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iOS Gaming Dec/Jan: GET
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More_Badass
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And yet another PC game comes to mobile! Been anticipating this one
Sneaky Sneaky, a turn based puzzle stealth game
NZ store link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XxlSju8R4oM
The game is short though. 15 levels, and I've read that it's about 3 hours long
Sneaky Sneaky, a turn based puzzle stealth game
NZ store link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XxlSju8R4oM
Sneak through the shadows, dash to cover, pick your moment and strike! Unleash your inner thief in this strategic stealth adventure. After the heist of a lifetime, Sneaky, the lovable rogue is ambushed! Plot, shoot, stab, and loot your way across the land to reclaim Sneaky’s twice-stolen treasure.
Sneaky Sneaky offers a mix of stealth and tactical gameplay. Move through the world freely, but watch your step. Getting spotted or initiating combat will trigger turn-based encounters. There is no single solution to the challenges set before you. Experiment and develop your own play style.
The game is short though. 15 levels, and I've read that it's about 3 hours long
Frontline : The Longest Day by Slitherine is out now on iOS:
https://itunes.apple.com/us/app/id935241858?mt=8
https://itunes.apple.com/us/app/id935241858?mt=8
Oh man-that looks right up my alley. I need it now!
Personally, The Nightmare Cooperative bored the crap out of me. It's a shame, because I was really psyched for it, but it just doesn't do it for me.
It's missing a certain... Something. And it needs that something to make it truly satisfying.
+1 on this. Look at the top grossing F2P games like Candy Crush and I'd say 99% of true hardcore gamers don't even have those games on their devices. I really don't understand anyone who thinks otherwise.
The people allowing these games to make millions are kids and casual gamers who get addicted to them.
I mean, I like match threes (premium, of course). But would I ever even classify such games as "hardcore"? Hell no.
And if a hardcore gamer was playing F2P money grabs, you better bet your sweet ass those are the ones doing whatever it takes to play without paying using whatever strategy they can.
Just my 2 cents.
Hardcore gamers typically have played PC and console games and want a premium game experience. Sure, content IAPs, full game unlocks, ad removers are fine,but endless IAPs to get around timers and consumables are not.
Look at Dungeon Keeper. Why do you think that game in particular is one of the most hated by hardcore gamers? Freemium ruined a true classic game that had a lot of memories for people.
This is great news. I spent so many hours playing that game years ago. I have always hoped a game like this would come out for iOS (I have played Palm Kingdoms a fair amount, too). Can't wait for Jan 29!
In both my professional and personal experience, you are wrong.
You can choose to believe what you will, but all the research leads back to hardcore gamers spending the most in F2P games, driven presumably out of them spending more on all types of games in general, valuing games more, and playing games more and longer (giving them more opportunity to spend).
If you need some anecdotal evidence that "hardcore" gamers can enjoy and spend in F2P mobile games, then there are Monster Strike, Clash of Clans, and WWE Supercard threads right here on GAF. Threads which have more posters and posts than the average "non bs" mobile game gets too BTW.
I know you asked not to Tunesmith, but I just have to. TA isn't giving Pocket Gamer credit for any of these freebie games, and Eli passed it off as just seeing it in AppShopper and posting the free deal. When it states in the developer description that it's due to the PG promo.
I'm not surprised, I mean, they're not exactly business partners. I don't think you should try to spin this one on Eli
I'll give the dude a free pass and entertain the idea that he just happened to see it show up as free, but he's been made aware and wants to compare it to 'Free App a Day.'
If Touch Arcade was considered for a site-wide ban on NeoGAF it would have my support. It's being intentionally dense and sleazy.
It's a joke, especially after the Shadow Blade article was added too. (I made the first comment on the Hoplite article about giving PG credit.)
Yep, it's legit. Been playing it today, took me a couple sessions for it to click and now I'm liking it a lot.
I don't know what I should do. Valiant Hearts just went on sale for $7.49 on PS4, but I already have the first episode bought on iPad. The unlock for the rest of the episodes is $8.99 on iPad. Which version is best, is touch better than playing with a controller? If so, I'll just spend $1.50 more.
Funny, I was in the same exact position but with my Xbox One - had bought the first episode on iOS then it went on sale for $7.49 on X1. Ended up getting the X1 version, primarily to save space on my mini. I can't compare the entire game, but touch works just as well for this kind of game (so far). Guess it's just a matter of preference.
By all means, get the full game one way or another, it's fantastic.
More_Badass
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Haven't played the game on consoles, but the touch controls can be a bit unresponsive at times, so I imagine that a controller would be better. Doesn't diminish the experience though IMO
Ditto. TNC is a beautiful looking game, but I lost interest very quickly. Pity, too, because I truly wanted to love it.
Hoplite, on the other hand, is my new jam. Awesome little game.
Frostt
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I said no too but its too shameful to pass on... I will safely bet anything important to me that if it was the other way around, like TA giving free top-notch paid games for a week, PocketGamer would credit them, as they have done in the past providing links to TA when they discovered something meaty. The opposites of a spectrum: nerd (Eli) vs Human beings (PocketGamer).
This exactly. I understand that they're competing sites, but honestly, I actually think when a website or any other publication gives credit to another one, it makes me respect them even more. It's just the professional way to go IMO.
...and looks like just for pointing that out on TA's comment section, I'm no longer allowed to comment there. Big surprise.
That's the professional way to run a site.More_Badass
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Got hooked on the Clone Wars series after seeing tons of praise for it in the Episode VII rumors thread, and I needed more Star Wars, so I finally got KOTOR
The visuals may be dated, but the game still holds up. The main twist got spoiled for me a while ago, but it really doesn't matter because the overall experience is so good. The combat, the worlds, the story, really just up there with the best RPGs.
The visuals may be dated, but the game still holds up. The main twist got spoiled for me a while ago, but it really doesn't matter because the overall experience is so good. The combat, the worlds, the story, really just up there with the best RPGs.
Frostt
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To me, hardcore gamer is someone who plays 200 hours of Oblivion, 200 of FallOut 3, 1000 hours in Modern Warfare 2, 1500 hours of Battlefield 3, 1000 hours on Battlefield 4 300 hours of Diablo 3, every single strategy game there is, and so on. Casuals playing Clash of Clans for a long stretch doesnt make them hardcore by any means, makes them casual gamers that spend some time here and there on those games. Much less any match-3 game or something like that. And mobile games can be discussed if they even enter that realm.
And those games you mentioned have slot machine tactics, hooking the player as if they were playing those things but camouflaged as games. They are not real games, no hardcore gamer would ever play those. I think you got that term completely wrong.
Yeah! If you liked Clone Wars you have to see the original Clone Wars cartoons by Tartakovsky (in case you haven't seen them yet). Oh and Star Wars Rebels is off to a great start!
Yes. And those are the people spending the most on mobile games.
Slot machine tactics? Like World of Warcraft and Diablo (which you mention above) leverage? Yes.
You are wrong. The threads here on GAF are proof of that.
More_Badass
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That's a pretty narrow-minded and unfair way to define who is or isn't a gamer. Actually I'm pretty fed up with that term in light of recent events. To divide and dismiss those who enjoy video games like that only hinders the medium's growth and maturity
Why Diablo? You can't spend any money in game and there's no slot machine tactics. You buy the game once and that's it.
I agree with you on that one. But it's a new category of gamers "The Hardcore Social Gamers" as I like to call them. They can overlap with the actual console/pc hardcore gamers but they are mostly focused on playing mobile games (well that's how I see "whales" anyways.)
Ivan A Nguyen
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I've been eyeing Monster Hunter Freedom Unite. Is there anyone around that plays online? I have it for the PSP, but I can't keep that thing charged for the life of me. I like the game and some of the additions look really enticing.
Rodney McKay
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Diablo 3 had a real money auction house for about 1 year or so in the PC version.
My friend made over $300 selling some epic wizard outfit he had gotten by playing the game non-stop for the first week. There are definitely people out there willing to spend a lot of money in-game, whether it's free-to-play or a $60 downloadable.
Mass Effect 3 is another "hardcore gamer" game that had had an in-game, real-world money system for its multiplayer mode, which made enough money for Bioware to continue putting out content updates to it over time.
More_Badass
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Dead Space 3 and GTA V have microtransactions as well
World of Warcraft and Diablo both use "slot machine mechanics" with respect to loot/drops as a core of those products in order to draw in and retain players.
The fact one is subscription based and the other is premium (with a player item sales/trading system mind) is irrelevant given my point was refuting that the use of gacha/slot machine type models necessarily means something is "not a real game".
An interesting hypothesis and those people do exist, but you are still be wrong. The people who spend the most gaming time gaming on consoles are also the people who spend the most money on mobile.
I'm not sure why people are so eager to somehow relegate people who spend a lot of money on mobile into some "other" group. F2P games aren't "real" games? Big spenders on mobile can't be "real" hardcore gamers? Kinda rich posting such things in the red headed stepchild iOS thread(s) that has had to defend itself multiple times and while iOS gaming in general still get drive by ridicule regularly.
Ouch, this F2P discussion is getting pretty ugly. I'll just say I don't immediately dismiss F2P games and certainly play my fair share of them. But I still believe the games that are making the millions upon millions are generally getting it from casual game playing moms and kids (like Candy Crush Saga). I have tons of gaming friends and not one would touch that game with a 10 foot pole. That's not to say there aren't some hardcore gamers who spend their fair share on F2P games, like Clash of Clans. But the ones I personally know play it as much as they can without paying.
Again, there are some great F2P games and I only oppose those that I think try to take advantage of people through endless microtransactions to get around wait timers and other mechanics where the ONLY reason they exist is to continue to get gamers to pay up.
For every one of those (unfortunately the ones that dominate the charts), there are a thousand more games that use F2P mechanics responsibly with full game unlocks, ad removers, additional content IAPs, etc. It's just the games that have no end in sight to IAPs that I can't stand.
And it doesn't validate those kind of gross money grabs if "hardcore" games like Mass Effect 3 or GTA have them. It's still an act of greed that has become too commonplace. Games can still be absolutely be successful without those tactics.
Again, there are some great F2P games and I only oppose those that I think try to take advantage of people through endless microtransactions to get around wait timers and other mechanics where the ONLY reason they exist is to continue to get gamers to pay up.
For every one of those (unfortunately the ones that dominate the charts), there are a thousand more games that use F2P mechanics responsibly with full game unlocks, ad removers, additional content IAPs, etc. It's just the games that have no end in sight to IAPs that I can't stand.
And it doesn't validate those kind of gross money grabs if "hardcore" games like Mass Effect 3 or GTA have them. It's still an act of greed that has become too commonplace. Games can still be absolutely be successful without those tactics.
More_Badass
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Was that really necessary? Especially since you, you know, post about and promote your games in those aftermentioned "red headed stepchild iOS threads"
OccamsBlender
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I'm going to take a not so wild guess and say that Doug Dug. is the next Pocket Gamer Advent freebie.
It's showing as dropping to free (probably at 11 EST) and got a 9/10 from PG.
And I don't have it yet
I really REALLY wanted to like this but I hate the controls, the amount of luck involved dealing with minotaurs and if you want a game in a similar vein with better controls and systems, go for Deep Loot.
"Red headed stepchild" is not an insult, but the reality in how these threads and the content therein have been treated historically within the wider context of GamingGAF. I happily read, enjoy, and participate in these threads. I am the red headed stepchild.
But my point is being an "iOS gamer" such as yourself, I find it somewhat hypocritical that you can call certain games not "real" games and certain gamers not "real" gamers when I'm sure you would agree iOS gaming itself has a stigma to overcome and certain elements of GAF would claim you yourself are not a "real" gamer and that the iOS games you play are not "real" games.
And I barely post in these threads promoting our own games. I've maybe made 3 posts all year "announcing" anything. Go back and check.
More_Badass
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I...uh, never posted with any comments like that. Well, not true, I was peeved about Candy Crush getting a perfect score, but that was because of the nature of what a perfect score indicates and because of the copy and paste nature of those games. Not because it was F2P or because I didn't believe it to be a "real game"
In fact, I commented on this very page about how I disliked the dividing and dismissive attitude of demeaning individuals because what kind of games they play. Games are for everyone to enjoy, to appeal to a vast array of tastes. Just as one can watch schlock b-movie films and indie dramas and blockblockers and enjoy them all, one can enjoy all manner of video games, from an obscure text adventure to CoD and Journey or a F2P Match-3
I've heard so much praise for this game over the years. It's time to finally check it out
More_Badass
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So what makes Slitherine's games so good? Never played one and Frontline: Longest Day looks pretty fun.
And it seems like Sneaky Sneaky isn't out in the US yet
And it seems like Sneaky Sneaky isn't out in the US yet
No worries
I would wait for the Christmas sales. Valiant Hearts iOS will probably go on sale then
KOTOR is a great iOS port. Enjoy
Clone Wars is great, watched the first 3 (maybe 2 and a half) seasons and really enjoyed them.
I've been watching a bit Star Wars Rebels (only a handful of episodes) and I've gotta say, I much prefer it to the Clone Wars. The original Universe is just so much better, and the story of Ezra is very very intruiging, more so than Ashoka in my opinion.
And yeah, I picked up KOTOR for my iPhone and it's fantastic, works surprisingly well on the small screen to (just until I get an iPad....). It's super Star Wars-y, which is awesome of course. BioWare do a fantastic job, and being able to craft a character in the Star Wars universe is unbelievably awesome.
More_Badass
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You haven't finished Clone Wars? The seasons only get better and better, and increasingly dark
That game sucked
So I've been playing VainGlory a bit and it's actually pretty cool (my experience with any sort of MOBA). I can totally see where the craze is coming from for these types of games, it's like someone looked a a list of things gamers like and cooked em up in a gene-splicing methamphetamine laboratory.
It's very pretty too
It's very pretty too
I just didn't have the time, and I started to lose interest. If I recall correctly I stopped watching when they did the 3 part thing about the Dark Witches, and the bald chick with double lightsabers (her name escapes me, which causes me to be disappointed in myself. It's something with a T right?) was the main focus, which, interestingly enough, is when the show started to take its biggest turn to darkness. I really enjoyed the storyline about the Mandalorians though, and the one bounty hunter who had a black lightsaber
I'm waiting for the Touch Arcade announcement before downloading.
EDIT: Too late (I just woke up and hadn't checked.) They even say that they don't know why it's on sale; great work so-called journalists.
Yeah, come to think of it, I first saw it on AppZapp before it even went free. Shame on me for giving credit to PG. What was I thinking?
Seriously though, I'm glad this was one of their picks. I overlooked it and, while it may not be for everyone, I'm finding it to be a pretty addictive little game.
Frostt
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You dont know the term, stop saying that. I know several hardcore gamers who wont spend a cent on freemium games at all (Godus, Clash of Clans, Warframe, ....) What you know as hardcore, isnt. Trust me.
Slot machine tactics is more like games like Godus where you come back every 2 hours to collect coins, or CCS, where you can buy extra lives. That is slot machine tactics, Diablo had a shop, yes, but the player benefits too from that, not just the developer asking for endless consumable IAP. Please never compare those two again, and this shows you know nothing... you actually embarrass PikPok with your "knowledge" about those things... please stop.
To me there has to be a difference, some way to differentiate people who play games from people who are ALWAYS playing games. Everybody can play games and be gamers, but the hardcore gamer is someone who breathes and thinks in videogames terms. I am not trying to demean anything (people get really offended these days my god), but there has to be a way to separate things. Like amateur soccer player from the professional soccer player and so on, so why not gaming too? I dont get it, its not narrow minded at all...
bobawesome
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Nearly three months later and The World Ends With You is STILL broken on iOS 8 with no fix in sight. Are they just waiting for iOS 9 to come out and praying that it miraculously fixes the initializing bug?