Celcius
°Temp. member
Ouch, that's almost a $200 difference between the Core 7 and Core 9.
For an extra 4 e-cores and 200mhz on the boost?
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Intel admits Core Ultra 9 285K will be slower than i9-14900K in gaming
For an extra 4 e-cores and 200mhz on the boost?
Thebonehead
Gold Member
Leonidas hasn't even posted in this thread and y'all are out here writing songs about him and everything
He needs to show his face to get cooked and eat crow.... Crow that's served up in a pot of brine.
nowhat
Member
Oh come on. We shouldn't pile on the guy. I thought we as a community were better.
So
Leonidas
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JohnnyFootball
GerAlt-Right. Ciriously.
I’m legit jealous of Leonidas. Why can’t I be this popular?
ResilientBanana
Member
So what happens to Leonidas when intel pops back into the lead? Will he be praised?
marquimvfs
Member
Well, if you talk as much shit, is only a matter of time
Von Hugh
Member
I don't think it really matters if Intel was in the lead. Guy has proven already he's a clown no matter what.
Closer
Member
It's not about who's the leader, It's about releasing a processor that trade blows with a 2 years old processor (1 year, in this case).
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Chiggs
Gold Member
You been following the news about Intel there, chief?
JohnnyFootball
GerAlt-Right. Ciriously.
GHG
Member
Intel Core Ultra 200K pricing leaked: 285K at $589, 265K priced at $394, and 245K for $309 - VideoCardz.com
Core Ultra 200K leaks, just hours before the announcement The new series is set to be unveiled tomorrow. Pricing has been leaked by Raichu, who is known for accurate Intel leaks. This is the pricing for the Core Ultra 200 series, also called Arrow Lake-S. There’s no big surprise here, although...
videocardz.com
Silver Wattle
Gold Member
-3%lakeIntel Core Ultra 200K pricing leaked: 285K at $589, 265K priced at $394, and 245K for $309 - VideoCardz.com
Core Ultra 200K leaks, just hours before the announcement The new series is set to be unveiled tomorrow. Pricing has been leaked by Raichu, who is known for accurate Intel leaks. This is the pricing for the Core Ultra 200 series, also called Arrow Lake-S. There’s no big surprise here, although...
mclaren777
Member
Depending on how they run Adobe software, I'll buy either a 265K or 265KF next year.
rnlval
Member
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winjer
Gold Member
Here are the slides in English.
videocardz.com
Intel Core Ultra 200S Arrow Lake-S desktop processors announced: Lion Cove, Skymont, Xe-LPG, NPU and LGA-1851 - VideoCardz.com
Arrow Lake-S is here, up to 24 cores, 125W and new socket Intel officially introduces the new series for desktop PCs. The Core Ultra 200 series is an update for desktop systems, focusing on power efficiency. It features newer Performance and Efficient core architectures, new graphics, and...
videocardz.com
Von Hugh
Member
Here are the slides in English.
Intel Core Ultra 200S Arrow Lake-S desktop processors announced: Lion Cove, Skymont, Xe-LPG, NPU and LGA-1851 - VideoCardz.com
Arrow Lake-S is here, up to 24 cores, 125W and new socket Intel officially introduces the new series for desktop PCs. The Core Ultra 200 series is an update for desktop systems, focusing on power efficiency. It features newer Performance and Efficient core architectures, new graphics, and...
But what about idle power consumption? I heard that's what truly matters.
ap_puff
Banned
Man... I feel bad for Gordon, he looks so shriveled up now. Hope he's able to beat the cancer.
Well why even upgrade?
Even from my 5800x3d everything feels more like a side grade. I guess I upgrade next with the next gen or am6
Insane Metal
Member
How the turntables. Intel now focusing on efficiency on their slides (which seems to still be behind the competition by the way)Here are the slides in English.
Intel Core Ultra 200S Arrow Lake-S desktop processors announced: Lion Cove, Skymont, Xe-LPG, NPU and LGA-1851 - VideoCardz.com
Arrow Lake-S is here, up to 24 cores, 125W and new socket Intel officially introduces the new series for desktop PCs. The Core Ultra 200 series is an update for desktop systems, focusing on power efficiency. It features newer Performance and Efficient core architectures, new graphics, and...
winjer
Gold Member
Intel Announcement Preview: Intel Core Ultra 200 Arrow Lake CPUs
Intel’s latest release, the Core Ultra 200 series, codenamed Arrow Lake, marks a significant leap in CPU technology. With a robust configuration of 24 cores, including 8 high-performance Lion Cove P-cores and 16 energy-efficient Skymont E-cores, these processors are designed to handle the most...
www.guru3d.com
Intel Core Ultra Arrow Lake Preview
Intel has just lifted the curtain on its highly anticipated Arrow Lake microarchitecture, we also learned about the processor models that are launching this month. In our preview we explain technical details, such as why Hyper-Threading was removed and how Foveros fuses multiple dies into a...
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ShaiKhulud1989
Gold Member
So it’s not even good at heating the room now?
To quote myself from Aug 9th, 2024 in the Intel Core Ultra Desktop CPU (Arrow Lake) October 2024 launch even more likely post.
ResilientBanana
Member
Seems like some games will need to get patched / optimized. New architecture is new.Here are the slides in English.
Intel Core Ultra 200S Arrow Lake-S desktop processors announced: Lion Cove, Skymont, Xe-LPG, NPU and LGA-1851 - VideoCardz.com
Arrow Lake-S is here, up to 24 cores, 125W and new socket Intel officially introduces the new series for desktop PCs. The Core Ultra 200 series is an update for desktop systems, focusing on power efficiency. It features newer Performance and Efficient core architectures, new graphics, and...
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Von Hugh
Member
I'm sure a particular someone will be jumping to criticise
winjer
Gold Member
It gets worse. For their 31 game average, they ran the 285K with 6400Mbps and the 14900K with 5600Mbps.
Like I said so many times to Leonidas, both Intel and AMD love to massage their numbers. And he constantly denied Intel did such a thing.
Leonidas
AMD's Dogma: ARyzen (No Intel inside)
Disappointed that there was no gaming performance improvement, but gaming is only one aspect when it comes to CPU.
I still hold out hope that faster memory speeds can improve things. With Arrow Lake Sweet Spot memory being DDR5 8000.
I am only going to look at the positives, since some of you people are being negative.
+faster in gaming than my current rig (Zen5 lost to my overclocked 13600K)
+fastest DDR5 memory support (DDR5 8000 sweet spot is very enticing to me, and pricing of DDR5 8000 ain't bad)
+much improved efficiency
Also glad to see that Intel didn't lie and insult my intelligence, unlike AMD, who made lied in their first party slides making fools believe they'd beat the 14900K by a decent margin, where Intel is only claiming parity.
Good to see an honest CPU company.
Arrow Lake = 6400
Raptor Lake = 5600
Zen 5 = 5600
Different CPUs have different capabilities. If Intel were to pull an AMD, they would have overclocked the RAM towards the sweet spot to make Arrow Lake look better (Zen 5 slides used overclocked RAM, which favored AMD numbers, as you would expect from an AMD first party slide).
I still hold out hope that faster memory speeds can improve things. With Arrow Lake Sweet Spot memory being DDR5 8000.
I am only going to look at the positives, since some of you people are being negative.
+faster in gaming than my current rig (Zen5 lost to my overclocked 13600K)
+fastest DDR5 memory support (DDR5 8000 sweet spot is very enticing to me, and pricing of DDR5 8000 ain't bad)
+much improved efficiency
Also glad to see that Intel didn't lie and insult my intelligence, unlike AMD, who made lied in their first party slides making fools believe they'd beat the 14900K by a decent margin, where Intel is only claiming parity.
Good to see an honest CPU company.
Intel ran JEDEC speeds, as they always do.
Arrow Lake = 6400
Raptor Lake = 5600
Zen 5 = 5600
Different CPUs have different capabilities. If Intel were to pull an AMD, they would have overclocked the RAM towards the sweet spot to make Arrow Lake look better (Zen 5 slides used overclocked RAM, which favored AMD numbers, as you would expect from an AMD first party slide).
winjer
Gold Member
Allow me to teach you a new thing today.
The official max memory speeds that Intel publishes are always 1dpc. For example, the 14900K, has max speed of 5600 Mbps for 1 Dimm per Channel. But a speed of 5200 Mbps for 2 dimms per channel.
So for using dual channel memory, the official value is 5200 Mbps. Not 5600 Mbps.
Then again, no one cares about these official numbers and will just buy and run the memory they want to. Often, above the official specs.
Leonidas
AMD's Dogma: ARyzen (No Intel inside)
You seem very ignorant when it comes to this subject.... you taught me nothing, yet again.
winjer
Gold Member
That is because you choose to ignore the facts. Read Intel's specs sheets and you can confirm it's true.
Intel® Core™ Processors (14th Gen) - Quick Reference Guide (PDF)
Use this quick reference guide for an overview of Intel® Core™ Processors (14th Gen), including what's new and the spec table.
www.intel.com
BTW, did you notice this slide?
We were right in saying performance in games, for the 285K would change by 5%. We just missed the direction.
Leonidas
AMD's Dogma: ARyzen (No Intel inside)
Your ignorance regarding DDR5 is still showing.That is because you choose to ignore the facts. Read Intel's specs sheets and you can confirm it's true.
Intel® Core™ Processors (14th Gen) - Quick Reference Guide (PDF)
Use this quick reference guide for an overview of Intel® Core™ Processors (14th Gen), including what's new and the spec table.
BTW, did you notice this slide?
We were right in saying performance in games, for the 285K would change by 5%. We just missed the direction.
Also, your slide is for 265K, which Intel claims is ~5% slower than 285K...
winjer
Gold Member
It's Intel's power slide. Not mine.
And it's Intel's DDR5 spec sheet. Which you say it's false.
Damn, you are an awful liar.
Leonidas
AMD's Dogma: ARyzen (No Intel inside)
At least I can correctly read slides and am not going around posting false and misleading info... something you are quite good at...Damn, you are an awful liar.
winjer
Gold Member
We really missed you and all your shenanigans.
SlimySnake
Flashless at the Golden Globes
The power consumption and lower temps are most welcome. Price is still too high. Especially when you will likely need a new motherboard in order to upgrade.
Im still rocking a B560 LGA 1200 mobo. Getting a new mobo with wifi and will set me back another $600. might as well just invest that towards a better GPU.
Im still rocking a B560 LGA 1200 mobo. Getting a new mobo with wifi and will set me back another $600. might as well just invest that towards a better GPU.
The Intel slides have it practically tied with the 9950X, which we know is practically tied with the 9700X. If there's a difference it should be 1-2% only, which you already agreed is meaningless. After the 24H2 update we would expect the 9700X to be very close to the 14900K also.
winjer
Gold Member
And the gaming king will still be the 7800X3D.
Though, the 9800X3D should be around the corner.
SolidQ
Member
Leonidas
AMD's Dogma: ARyzen (No Intel inside)
Maybe so, but it remains to be seen.
But it does seem Arrow Lake will benefit from faster RAM. DDR5 8000 is expected to boost Arrow Lake by another 5%.
At any rate, no matter which CPU I upgrade to, Arrow Lake, X3D, we're only talking at best a 5-13% increase over my overclocked 13600K. A very small number. Something which I don't care about, but I will end up upgrading because in addition to faster gaming, I will also get much better MT and ST and probably much better emulation as well, thanks to the fact that Arrow Lake appears to have the highest ST of any desktop CPU in 2024.
Von Hugh
Member
You are cracking me up, dude.
The day Leonidas says something negative about Intel is the day we will know that his NeoGaf account got hacked.