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處理器 - Intel Core Ultra 9 285K vs 14900K力拼低溫高效,但看GIGABYTE Z890 AORUS MASTER CKD頻率大突破

前言： 代號 Arrow Lake-S之 Intel Core Ultra 200S系列處理器以及 Z890主機板已於當下效能解禁，本文為 Intel Core Ultra 9 285K在 GIGABYTE Z890 AORUS MASTER上所做的效能測試，在測試平台中除了使用 ROG RYUJIN III 360 ARGB EXTREME一體式 CPU水冷散熱器，以及 RG-07散熱膏，來負責對 Core Ultra 5 245K進行散熱之外，還使用了 Kingston FURY Renegade DDR5 CKD DDR5 8800 24GX2 (XMP DDR5 8800)...

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And it is a bomba, what happened Intel?

Games and application struggled against 14900K

DDR5-9200 still have terrible 94ns latency in aida64

 

[Silver Wattle]

The title is confusing with "core ultra 9 7 5"
It should be 9/7/5.

And the reviews are looking even worse than Intel led us to believe.

 

[The Skull]

What did Leonidas say? "An honest CPU company"

 

[winjer]

I'm still waiting for reviews from professional review sites, but this does not bode well so far.

 

[peish]

I'm still waiting for reviews from professional review sites, but this does not bode well so far.

How dare you!
Many China reviewers are more technical and touched more on the nooks and crannies.

 

[winjer]

How dare you!
Many China reviewers are more technical and touched more on the nooks and crannies.

I don't put much trust in Winnie the Poo

 

[Bernoulli]

What did Leonidas say? "An honest CPU company"

User error

 

[DenchDeckard]

Woof. Intel just cant catch a break. Its sad to see.

 

[winjer]

Woof. Intel just cant catch a break. Its sad to see.

Though most of these problems of late, were of their own doing.

 

[MarV0]

When does the review embargo lift?

 

[Xyphie]

When does the review embargo lift?

Should be in either ~90 minutes or ~2h30m.

 

[Unknown Soldier]

Those results from China are....not great

9800X3D is the one to watch for here, that's coming next month

 

[DenchDeckard]

Though most of these problems of late, were of their own doing.

I agree, it's just sad to see. We need strong healthy competition and Intel dropping the ball this badly is not good.

 

[winjer]

Intel Core Ultra 9 285K Review

Finally! Intel's new Arrow Lake architecture is launched. The new CPUs are full of design changes, like removal of Hyper-Threading, new Lion Cove P-Cores, an improved Thread Director and more. In our review we got surprising results that were both impressive and disappointing.

www.techpowerup.com

Intel Core Ultra 9 285K Review

Intel is ready to unveil its latest Core Ultra desktop CPU series. With a tile-based design, Arrow Lake marks a major architectural shift, aiming for improved performance...

www.techspot.com

 

[SolidQ]

 

[winjer]

More reviews

 

[Bojji]

5800X3D is still awesome!

 

[SolidQ]

Outside city 285 tie to 14900, but when entering to city rip 285

1% below 30

 

[Bojji]

I want to laugh at this but bad Intel launch will only make AMD more lazy (like Intel before Zen) after Zen 5.

 

[Magic Carpet]

My 13700 hanging in there, hasn't glitched out yet.

 

[FalconPunch]

Meme lake

 

[winjer]

What a waste of sand....

 

[Kenpachii]

Yea not looking good, time to wait for the 9800x3d

 

[PandaOk]

Requiem by @cascadingnoises862 | Suno

shanty song. Listen and make your own with Suno.

suno.com

Credit for the amazing Lyrics goes to Chiggs
https://www.neogaf.com/threads/inte...an-i9-14900k-in-gaming.1675990/post-269669626

With S Schmendrick providing the song
https://www.neogaf.com/threads/inte...an-i9-14900k-in-gaming.1675990/post-269672743

 

[Diseased Yak]

Yikes!

*hugs 7800x3d*

 

[Superbean]

Wow some brutal reviews. Absolutely terrible showing from Intel. Amd x3D is definitely going to hold the performance crown I guess lol

 

[winjer]

There is something really wrong with these CPUs.
They are using a process node that is much more advanced than Zen5 and despite this, it uses double the power of a 7800X3D. While gaming.
It's like going back in time, to the era of the Athlon 64 vs Pentium 4.

 

[SolidQ]

What a waste of sand....

or Error Lake

 

[Von Hugh]

Your hot take on the shitty performance, Leonidas ?

 

[SolidQ]

Your hot take on the shitty performance, Leonidas ?

He fell in the middle of the lake and is trying to get out of there

 

[Bojji]

Reviewers to Intel:

 

[SolidQ]

Something wrong with Cinebench 2024. Because in other Cinebench 285 didn't win
That also ST perfomance

 

[Gubaldo]

Someone needs to give intel a Conroe moment.

 

[Superbean]

You know, I used to really defend hub against the accusation of being biased against AMD. But in his AMD is Zen 5 reviews he shat all over them for efficiency improvements for the same performance or 5% gains and he seems to almost be praising Intel for efficiency improvements and performance loss. It's kind of obvious that he just seems to have a dislike of AMD

 

[Venom Snake]

 

[Celcius]

oof
9800X3D it is

 

[bbeach123]

Atleast its cheap right ? Right ?

 

[SolidQ]

For stock config 285K in TechPowerUp review:

Jetstream: Fail
Speedometer: Fail
GPT2 AI: Decisive win
Stable Diffusion: Decisive win
Topaz Photo AI: Fail
NLP AI: Decisive win
Image classification: Decisive win but massively outshined by 265K
RPCS3: Respectable score slightly behind 7950X and 14900K
Ryujinx: Fail
CB R24 and Blender: Decisive win
Corona: Respectable score slightly behind 9950X
Keyshot 2024: Respectable score and four seconds slower than 7950X
V-Ray: Beats 7950X but can't touch 9950X
UE5 Build Cook Release: Respectable score
Git: Fail
Visual Studio: Respectable score four seconds slower than 9950X
AV1 encoding: Decisive win
HEVC encoding: Just behind 14900K
H.264: Respectable score
MP3 encoding: Fail
MS Office: Fail
Adobe Premiere: Respectable score
Adobe After Effects: Decisive win
3DF Zephyr: Decisive win
COMSOL: Decisive win
NAMD: Decisive win
Genome analysis: Decisive win but outshined by 265K
Antivirus: Fail
Altium Designer: Almost a fail as it can't catch 14900K but otherwise doesn't look that bad compared to 9950X
Tesseract OCR: Respectable score less than 3 seconds slower than 9950X
VirtualBox: Respectable score
MySQL: Fail as it's behind 14900K quite a bit and can't catch 9950X
MongoDB 6: Decisive win
OpenJDK: Win
ASP.NET: Tie with 14900K
WinRAR: Respectable score
7-zip: Fail
AIDA64 AES: Fail
AIDA64 SHA3: Fail
Games fail everywhere except Spiderman RT: Win
Min FPS fail everywhere except Spiderman RT and Last of US: Good
(c) AT

 

[delishcaek]

The fact that intel didn't even feel the need to delay this with all the instability issues reviewers and board manufacturers seemingly had baffles me. I mean there must've been someone out there telling intel reps that shit isn't good right now.

 

[winjer]

In power efficiency, it did manage to improve over Raptor Lake, but it's still lagging behind AMD. By a big margin.

 

[SolidQ]

Google Chrome

 

[b0uncyfr0]

Its a dud.

x3d is the king for now.

 

[GHG]

Everyone's forgetting the most important thing - what's the idle power consumption like?

 

[Celcius]

I'm just going to post the image here for completeness (credit to Thebonehead )

Business - Hardware - Intel admits Core Ultra 9 285K will be slower than i9-14900K in gaming

Wtf, these have to be fake right? I knew reveal numbers were heavily goosed but…

www.neogaf.com

 

[hinch7]

Even losing to 12th gen i5. Intel...

 

[JohnnyFootball]

In terms of baseball, this is at best a walk for Intel, meaning they got on base or could be a strikeout.

AMD did everything in their power to make this a successful launch for Intel…and they still blew it.

 

[ap_puff]

You know, I used to really defend hub against the accusation of being biased against AMD. But in his AMD is Zen 5 reviews he shat all over them for efficiency improvements for the same performance or 5% gains and he seems to almost be praising Intel for efficiency improvements and performance loss. It's kind of obvious that he just seems to have a dislike of AMD

I think their bias is actually to be much tougher on the company that's in the lead. So they used to try to extol the virtues of AMD when they were behind in both CPU and GPU, but now that they're actually beating intel up they want to try to give intel a fighting chance. Even though their opinions are whatever, the data is not though. This is a worse showing for chiplet architecture than rdna3 was.

 

[Ironbunny]

Only thing good about this release is the msi ace and unify x mobo. Man I'd like one of those.

 

[GHG]

 

[SolidQ]

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