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[neojubei]

Listening to samples from the soundtrack on my iPhone. Pretty damn good.

 

[syllogism]

EG review was pretty good and their 7 is a 8 on the usual terrible scale every other site uses.

e: Click is hilarious, keep it up

 

[pseudocaesar]

Is the GT review spoilerish? After KZ2...ergh.

 

[deepbrown]

I really like gliding from one power line to another - it's just so seemless and empowering. Why would you want to drive!?

 

[deepbrown]

Is the GT review spoilerish? After KZ2...ergh.

it shows the game's cool beginning gameplay bit (just briefly) - but otherwise, not really.

 

[wRATH2x]

Just got the game like 5 hours ago and goddamn its awesome! Loving it so far. I can't believe how good this game turned out to be, I really wanna see what they can do with another Sly Cooper.

 

[-Winnie-]

Is the GT review spoilerish? After KZ2...ergh.

Shows a fair amount of the unrevealed powers. Besides that, not too much else is spoiled.

 

[Jtrizzy]

EG review was pretty good and their 7 is a 8 on the usual terrible scale every other site uses.

e: Click is hilarious, keep it up

I promise this is the last I'll say on this, but maybe they should get on the scale everyone else is using.

Let's say you have been working on your dissertation for your PhD or your masters dissertation for 3-4 years (basically the amount of time this game took). In the end you have a panel review it and each panel member gives it an A or B, but one person gives it a C because they are grading on a different scale, even though they liked it. That's bullshit, and it could have a negative effect on you.

If they really want to be different and discerning, EG should drop the scoring system altogether. At the very least they should (if they aren't already) use the decimal system.

 

[glaurung]

Does the game feature unlockable items, costumes and such?

 

[Jtrizzy]

It has blast shards, which once you collect a certain amount gives you more electricity to use. It also seems to have recordings spread around the city that help tell the story, sounds like Bioshock to me.

Obviously the main thing you unlock are more powers as you get XP during the game.

 

[syllogism]

I promise this is the last I'll say on this, but maybe they should get on the scale everyone else is using.

Let's say you have been working on your dissertation for your PhD or your masters dissertation for 3-4 years (basically the amount of time this game took). In the end you have a panel review it and each panel member gives it an A or B, but one person gives it a C because they are grading on a different scale, even though they liked it. That's bullshit, and it could have a negative effect on you.

If they really want to be different and discerning, EG should drop the scoring system altogether. At the very least they should (if they aren't already) use the decimal system.

That's a terrible analogy. Eurogamer readers know the scale they (generally, obviously some of their reviewers are better than others) use and that's all that matters, not some possible "negative effect" it could have on the sales.

 

[deepbrown]

I promise this is the last I'll say on this, but maybe they should get on the scale everyone else is using.

Let's say you have been working on your dissertation for your PhD or your masters dissertation for 3-4 years (basically the amount of time this game took). In the end you have a panel review it and each panel member gives it an A or B, but one person gives it a C because they are grading on a different scale, even though they liked it. That's bullshit, and it could have a negative effect on you.

If they really want to be different and discerning, EG should drop the scoring system altogether. At the very least they should (if they aren't already) use the decimal system.

They gave it a 7 because that reviewer thought it was a 7. It's all subjective anyway.

 

[Deleted member 30609]

I promise this is the last I'll say on this, but maybe they should get on the scale everyone else is using.

Let's say you have been working on your dissertation for your PhD or your masters dissertation for 3-4 years (basically the amount of time this game took). In the end you have a panel review it and each panel member gives it an A or B, but one person gives it a C because they are grading on a different scale, even though they liked it. That's bullshit, and it could have a negative effect on you.

If they really want to be different and discerning, EG should drop the scoring system altogether. At the very least they should (if they aren't already) use the decimal system.

but the review scale only needs to make sense relative to itself. Eurogamer isn't doing the wrong thing, Metacritic is.

 

[neojubei]

Does the game feature unlockable items, costumes and such?

Anyone want to answer this?

 

[Jtrizzy]

I guess I just don't see the difference between one ten point scale and another. Did they explicitly come out and say that we are using the full scale unlike the rest of the world?

If this were on 1up's site, it would be getting C- !!

Eurogamer is not the fucking Siskel and Ebert of game reviews (who did two thumbs up instead of the standard 5 star system) , and shouldn't be using a different 10 point scale. If they were to have two guys review every game and be considered the pinnacle of game reviews, I might understand.


They should drop scoring altogether, or get with the rest of the world, where a 7/10 is barely above average.

 

[gantz85]

but the review scale only needs to make sense relative to itself. Eurogamer isn't doing the wrong thing, Metacritic is.

It's how people are treating these institutions.

People think Eurogamer have higher standards because they dole out higher scores less frequently and because some people think they write well.

Those have nothing to do with the integrity of the institution.

 

[Felix Lighter]

What was the last game Sony released a game early? Uncharted?

 

[BatmanX]

It's how people are treating these institutions.

People think Eurogamer have higher standards because they dole out higher scores less frequently and because some people think they write well.

Those have nothing to do with the integrity of the institution.

Naah, they gave a LOT of 10's and 9's even more than anybody else, tbh

 

[vag 2.0]

I know games 'journalism' is utterly retarded and all, but why would anyone make a point of conforming to the "If it's well known give it 9, otherwise give it 7" rating scale?

Not saying eurogamer is any good, either.

They should drop scoring altogether, or get with the rest of the world, where a 7/10 is barely above average.

this is a terrible world-view

 

[Felix Lighter]

Why fixate on a single review? It's one of many and honestly most people in this thread aren't still on the fence about the game. It's not going to get all 9s and 10s.

 

[h3ro]

What was the last game Sony released a game early? Uncharted?

Last one I remember was Ratchet & Clank Future.

 

[Jtrizzy]

I know games 'journalism' is utterly retarded and all, but why would anyone make a point of conforming to the "If it's well known give it 9, otherwise give it 7" rating scale?

Not saying eurogamer is any good, either.



this is a terrible world-view

I don't know maybe it's just the American educational system, which operates on a ten point scale. I don't know how grades work in other countries, but if you get a 7/10 on a test, it is considered slightly above average and you are unlikely to get into a University.

Any game that gets multiple 7's is pretty much a bad game, and anything below a 7 means the game is basically a failure. That is why you see games scored on 7-10 scale on most sites, and most of the current games that take 3-4 years to develop and 20 something million to develop are deserving of a 8.

6's and 7's should be for games that are rentals, crappy ports, or bad sports title 2009.

Why fixate on a single review? It's one of many and honestly most people in this thread aren't still on the fence about the game. It's not going to get all 9s and 10s.

For me, I'm not concerned with the review, as I usually disagree with EG. I'm just fascinated by the idea of varying ten point scales and how a 7 is "good" as opposed to barely above average.

Maybe I'm not thinking straight, but in what other field or sport is a 7/10 good? Certainly not in gymnastics, the dunk contest, or anything I can think of.

 

[Ricker]

Damn,just remembered the demo comes out today...time to jump back on the wagon,one of my most anticipated PS3 game,especially since it's "only for" for now

 

[fizzelopeguss]

Well, that GT review has got me interested, normally i hate sandbox games. (loved crackdown though)

 

[Shurs]

Damn,just remembered the demo comes out today...time to jump back on the wagon,one of my most anticipated PS3 game,especially since it's "only for" for now

You're seriously going to pretend that this could get ported to another system?

 

[poweld]

You're seriously going to pretend that this could get ported to another system?

Why couldn't it?

 

[Shurs]

Why couldn't it?

Sony owns the IP.

 

[Cruzader]

Damn,just remembered the demo comes out today...time to jump back on the wagon,one of my most anticipated PS3 game,especially since it's "only for" for now

:lol :lol :lol

Sly 4 360 exclusive confirmed.

 

[poweld]

Sony owns the IP.

Point taken. Sorry, I haven't paid enough attention to the details of this release, didn't know Sony owned the IP.

I'm pretty jazzed about this coming out though, should be a great summertime game

 

[gantz85]

Why couldn't it?

Sony is funding Infamous. It's a third-party developer but it's a first-party IP.

 

[Dazzyman]

Regarding Eurogamer go by what the blokes reviewed before it and the scores. Ie pinch of salt in his case :lol

 

[Kazuma Kiryu]

these last posts were just hilarious.
yap, infamous coming to the 360.
only on ps3 sticker:lol

 

[Ponn]

these last posts were just hilarious.
yap, infamous coming to the 360.
only on ps3 sticker:lol

It's a trade deal. 360 gets a port of Infamous and PS3 gets Mass Effect 2. MEGATON-AGE!

 

[Jtrizzy]

Can we have Alan Wake instead? :lol

 

[gantz85]

It's a trade deal. 360 gets a port of Infamous and PS3 gets Mass Effect 2. MEGATON-AGE!

One is a first party IP.

The other is a third party IP with exclusivity (be it timed or permanent) probably bought with moniehats.


Big difference.

 

[gantz85]

Can we have Alan Wake instead? :lol

We'd have to use TRICO to trade.

Because unlike TRICO, inFamous has actual gameplay footage out already.

 

[-viper-]

Can we have Alan Wake instead? :lol

How about Gears Of War? Epic owns the IP.

 

[neojubei]

Why couldn't it?

EDIT: BEATEN

 

[Felix Lighter]

Hopefully this thread improves after the game launches.

 

[Phloxy]

NCSX has the game, if you order now you'll have it by Saturday.

 

[Jtrizzy]

Plus ME2 would be of little trade value. (IIRC EA bought Bioware, so it will obviously be multiplat eventually, right?)

Let's put this deal on hold till after e3 when we've actually seen Alan Wake

 

[StarscreamLSU]

Does the game feature unlockable items, costumes and such?

Not really, unless you count shard collection, which unlocks more battery cores (additional energy).

 

[Mesijs]

It's a trade deal. 360 gets a port of Infamous and PS3 gets Mass Effect 2. MEGATON-AGE!

More like: ME2 goes to PS3. Period. Oh, and Lost and Damned, just like Fallout 3 DLC and improved Ninja Gaiden 2.

 

[Raw64life]

This will be only the second game I blind buy this gen (first was Zack & Wiki and I ended up not liking it) so I hope I don't get burned on it. All I know is it's an action game where you have lightning powers and it's made by the guys who made Rocket: Robot on Wheels (I've never played a Sly Cooper game and honestly don't have any desire to).

 

[h3ro]

This will be only the second game I blind buy this gen (first was Zack & Wiki and I ended up not liking it) so I hope I don't get burned on it. All I know is it's an action game where you have lightning powers and it's made by the guys who made Rocket: Robot on Wheels (I've never played a Sly Cooper game and honestly don't have any desire to).

Why blind buy when you can play the demo that's going up later on today on PSN?

 

[Raw64life]

Because I didn't know that. Guess I won't be blind buying after all.

 

[polyh3dron]

Damn,just remembered the demo comes out today...time to jump back on the wagon,one of my most anticipated PS3 game,especially since it's "only for" for now

hay guyz halo 4 will be ps3 exclusive

 

[popsicle_sundays]

hay guyz halo 4 will be ps3 exclusive

:lol



Bumping this because: ZOMG 5 DAIZ LAFT GEIZ!!

 

[Fizzle]

Everytime I read the Eurogamer, I get the sense that they've only given it a 7/10 cause they really enjoyed the game but hate the flaws in the game so much giving it a 7 would have motivated the team to iron them specific flaws completely for the next iteration of Infamous.

An 8/10 would have just meant they wouldn't take thier words as seriously. I think this is what Edge tried to with Killzone 2. It's like an exam, don't expect the examiner to be so nice.

 

[DeadGzuz]

Everytime I read the Eurogamer, I get the sense that they've only given it a 7/10 cause they really enjoyed the game but hate the flaws in the game so much giving it a 7 would have motivated the team to iron them specific flaws completely for the next iteration of Infamous.

An 8/10 would have just meant they wouldn't take thier words as seriously. I think this is what Edge tried to with Killzone 2. It's like an exam, don't expect the examiner to be so nice.

Too bad your logic does not follow with most of the other 9s and 10s that they give, unless you think those games have nothing to improve. The reviewers job is to make a recommendation, not give a message to developers. A 7/10 says "it's ok" when we know by now (demo + reviews) the game is among the best this gen.