this, I was refering to him roving through the posts of people speculating about the setup to form reads. I never said that you were doing this as well. So I'm sorry if that's what it came across as what I said.

My overall point is that it's hypocritcal to say that people shouldn't be speculating about the game mechanics, only to turn around and use that same speculation to form what he wants us to think of as serious reads.

Do you disagree that his actions have been contradictory?

"I think it's pointless to discuss game mechanics day one. Ergo I think people pushing I heavily are misguided, deadweight town or scum."

Zero hypocrisy there. Try again.

 

[batsnacks]

Would you really? I filter out that kind of shitpost without a second thought. I feel like they're true even less often than random chance would allow.

Knowing something is true less often than random is good info, that's probably how I would have handled it as scum actually. Wouldn't comment in the thread about it though.

idk as lame as "suspicious absence" is I think it's a good read as far as reads in this game are going. Hard game.

 

[batsnacks]

So far out of left field it's not even in the park, I think Splinter would be an incorrect choice for today. Yes, I suppose I should put forward someone else, but at the very least, I don't think it should be you either Dusk Soldier.

splinter is always town if this guy is mafia lol

 

[Kawl_USC]

Knowing something is true less often than random is good info, that's probably how I would have handled it as scum actually. Wouldn't comment in the thread about it though.

idk as lame as "suspicious absence" is I think it's a good read as far as reads in this game are going. Hard game.

For the record coming from acohrs I would have straight up ignored it most likely as well. Context of the poster matters. I don't read splinter or ccs' lack of comment one way or another