Jelly Bean looks great but nothing that would make me switch especially considering the difference in app support between the two. The two OS's seem on par with each other; it's not like JB just made iOS obsolete. When I read some posts here and especially in The Verge forums, it seems like some people have smartphone ADD talking about how bored they are with iOS and how Apple is not changing it enough.
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Mecha_Infantry
Banned
I'm not gonna speak anymore on android in an apple thread, but I don't think it's us getting bored per say. It's maybe the lack of new features.
I don't care about new UI or new colours or layouts, I like new features. Things to make my life easier if possible. Using 4.0 this week made me painfully aware some basics iOS is missing
But yeah, android can be fucking terrible with apps. Lawd gawd
What basic features does android have that apple doesn't? My wife is getting an android phone and I am curious as to what to highlight to her.
alysonwheel
Member
Man, I wish you worked at Apple. I've stopped using the double-tap music controls because I listen to audio books a lot and I'm as likely to accidentally skip to the next chapter as I am to pause. Ten minutes of experimenting with pausing and playing music from the lock screen should have showed them how poorly designed it is.
New Nexus devices are usually released towards the end of the year i.e. October/November/December. There are rumored to be 5 Nexus devices released this year (Galaxy Nexus, Nexus 7, Nexus Q and two more unknowns for later this year?)
Yep. Power users are strange animals.
Neverender
Member
I have no idea if anyone else would get use of this, but I wish the music/podcast apps had 'driving controls' or something where the play/skip controls were a lot bigger. So many times I've been listening to a podcast while driving, and skip back to the start when meaning to hit the tiny pause button. This is especially annoying as skipping back loses your progress
They really don't need to do that if they were to just space the damn buttons out.
I think the music app's playback buttons are great, even though the three buttons are in rectangles, those serve more as visual cues than actual buttons, since the hit target is more or less the same (icon centered).
Don't all frustrated iOS users wish that at some point? :lol But yeah, it used to be a big issue with podcasts since if you hit previous, you lose all the progress. However, those prev/next buttons in iOS 6 have been replaced with little jumper icons that let you ff or back 15 secs. Not more next/prev. though.
Also, anyone else starting to really not like some of the gloss in iOS? Esp. after using 6 a bunch, where so much is gradient instead, some stuff just feels jarring imo. Like the damn playback buttons in the switcher (should be gradient/chrome imo) or the dark blue pop-up menus, etc.
It's just such an unnecessary inconvenience. Not to mention the double clicking being inaccurate/fiddly at times and not getting it first try. I want to quickly pause and there's no good way to do that.
Why hide something like that when you can fit it in the same top bezel space, anyway? The album artwork being plastered on your lock screen but with no actual controls, is something I never really liked either. If it was in the top right corner in a frame (like when you have an incoming call) that'd make sense, but it's a focal point when you're listening to audio so why not have visible, no intrusive controls?
PS. I may be OCDing here but am I the only who can't stand how the album artwork isn't aligned with the top lock screen bezel? It's just 6 damn pixels off!
Ingueferroque
Banned
Last IOS beta, a year ago, I had someone register my UDID. Now I'd like to play around with IOS 6, but I'm afraid I'm not registered anymore and I will essentially brick my device.
Is there a way to find out if my UDID is still registered as a developer account?
Is there a way to find out if my UDID is still registered as a developer account?
You can't just leave the controls there all the time, people will accidentally press the buttons. Nobody is going to accidentally double click the home button. It makes perfect sense the way it works now.
CrunchinJelly
formerly cjelly
It's a beta. Subsequent releases will fix some things and break some others.
Just wait for the full thing.
I understand that, but I'm just wondering if there have any updates to the beta that have made it slightly more stable.
Bboy AJ
My dog was murdered by a 3.5mm audio port and I will not rest until the standard is dead
Go back to it when it goes gold.
TheChewyWaffles
Member
The screen will lock. Look ma, no buttons.
The controls would only be there when there's music playing, not all the time. Also remember that it auto-locks itself after a short timespan, anyway. I doubt people would accidentally be hitting the controls when they only have a short time to make such a mistake to begin with.
But hell, double click or not, the buttons need a makeover (spacing specifically).
They've worked fine for years, what makes them suddenly broken? Or is this just a case of advocating change for the sake of change?
They weren't always spaced like this iirc. And it isn't change for the sake of it, it's also about consistency with the new music app. They drastically changed the feel of those default playback buttons, and in a smart way imo (specifically spacing) so there's no reason not to translate that to the lock screen controls as well.
Not to mention keeping the top bezel size consistent/covering up the album art as little as possible, is a plus imo.
Sorry if i'm derailing the thread. :lol btw, do we know when exactly iOS 6 will go 'gold'?
You can't leave the controls on the lock screen anytime the music is playing. There absolutely would be accidental presses, and it would be highly annoying. They've already solved this issue by having the user double click the home button. You're trying to break something that works.
Mecha_Infantry
Banned
I'm not going to shit up this thread anymore, but read this then talk to the android boys in the form
http://www.theverge.com/2012/7/3/3134347/android-4-1-jelly-bean-review
Stumpokapow
listen to the mad man
Google Goggles
Google Starcharts (I can't remember the proper name for this application)
Both those applications are really, really excellent.
The entire home button mechanism is a cop out that is long overdue. It was a hardware solution to a software problem. It isn't a mystery that the home button is a pos, esp. for double clicks.
For a device that's main pillars is music it just feels like a lazy implementation of access at this point. Less people use the lock screen controls because of it, and I think they realized this when they changed the camera from a button (that would only show up when double clicking the home button) to a grabber that's there at all times. That extra step was enough for them to find a way to get rid of the double click, and I don't think ease of playback is any different.
My phone has play controls on the lock screen, I've never accidentally pressed the control buttons.
Might be because they're spaced out properly though.
If they want to add another slider for music controls like they did for the camera, that's fine. I do not want the buttons just sitting there on the screen. That would be worse than the current implementation.
CrunchinJelly
formerly cjelly
Yep. Same text just added the date.
There's been an update already (beta 2) and will probably be another one very soon. In past betas they usually were updated every 2-3 weeks.
Like others said though, it's going to be unstable and unoptimized during the beta period (especially these early betas). You're better off just waiting.
Jayayess1190
Member
Google Googles is on iOS in the Google Search app.
chickdigger802
Banned
Use Downcast which has driving friendly gestures (swipe left to skip back 30 secs, right, to fast forward, double tap on screen to pause).
ew. why did they update the music controls but not the slide to unlock? Clashing styles. Ew.
DataStream
Member
The menu isn't a drawer anymore and looks different from what I remember:
So gross looking
Probably some time this week or early next.
Pretty sure they release them when they're ready, no stringent schedule but generally every 2-3 weeks.
mescalineeyes
Banned
They weren't always spaced like this iirc. And it isn't change for the sake of it, it's also about consistency with the new music app. They drastically changed the feel of those default playback buttons, and in a smart way imo (specifically spacing) so there's no reason not to translate that to the lock screen controls as well.
Not to mention keeping the top bezel size consistent/covering up the album art as little as possible, is a plus imo.
Sentry plz. That volume slider needs to have way more spacing than that.
Stumpokapow
listen to the mad man
Anyone else getting lots and lots of crashes related to location services and/or photo permissions?
I'm getting
- Crashes in Picup when I go to select a photo and it offers me the permission dialogue
- Crashes in Pair when I launch it (I think this is related to location services)
- Crashes in Mobile Safari when I go to yelp and authorize it to use my location.
Those are all I can remember off the top of my head, but I think there's a few others as well.
Last I remembered, it was a pale imitation. Maybe not.
I'm getting
- Crashes in Picup when I go to select a photo and it offers me the permission dialogue
- Crashes in Pair when I launch it (I think this is related to location services)
- Crashes in Mobile Safari when I go to yelp and authorize it to use my location.
Those are all I can remember off the top of my head, but I think there's a few others as well.
Last I remembered, it was a pale imitation. Maybe not.
Overlaid 5.1.1 and 6 photos of the lockscreen music controls shows they haven't changed anything between the two. Your mockup also has more spacing issues than what we got, way too compact between the buttons and the volume bar.
That's Sentry's mockup, they haven't changed the buttons.
infiniteloop
Member
Phew. Looks terrible.
mescalineeyes
Banned
Man, it must be hard to please you.
Well, he removed the clock and squashed everything together!
mescalineeyes
Banned
The change was further back than 5.1 iirc. And yeah, that extended access view was just an attempt at not needing to cover the cover artwork any more than the default one does. I should note though, the actual spacing of the volume bar in terms of hit points, is no different from the current implementation. Visually it may look too compact, but functionally-wise it's basically the same (which was the idea, fit more without extending the bezel view)
In reality though (if they were to use the new music controls in iOS 6 on the lock screen) the double click screen would look more or less the same, just with updated buttons. I kind of doubt they'd actually ever condense the clock view to half bezel size (even if the vol. bar had more spacing).
Main point though, is that I wish they'd update the damn thing as well as keep them on-screen if something's playing. Oh and why not change the camera grabber into a music app shortcut when double clicked?
Anyway, the main thing I want in iOS is iPad style brightness bar in the switcher (posted this before but here's a mock) along with toggles instead of a damn volume bar on the last page. I find myself chaining the brightness a LOT and it's annoying as fuck to keep opening the settings app and navigating there. That alone makes jail breaking work it, to me.
The Lamonster
Member
Does iOS 6 allow you to move "Newsstand" to a folder? That bugs the shit out of me on iOS 5.
I'd also like to see a weather app that lists the current temp on the icon. Is that possible?
I'd also like to see a weather app that lists the current temp on the icon. Is that possible?
Syracuse022
Member
Neither of these have been fixed in iOS 6, but jailbreaking will allow you to do both.