But it definitely did not work with Gorge. I can't watch that video right now. What happens in it?
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Maybe a special exception for the toss then? I know just using Gorge and walking in didn't work.
It's something I've seen a lot and internalized, but that was the only bit of video proof I could remember off the top of my head of a player getting behind a wall and not popping up. I could also look up videos of people teleporting themselves past gates and not bouncing, but I wanted something Stitches related. But I know for sure that Stitches can Gorge people through gates.
The hook definitely doesn't let people pass through gates though. It's designed that way on purpose. A player can't be hooked through anything they wouldn't be able to walk past, with the exception of other players.
Edit: Okay, this is a bad post. You can hook over empty space and barriers of trees and such. The main thing I wanted to highlight was that you can't go through unallied buildings and walls if you're hooked.
The hook definitely doesn't let people pass through gates though. It's designed that way on purpose. A player can't be hooked through anything they wouldn't be able to walk past, with the exception of other players.
Edit: Okay, this is a bad post. You can hook over empty space and barriers of trees and such. The main thing I wanted to highlight was that you can't go through unallied buildings and walls if you're hooked.
SteveWinwood
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The TI4 invites went out.
Also the qualifiers streaming is happening in collaborations of popular streamers in "hubs" both in europe and north america.
It's going to be pretty crazy.
Also the qualifiers streaming is happening in collaborations of popular streamers in "hubs" both in europe and north america.
It's going to be pretty crazy.
Alright, that makes sense.
SteveWinwood
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Has anyone played Sins of a Dark Age?
It's some moba on early access, it's not ftp but it is only 5 bucks with all the heroes unlocked and only cosmetic stuff for sale. I first noticed it because it has full steam market integration so if it's anything like dota all that cosmetic junk will be dirt cheap there.
They keep talking about how it's from the sins of a solar empire people but that's a totally different game so not sure why that matters.
It's some moba on early access, it's not ftp but it is only 5 bucks with all the heroes unlocked and only cosmetic stuff for sale. I first noticed it because it has full steam market integration so if it's anything like dota all that cosmetic junk will be dirt cheap there.
They keep talking about how it's from the sins of a solar empire people but that's a totally different game so not sure why that matters.
Pureauthor
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Interesting map design. How big is it?
Rygar 8 Bit
Jaguar 64-bit
looks about the same length as the normal conquest map just thinner due to not having a mid lane but i cant wait till this weekend to try it out open ptr for it either friday or saturday
Garena whats your problem?
nvm, fake story
dave is ok
aztek is ok
I haven't watched much League lately, but is the current meta really for both teams to just send everyone to an empty lane and collude to take undefended towers right as the game starts?
If so, wow.
If so, wow.
I haven't played it, but I did look into it when I noticed it was on the Steam market. (e.g. watching quick looks)
It's actually pretty old (~2+ years I think?) and supposedly no one plays it anymore. As always though I am not an expert, it might have a community as vibrant as Infinite Crisis.
Sorry for the cheap shot ITAB.
SteveWinwood
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How do they plan on fixing it?
They're making the top and bottom turrets asymmetrical. The bottom lane turrets are getting bonus armor, which means that if a team wants to rush a turret they'll likely be rushing the same one. They're also increasing the gold from dragon, making it much more desirable to defend the bottom lane.
You better god damned watch yourself mister.
Glad to hear it was fake.
Why is the strat beneficial for both teams? Why not choose a line up that can punish early pushing?
dave is ok
aztek is ok
It's because the blue buff is top lane for Blue and bottom lane for Purple or something.
They started having to defend blue with four people and then that turned into pushing down two towers before the game starts... or something
dota players (?) chillin on some league
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=saDE9hdXGYA
while the the proposed changes are explicitly meant to address 4v0 (with the trinket change being more important than the "anti-push" tower changes), there have been pro players saying that it doesn't change much at all, it'll just make 4v0 last 5 minutes longer
4v0 is definitely more exciting to a less casual viewer but not by that much
that strategy is indicative of how league ppl think. it's an objective focused numbers game, and this is thought to be one of the most "efficient" starts
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=saDE9hdXGYA
while the the proposed changes are explicitly meant to address 4v0 (with the trinket change being more important than the "anti-push" tower changes), there have been pro players saying that it doesn't change much at all, it'll just make 4v0 last 5 minutes longer
4v0 is definitely more exciting to a less casual viewer but not by that much
that strategy is indicative of how league ppl think. it's an objective focused numbers game, and this is thought to be one of the most "efficient" starts
Would just delay the advancement of items even more. We already have wards, dust, smoke, TP scrolls, etc, putting a drain on laners' money. Don't need another moneysink for Fortify!
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SteveWinwood
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It's not like Dota is less objective-based or that its players think differently. Icefrog just makes sure that there are always tons of equally viable objectives you can't simply number-crunch and develop a single super-efficient strat.
Is this 4v0 stuff dependent on team composition at all? Can you reliably counterpick it?
oh I wasn't trying to say something about dota im not particularly versed in dota's scene atm
4v0 is definitely team comp dependent, but you cannot hard counter it at the moment (or at least this technology has not been found or executed correctly and consistently). when it first came about you saw people trying to get around it but they would always get dove or overrun and just come out of it with less global gold
team comp dependent also means different things in league than in dota which has more specific hero skills
before the trinket change you would see a lot of 2v1 -> jungler coming to the 2 lane and diving
this was usually better for bot lane since it could be converted to a dragon pickup, but you also saw some solo laners outplaying the dive
after the trinket change (basically not allowing trinket usage before minion spawns) it would be too costly to get the correct information for lane assignment. you would see a lot of teams rushing out of base to watch chokepoints rather than invading and getting information. they are about to revert the trinkets tho, so we'll see
4v0 is definitely team comp dependent, but you cannot hard counter it at the moment (or at least this technology has not been found or executed correctly and consistently). when it first came about you saw people trying to get around it but they would always get dove or overrun and just come out of it with less global gold
team comp dependent also means different things in league than in dota which has more specific hero skills
before the trinket change you would see a lot of 2v1 -> jungler coming to the 2 lane and diving
this was usually better for bot lane since it could be converted to a dragon pickup, but you also saw some solo laners outplaying the dive
after the trinket change (basically not allowing trinket usage before minion spawns) it would be too costly to get the correct information for lane assignment. you would see a lot of teams rushing out of base to watch chokepoints rather than invading and getting information. they are about to revert the trinkets tho, so we'll see
No offense taken.
That does sound terrible. Their way of nerfing the strat just seems so short-sighted to me, I'd imagine dumping armor onto specific towers could easily impact other parts the game unfavorably.
Like I said above, introducing TPs would not only at least partly solve this particular issue but make League a much more dynamic game overall.
Head of Vengarl
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New god coming out in the upcoming Smite update.
New God: Osiris
Basic Attack (Special)
Osiris duel wields his Sickle and Flail, with a 4 hit attack sequence of 0.5/1/0.5/1s, where the last two hits deal damage to all enemies in the melee area.
Fragmented (Passive)
Each time Osiris uses an ability he burns away a fragment of his body, gaining 2% physical damage mitigation for each missing fragment. After losing 8 fragments, he becomes his Spirit form. While in Spirit form he may walk through enemies and enemy blockers, and his basic attacks do not incur a movement penalty. This effect lasts for 6 successful basic attacks.
Sickle Strike
Osiris throws his Sickle forward. It stops at the first enemy hit, slowing 20% for 3s, and dealing 60/100/140/180/220 +30% of his physical power as damage. The Sickle remains stuck in the target for the duration of the slow. Cooldown 5s. Cost 30.
Spirit Flail
Osiris imbues his flail with spiritual energy, striking at the target ground location. Enemies hit take 80/130/180/230/280 + 60% of his physical power as damage, and Osiris gains 20% movement speed for 3s. If an enemy is under the effect of Sickle Strike, the Sickle is ripped out, and the target slow is increased in power and duration to 50% for 4s. Cooldown 10s. Cost 50/55/60/65/70.
Judgement Tether
Osiris flings out mummy wraps, tethering himself to all nearby enemies for 4s. Targets hit have all their damage reduced by 10/15/20/25/30% +5% per second. The tether can be broken by targets moving far enough away from Osiris. Targets still in range after 4s, when the duration expires, are stunned for 2s. Cooldown 18s. Cost 60/65/70/75/80.
Lord of the Afterlife
Osiris sheds any remaining fragments, immediately gaining the benefit of his passive, and leaps forward. Osiris will target the lowest health god in the area he lands and rip a fragment of their spirit out, dealing 300/400/500/600/700 +100% of his physical power as damage. Additionally, the target god can not receive healing from any source for the next 6s, until their spirit returns. Enemy minions and neutral jungle camps in the target area take double damage from this ability. Cooldown 90. Cost 100.
Rygar 8 Bit
Jaguar 64-bit
can test out isiris and the new map on the test client dl it here http://forums.smitegame.com/showthread.php?7952-PTS-Intructions-and-Limitations
they are trying to get teams together that can be competitive for worlds. the summer split actually matters for this, so now (the offseason) is the time for trades, buyouts, broken hearts crushed dreams. also many players hold their deep deep emotions inside during the split for the sake of their teams and only disclose their intention to leave/do their own thing after the split is over
there are many incentives for players from eu and kr to move to na teamz (mainly $ and recognition, in and out)
many reveals for league are in this style: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_3jF1ijPnPQ&feature=youtu.be&t=2m26s
there are many incentives for players from eu and kr to move to na teamz (mainly $ and recognition, in and out)
many reveals for league are in this style: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_3jF1ijPnPQ&feature=youtu.be&t=2m26s
Schweinehund
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Dark Souls 2 has sucked me in and killed the dota.
Old habits die hard though. Legit shook that there weren't any heroes last update. Was hoping for a slight movement speed decrease on invoker's wex orbs but atleast icefraud smothered Terroblade and Lycan.
Old habits die hard though. Legit shook that there weren't any heroes last update. Was hoping for a slight movement speed decrease on invoker's wex orbs but atleast icefraud smothered Terroblade and Lycan.
I'm still depressed Shiphtur and ZionSpartan left for Dignitas. Coast had an unbeatable roster of the stupidest names I've ever seen in e-sports.
Legit worried I'll never hear an LCS caster say "Nintendudex" again.
SteveWinwood
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We're gonna get like 3 heroes in a few weeks!
*Note, "few" is defined here as "less then 52"