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Meh, 5.1 didn't help shit with my iPod. Still won't acknowledge any updates I do to my MP3 ID3 tags at all, and it still won't create a local backup (it insists on flipping over to iCloud all the time).

>:( worthless piece of trash.
 
if I delete a photo stream pic from my phone does it delete it from photo steam all together or is it still going to end up on my other devices?
 
Ken Masters said:
if I delete a photo stream pic from my phone does it delete it from photo steam all together or is it still going to end up on my other devices?
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It deletes it from photo stream all together (if it was uploaded after the 5.1 update).

However, if the photo was already downloaded on to your computer, it will stay there.

It just deletes it from the cloud.
 
I'm wondering how the lockscreen of a camera iPad looks like with iOS 5.1. Someone care to post a screenshot?
 
This should save some headaches. If you uncheck sync apps, you get the option to keep them on the device now.

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No swipe then on the iPad. Thanks.

giga, is there a valid solution to micromanage apps and keep the app data? I really want to remove some large apps from my phone but I don't want to lose their data.
 
jts said:
No swipe then on the iPad. Thanks.

giga, is there a valid solution to micromanage apps and keep the app data? I really want to remove some large apps from my phone but I don't want to lose their data.
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Apart from making a backup, I don't think so. Syncing app data would be a nice feature, though devs are encouraged to use iCloud right now.
 
giga said:
Apart from making a backup, I don't think so. Syncing app data would be a nice feature, though devs are encouraged to use iCloud right now.
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yeah, the problem here is that icloud will delete app data if the app is only on one ios device and you want to delete it.

so if you need to delete a game that uses icloud saving and don't want to lose progress ,you need to store it on two devices.

sigh... it's still early goings.
 
grrrr.
wanted to update my iphone4s 5.0.1 jailbreak to 5.1 (i don't care about the jailbreak).
But it don't work on my mac, also not the dfu mode...

And now i don't know, what else i can try.
 
Does 5.1 bring dictation to iphone/ipod touch, or is that ipad only? Seems something that'd be straightforward to bring to all devices


they need a camera hard key. then you could just long press it to bring up the camera when locked, no silly swiping needed
 
Hey, iOS-GAF, could you answer a question pertaining to my situation?:

I'm due for a phone upgrade soon, and I plan to get the iPhone. One of the many perks of this will be that I will be able to sell my 64GB iPod Touch to a friend and finally be able to have my phone also act as my music player.

I love being able to have my entire music collection (which is about 53GB) with me every. I always thought the plan would be to get a 64GB iPhone. The majority of my space will be used by music. I don't mess with that many apps or put video on my phone. However, the 64GB iPhone is quite a bit more money than the 16GB iPhone. With iTunes Match around, is it viable to get a 16GB iPhone and use iTunes Match for my entire music collection? Is it efficient? Is it quick? Is it essentially the same as having my music on the iPhone? Or should I just pony up the cash and get a 64GB version and just have all of my music on the phone?
 
Fuck Apple

Every fucking time I update the firmware for the iPhone I have problems where I end up having to reset the fucking thing to factory defaults, EVERY TIME.

In this case, it is forever stuck in "verifying iphone restore".
 
Stat Flow said:
Hey, iOS-GAF, could you answer a question pertaining to my situation?:

I'm due for a phone upgrade soon, and I plan to get the iPhone. One of the many perks of this will be that I will be able to sell my 64GB iPod Touch to a friend and finally be able to have my phone also act as my music player.

I love being able to have my entire music collection (which is about 53GB) with me every. I always thought the plan would be to get a 64GB iPhone. The majority of my space will be used by music. I don't mess with that many apps or put video on my phone. However, the 64GB iPhone is quite a bit more money than the 16GB iPhone. With iTunes Match around, is it viable to get a 16GB iPhone and use iTunes Match for my entire music collection? Is it efficient? Is it quick? Is it essentially the same as having my music on the iPhone? Or should I just pony up the cash and get a 64GB version and just have all of my music on the phone?
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If your network service is fast and reliable it’s almost the same as having your library on the phone.

5.1 recently fixed some issues with artwork and genius playlists but genius mixes still aren’t available.

but note that when you listen to a song, it downloads locally for offline use later on. so, if you listen to a lot of shuffle playlists, what happens is your space fills up with more and more audio and then you may have to go into the iPhone music player and start manually deleting albums from your ~13.5 GB of local storage.

I have a 32 GB model and have not yet come across this (I have around 120 GB of music on my Mac) but I tend to listen to the same dozen albums for a few weeks at a time so I haven’t had to manually delete anything. just saying it’s a possibility.

but, yeah, iTunes match has been great. Not only by making all songs available, but by syncing metadata and new playlists made anywhere. It’s great, regardless of how much local storage you have on the phone.
 
giga said:
This should save some headaches. If you uncheck sync apps, you get the option to keep them on the device now.

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I've noticed this has been sort of happening before this update. I have an old iPhone 3G. A few of my apps have been updated beyond compatibility for my phone. Before, this meant it would no longer sync, meaning it would remove it from the device. It seems recently, it changed, and it would stop the syncing, but leave the older non-updated app on my phone, even if the iTunes version was newer.
 
Wonderful, now I can remove the app syncing between iTunes and my iPhone. I rarely need iTunes anymore, especially with my new dependence on Spotify and iCloud so see little reason to be syncing with it either.
 
If I have content in iTunes that isn't uploaded to iTunes Match for whatever reason (in this case low bitrate), how can I get it onto my phone without disabling iTunes Match and syncing manually through iTunes?
 
Ether_Snake said:
Fuck Apple

Every fucking time I update the firmware for the iPhone I have problems where I end up having to reset the fucking thing to factory defaults, EVERY TIME.

In this case, it is forever stuck in "verifying iphone restore".
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I had the same problem with my first gen iPad. Are you updating the firmware directly on your phone, or through iTunes? My problem ended up being my iTunes install. No problems since I've started updating straight from the device.
 
restored my iphone4 for 5.1 since it had been running like utter ass for a while, and tried to sync stuff from icloud.

lost a few hundred photos that somehow aren't coming through my photostream even though they were there before i restored, and my tinytower save (166 floors, all residents in dream job)

i'm sure i just did something in the wrong order but still sucks. there's a hard backup on my pc if i ever really wanted to restore that and grab that, but then restoring again and do all the app downloading would be a pain in the ass. losing the snapiness on the phone really sucks, but this may not have been the better option.

:(
 
haven't used my ipad's camera much but was playing with it today and they changed the photo taking button on IOS5.1 which is neat.

swipe to open camera on the phone is great though.


gotta say, the upgrade to IOS5 wiped my ipad which greatly pissed me off but this time both the phone and ipad managed. :)
 
I don't know where this goes with all the iOS topics, but is this the place to ask if there's a general consensus on if there will be a new iPhone in June, or if it will be in the fall? I know the normal launch is in June with WWDC, but 4S bucked that trend. Wife is wanting to try something new and switch to iPhone from Android, and I'll probably just come along because we typically like to use the same phones. She normally needs help figuring them out so it just makes my life easier.

Also, switching from the EVO with a 4.3" screen, I'm really hoping that the 5 has at least a 4" screen. 4" would actually be perfect as it has more real estate for my big fingers, but not a super bulky phone either. I've seen rumors it's supposed to be bigger than 3.5", but nobody really knows until Apple announces it.
 
LCfiner said:
If your network service is fast and reliable it’s almost the same as having your library on the phone.

5.1 recently fixed some issues with artwork and genius playlists but genius mixes still aren’t available.

but note that when you listen to a song, it downloads locally for offline use later on. so, if you listen to a lot of shuffle playlists, what happens is your space fills up with more and more audio and then you may have to go into the iPhone music player and start manually deleting albums from your ~13.5 GB of local storage.

I have a 32 GB model and have not yet come across this (I have around 120 GB of music on my Mac) but I tend to listen to the same dozen albums for a few weeks at a time so I haven’t had to manually delete anything. just saying it’s a possibility.

but, yeah, iTunes match has been great. Not only by making all songs available, but by syncing metadata and new playlists made anywhere. It’s great, regardless of how much local storage you have on the phone.
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The OS will automatically delete locally stored songs if space is needed. It chooses the ones that haven't been listened to the longest.

You shouldn't have to manually delete songs, in theory.

@andycapps, its looking like Fall.
 
Have they said that or just assuming that they wouldn't screw over 4S adopters?

thewesker said:
I'm not eligible for an upgrade until October, so "the new iPhone" coming out around that time would be okay for me!
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We're up for one now with Sprint so that's why it's going to be a long wait. We could get 4S's now, but it's a smaller screen than I'd like, and I don't want to be stuck in a contract when I know a new version is coming out in a few months. Plus, with the new iPad having 4G, I'd assume the new one will too, and I want access to that.
 
Is iTunes match worth it yet? I know there were matching problems when it first released. I have a ton of songs and now so many Idevices in my house that I really need to start using the cloud.

Is there any software program that will help fix id3 tags or is that not how matching is done?
 
andycapps said:
Have they said that or just assuming that they wouldn't screw over 4S adopters?



We're up for one now with Sprint so that's why it's going to be a long wait. We could get 4S's now, but it's a smaller screen than I'd like, and I don't want to be stuck in a contract when I know a new version is coming out in a few months.
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They have to unveil iOS 6 and go through a beta cycle, which takes 3 months. Since there was no announcement at the iPad event, they would have to set up a new event in less than a month. Unlikely. iOS 6 will be announced in June at WWDC which means Fall for the new iPhone.

Basically, wait for the OS announcement and tack on three months. That's your answer.
 
Tobor said:
They have to unveil iOS 6 and go through a beta cycle, which takes 3 months. Since there was no announcement at the iPad event, they would have to set up a new event in less than a month. Unlikely. iOS 6 will be announced in June at WWDC which means Fall for the new iPhone.

Basically, wait for the OS announcement and tack on three months. That's your answer.
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Gotcha, thanks for the info! I've had the same phone now for almost 2 years so I'll be good another 6 months or so.
 
Tobor said:
The OS will automatically delete locally stored songs if space is needed. It chooses the ones that haven't been listened to the longest.

You shouldn't have to manually delete songs, in theory.

@andycapps, its looking like Fall.
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ok, that's pretty cool. I need to read up on this (or maybe you know) will it only delete music if you add more music or will it delete music if you add any app or document?

I'm a few GB away from hitting my storage limit so I was getting close to the point where I thought I'd have to start deleting songs.
 
QUESTION

One of my coworkers received a 3GS as a gift. She has never hooked it to a computer with iTunes. She wants to update to iOS 5. If I connect her phone to iCloud will I be able to wipe it?


Wait crap, she still has iOS4. That means no iCloud right? How the hell do i get a backup off her phone so I can update her phone and tie it to a computer?
 
blackflag said:
Is iTunes match worth it yet? I know there were matching problems when it first released. I have a ton of songs and now so many Idevices in my house that I really need to start using the cloud.

Is there any software program that will help fix id3 tags or is that not how matching is done?
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Doesn't match based on id3 tags - think more like how Shazaam works. Matches based on the song itself.

Also - iTunes match when loaded up on an iphone/ipod touch will remove all music thats on that device then you have the option of downloading anything that is in the cloud. I personally really love iTunes match for OSX since you can stream and only like it for iOS.

That being said - stop being lazy and a slob and clean up your damn id3 tags!
 
The_Inquisitor said:
QUESTION

One of my coworkers received a 3GS as a gift. She has never hooked it to a computer with iTunes. She wants to update to iOS 5. If I connect her phone to iCloud will I be able to wipe it?


Wait crap, she still has iOS4. That means no iCloud right? How the hell do i get a backup off her phone so I can update her phone and tie it to a computer?
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Not quite understanding what you mean but can't you just connect it to any computer and update from iTunes? I'm probably misunderstanding you though.
 
Treefingers said:
Not quite understanding what you mean but can't you just connect it to any computer and update from iTunes? I'm probably misunderstanding you though.
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No you cannot. Again, this phone was not connected to a computer period. I am 99 percent certain iTunes will wipe her phone data when it updates to iOS5. Because she has no backup nothing will be able to restore. I need to generate a backup file somehow.
 
The_Inquisitor said:
QUESTION

One of my coworkers received a 3GS as a gift. She has never hooked it to a computer with iTunes. She wants to update to iOS 5. If I connect her phone to iCloud will I be able to wipe it?


Wait crap, she still has iOS4. That means no iCloud right? How the hell do i get a backup off her phone so I can update her phone and tie it to a computer?
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I am pretty sure she can connect it to a computer, refuse the syncing prompts in itunes, and backup the iphone. After that, she can perform an update to iOS 5 and restore from that backup. then switch the backups to icloud once ios 5 is installed.

itunes only asks to wipe stuff if it sees the phone has been synced to a different library. and it only asks to wipe things on a specic basis. like, if you try to sync apps, it will ask you to wipe apps, if you try to sync music. it will ask to wipe music.

but, again, that's only if itunes sees that this iphone has been synced to a different library.

try hooking it up first and see if you can skip all those prompts and just make the backup.
 
LCfiner said:
ok, that's pretty cool. I need to read up on this (or maybe you know) will it only delete music if you add more music or will it delete music if you add any app or document?

I'm a few GB away from hitting my storage limit so I was getting close to the point where I thought I'd have to start deleting songs.
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That's a good question. I assume it's anything, but Apple hasn't clarified.

http://www.macworld.com/article/163676/2011/11/secrets_of_itunes_match.html

Of course, one of the benefits of iTunes Match is that you can free up extra space on your iOS devices by not syncing your entire library. Once you start downloading lots of songs as you play them back, does that advantage vanish? In a word: No. In more words: With iTunes Match enabled, your iOS device will automatically remove some downloaded songs over time. The algorithm is smart—older and least-played tracks are removed first.

Apple hasn’t clarified under precisely which circumstances songs get removed. Perhaps one day we’ll see an option to control how much storage space iTunes Match can use for caching on your device, but no such option exists yet. So while you can manually remove tracks from your iOS device by swiping as if to delete them (which leaves the iCloud-stored track in place, but frees up the few megabytes the song requires), it shouldn't be necessary; your device will take care of eliminating old tracks automatically.
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LCfiner said:
I am pretty sure she can connect it to a computer, refuse the syncing prompts in itunes, and backup the iphone. After that, she can perform an update to iOS 5 and restore from that backup. then switch the backups to icloud once ios 5 is installed.
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Okay I will give it a shot. Thanks
 
The_Inquisitor said:
No you cannot. Again, this phone was not connected to a computer period. I am 99 percent certain iTunes will wipe her phone data when it updates to iOS5. Because she has no backup nothing will be able to restore. I need to generate a backup file somehow.
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Oh I see. Can't you connect it and set it to backup via iTunes? Then once it's made a backup update it?

Edit: Ah beaten.

To be absolutely sure that it won't sync I would go to Preferences > Devices and check "Prevent iPods, iPhones and iPads from syncing automatically" before plugging in the iPhone
 
Anyone else having issues with the camera app not opening from the lock screen? Worked before the recent update, now it does nothing. Reset of the phone didn't help. :-\
 
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