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[Kung Fu Jedi]

Fake Steve Jobs says:

"BlackBerry is dead. Microsoft is dead. Windows Mobile is dead. Amazon is dead. Kindle is dead. Nokia is dead. Motorola was already dead but now they are even more dead. Google's Android is dead. Samsung is dead. LG is dead. Sony is dead. UTStarcom is dead."

:lol

Still have a ways to go to prove themselves in the Enterprise market, but took some huge steps forward it seems.

 

[Burger]

I went on a tirade already. This wait is entirely too long.

So you want the means to create the apps, and the apps themselves to come out on the same day ? Or even within a month of each other ?

Right.........

 

[kennah]

:lol :lol :lol

I'm sorry, but right now, jailbreaking an iPod or and iPhone just takes 1 click. Literally. The hacking scene its in an all time high.

You've still got to wipe the device, downgrade to 1.1.2, jailbreak it, patch it, then jailbreak it again.

 

[kaching]

Jesus fuck. I think there can now be a consensus that this is the greatest gadget of all time, and the functionality will fly through the roof once the new firmware is released. This will become the defacto mobile device.

just about. I was toying with the idea of seeing what could be done with Android but this covers all the bases and then some.

 

[SonnyBoy]

So you want the means to create the apps, and the apps themselves to come out on the same day ? Or even within a month of each other ?

Right.........

1. I don't follow this stuff closely, I have a personal maid who relays this info to me. :lol
2. I wasn't aware that the kits hadn't be given to the developers yet until recently.
3. I was hoping they'd give us at least 1 free app to appease us.

 

[PotatoeMasher]

You've still got to wipe the device, downgrade to 1.1.2, jailbreak it, patch it, then jailbreak it again.

Nope. iNdependence jailbreaks 1.1.4 with one click.

 

[Kung Fu Jedi]

1. I don't follow this stuff closely, I have a personal maid who relays this info to me. :lol

Hey!! I resemble this remark!

 

[Mason]

So are we pretty damn sure a hardware update is coming sometime in June or shortly thereafter?

 

[StrikerObi]

My office runs out Outlook. Am I going to need to beg my IT guy to get my work mail via iPhone once 2.0 is out? Or will I just be able to plug in the server info without him flipping any switches?

 

[border]

Will the new iPhone support EDGE and 3G, or will you have to choose between the two?

 

[Kung Fu Jedi]

So are we pretty damn sure a hardware update is coming sometime in June or shortly thereafter?

Pure speculation at this point. June is the anniversary of the iPhone launch, so most people are expecting something. And 3G has been rumored for nearly the same length of time that the phone has been available.

My office runs out Outlook. Am I going to need to beg my IT guy to get my work mail via iPhone once 2.0 is out? Or will I just be able to plug in the server info without him flipping any switches?

Don't know for sure, but with Active Sync licensed, I don't think there will need to have anything done server side. Should be pretty seamless.

Will the new iPhone support EDGE and 3G, or will you have to choose between the two?

No new hardware has been announced yet. Period. As I said, pure speculation. But, once a 3G version is available, you shouldn't have to choose. It'll likely pick the fastest networking available.

 

[Enzom21]

You've still got to wipe the device, downgrade to 1.1.2, jailbreak it, patch it, then jailbreak it again.

No you don't, http://www.ziphone.org/ as others have said one button jailbreak.

 

[kaching]

After this, they've got to do something about the ringtone policy :lol

 

[Kung Fu Jedi]

After this, they've got to do something about the ringtone policy :lol

What about it? It's easy to get free ringtones. They don't need to do anything different.

 

[Nuclear Muffin]

As a random thought, can I upgrade my iphone from the 8GB to the 16GB and keep my contract going for my old sim?

I already have a 16GB version but I'm just thinking about a hypothetical 3G 32GB version

Oh and SMB = DAY ONE!

 

[6.8]

Too bad the free SDK's download link doesn't work. I wanted to play with it a bit.

 

[cjdunn]

The sites getting hammered. I just got in (barely).

 

[Yixian]

I don't really give a shit about the June release, all it means is we'll skip the period of frustration at having nothing to use in favor of anticipation.

Gonna be quite a lot of launch games I bet..

 

[Juice]

I AM MEGA HAPPY IN PANTS.

I'm a little bummed about the $99 entrance fee in principal, but other than that, knowing that any app I write can be found easily (in the sea of the 8 million other apps out there) on the App Store is crucial to me spending the time to develop on it. The iFund also has me intrigued.

The only thing they didn't mention was the screening process. After electing to have an app published, will they need to test it (by a human) for some amount of time? Will it be a day's lag? A week? Will every update you push out need to be tested to ensure it can't do VoIP over EDGE? The paranoid side of me is afraid that pushing out a critical fix to an app could get held up spuriously.

 

[Juice]

2.1 GB! What do they think I am? Made of bandwidth?!

 

[Juice]

This puts the iPhone on the level of a Windows Mobile device in terms of Exchange support. Very nice.

I also loved how Schiller spun the Blackberry Enterprise Server as bad thing. :lol

Spun? It IS a bad thing. The fact that nearly every managed BlackBerry's traffic has to go through RIM is a huge risk and liability. There's no redundancy and the silliest thing can break it.

It and pre-ActiveSync exchange has resulted in the assumption on the part of IT purse-holders to assume that you MUST have to pay for proprietary servers and services to integrate smartphones to your e-mail and calendaring system, and that's frankly not true.

Me, I'm still holding out for IBM's announced Lotus Notes port.

 

[kaching]

What about it? It's easy to get free ringtones. They don't need to do anything different.

Officially? Might as well tell me this SDK announcement wasn't necessary either because the homebrew community already has it covered.

I'm just saying with an official policy to support freeware apps, they really ought to re-evaluate their ringtone policy.

 

[krypt0nian]

That video is entirely too entertaining for a tech demo. Apple has my heart.

 

[cjdunn]

2.1 GB! What do they think I am? Made of bandwidth?!

Yikes. Okay, I'll wait until tomorrow and utilize the Tubes at work.

 

[SuperPac]

Officially? Might as well tell me this SDK announcement wasn't necessary either because the homebrew community already has it covered.

I'm just saying with an official policy to support freeware apps, they really ought to re-evaluate their ringtone policy.

What part of their current ringtone policy would they have to re-evaluate? You can buy ringtones via the iTunes Store if you want to or create as many as you want on your own for free. (You can even use Garageband to make 'em and put them directly into iTunes)

 

[yayaba]

Officially? Might as well tell me this SDK announcement wasn't necessary either because the homebrew community already has it covered.

I'm just saying with an official policy to support freeware apps, they really ought to re-evaluate their ringtone policy.

Apple officially supports custom ringtones through Garageband '08. Otherwise, you can take any sound file, convert it to AAC *.m4a and rename it to *.m4r and double click it. It will import into iTunes and come up as a Ringtone. That's how I get my custom sounds on there.

 

[Tobor]

I had to work late and I'm watching the video of the announcement now. This is ridiculously amazing. More than I wanted and then some.

Now I just have to freeze myself until June.

 

[shantyman]

Officially? Might as well tell me this SDK announcement wasn't necessary either because the homebrew community already has it covered.

I'm just saying with an official policy to support freeware apps, they really ought to re-evaluate their ringtone policy.

If you use a Mac is is officially supported through Garageband.

Will the new iPhone support EDGE and 3G, or will you have to choose between the two?

There is no "new" iPhone. Why has everyone started assuming when the 2.0 software comes out there will be a new phone?

 

[gigapower]

My office runs out Outlook. Am I going to need to beg my IT guy to get my work mail via iPhone once 2.0 is out? Or will I just be able to plug in the server info without him flipping any switches?

You'll need to have some sort of gateway out in your company's DMZ for the ActiveSync service, something like Microsoft's ISA to point back to the Exchange Server. Your email account will have to have the permissions for ActiveSync enabled. Also you'll need to be running the right version of Exchange, 2003 SP2 or 2007. So to sum it up, you'll need to beg.

 

[border]

There is no "new" iPhone. Why has everyone started assuming when the 2.0 software comes out there will be a new phone?

The 3G hype has kind of reached a point of hype where Apple is going to have to deny it if it isn't happening (otherwise face major disappointment after their next showing). Not to mention that false rumors will cut into sales of current iPhones (which I believe are way below their target).....so it's in their interest to dispel rumors. They haven't, so I'm assuming that there's a good deal of truth to all the chatter.

 

[Stoney Mason]

I went ahead and jailbroke my phone finally but I'm new to all this. What's a good site to help me know what exactly is going on?

 

[MadFuzzy]

For anyone who's interested, the beta of BBC iPlayer for iPhone/iPod Touch has started today.

It's streaming only and a lot of the content isn't available for playback at the moment (the first thing that I could find that worked was an episode of Panorama) but I imagine it'll increase in the next few days as they add more shows to the system.

 

[kaching]

What part of their current ringtone policy would they have to re-evaluate? You can buy ringtones via the iTunes Store if you want to or create as many as you want on your own for free. (You can even use Garageband to make 'em and put them directly into iTunes)

It was a light jab at Apple policy, not the iPhone. Shouldn't have to do anything other than the straightforward mechanism they provided in iTunes for purchased ringtones. Procedure should be the same for free ringtones as it is for purchased ringtones. Kinda like downloading free apps vs. purchased apps will be. Capiche?

 

[Kung Fu Jedi]

The 3G hype has kind of reached a point of hype where Apple is going to have to deny it if it isn't happening (otherwise face major disappointment after their next showing). Not to mention that false rumors will cut into sales of current iPhones (which I believe are way below their target).....so it's in their interest to dispel rumors. They haven't, so I'm assuming that there's a good deal of truth to all the chatter.

Apple (read Jobs) has already said a 3G iPhone is in the works, but hasn't said when it's coming. Most are just guessing that it'll be around June as it's unlike Apple to let their product line go a full year without a refresh.

And lets face it, most consumers don't give a shit about 3G because they don't have any idea what it is. The rumors aren't cutting into iPhone sales by very much at all. It's just tech geeks like us that care. According to their financials meeting from a few days ago, Apple is still on track to sell 10 million phones by the end of the year. And once the apps start hitting in June, I'll bet sales will be brisk anyway.

 

[Enzom21]

I went ahead and jailbroke my phone finally but I'm new to all this. What's a good site to help me know what exactly is going on?

http://modmyifone.com

 

[shantyman]

The 3G hype has kind of reached a point of hype where Apple is going to have to deny it if it isn't happening (otherwise face major disappointment after their next showing). Not to mention that false rumors will cut into sales of current iPhones (which I believe are way below their target).....so it's in their interest to dispel rumors. They haven't, so I'm assuming that there's a good deal of truth to all the chatter.

Dude, there is not other chatter other than you and others in this thread. A 3G iPhone is coming, but no one knows when.

 

[DaCocoBrova]

Anyone thinking of going w/ the AT&T unlimted plan for $99 (+$20 data fee). I am, although I'm assuming unlimited test messaging will be an extra fee, pushing the bill to around $150 a month vs/ the $70 I pay now.

 

[bionic77]

Anyone thinking of going w/ the AT&T unlimted plan for $99 (+$20 data fee). I am, although I'm assuming unlimited test messaging will be an extra fee, pushing the bill to around $150 a month vs/ the $70 I pay now.

Does the unlimited calling plan extend to people on your family plan?

I doubt that AT&T is dumb enough to allow that, but if they are dumb enough I might consider getting it with a few family members.

 

[Duane Cunningham]

Man. Every time I look at my iPhone, I just want to play the space shooter they showed yesterday. And Spore and SMB. Wow. I had absolutely no idea it would ever be a gaming platform at all. I can't wait.

I hope they hurry up and get it on the street in Japan, too. Maybe Konami, Capcom and/or Square will get in on the action. After all, they're all making mobile games over there already.

 

[alba]

Same here, i can't wait for it as a gaming platform, i love mine

 

[Souldriver]

Not sure if this is relevant or not mentioned yet, but...

Belgium will get the iPhone without simlock and with 3G, and video voicemail will be possible (I think this is possible in the US anyway) in may.
Still "unconfirmed" but from a "good source".

 

[DaCocoBrova]

You mean 'visual voicemail'.

 

[Kung Fu Jedi]

Not sure if this is relevant or not mentioned yet, but...

Belgium will get the iPhone without simlock and with 3G, and video voicemail will be possible (I think this is possible in the US anyway) in may.
Still "unconfirmed" but from a "good source".

I guarantee you that Belgium will not get a 3G iPhone before the U.S. So until it's announced here, it's not going to happen anywhere else either.

 

[livestOne]

Quick question is there a way to highlight spoilers on gaf using the iPhone

 

[Pikmindictator]

Not sure if this is relevant or not mentioned yet, but...

Belgium will get the iPhone without simlock and with 3G, and video voicemail will be possible (I think this is possible in the US anyway) in may.
Still "unconfirmed" but from a "good source".

Awesome if true. I don't live in Belgium but I live close to the Belgian border(half an hour drive).

 

[Souldriver]

You mean 'visual voicemail'.

Yes, whatever.

I guarantee you that Belgium will not get a 3G iPhone before the U.S. So until it's announced here, it's not going to happen anywhere else either.

I don't think either. But is there -at this point- an unlocked iPhone on the market? Maybe if Belgium is the first country to get an iphone without simlock, maybe also the first with 3G?

Just taking a guess here. Saw the news posted on a site and thought I'd post it here.

 

[Kung Fu Jedi]

Yes, whatever.


I don't think either. But is there -at this point- an unlocked iPhone on the market? Maybe if Belgium is the first country to get an iphone without simlock, maybe also the first with 3G?

Just taking a guess here. Saw the news posted on a site and thought I'd post it here.

First, big difference between "Visual Voicemail" and "Video Voicemail"

And if you saw Job's response to a blogger who asked him yesterday about having an unlocking app on the new App Store, you'd probably think that Apple will never sell an unlocked version. It's not really in their best interest to do so when cultivating relationships with cell companies. Allowing them to be unlocked through a grey market is probably about as good as it's going to get.

And 3G is coming. Of that there is no doubt. Just a question of when.

 

[border]

Apple is still on track to sell 10 million phones by the end of the year.

Their goal was 10 million phones in the product's first year. The iPhone's anniversary is in June. Last I heard, they were not going to make that. I assume that's still the case since they seem to have now moved the goalposts and the goal has become "10 million sold in 2008".

Dude, there is not other chatter other than you and others in this thread.

So the people in this thread just made it all up? That's funny, seeing as how a Google search for "3G iphone" yields a ton of relevant results beyond NeoGAF.

 

[Souldriver]

First, big difference between "Visual Voicemail" and "Video Voicemail"

And if you saw Job's response to a blogger who asked him yesterday about having an unlocking app on the new App Store, you'd probably think that Apple will never sell an unlocked version. It's not really in their best interest to do so when cultivating relationships with cell companies. Allowing them to be unlocked through a grey market is probably about as good as it's going to get.

And 3G is coming. Of that there is no doubt. Just a question of when.

Well, if there never will be non-simlocked version of the iPhone, there will be quite a few markets Apple won't ever be able/allowed to release their phone. Tying is within the grey zone of European legislation as it is.

 

[Kung Fu Jedi]

Their goal was 10 million phones in the product's first year. The iPhone's anniversary is in June. Last I heard, they were not going to make that. I assume that's still the case since they seem to have now moved the goalposts and the goal has become "10 million sold in 2008".

I've never seen the goal as 10 million in a year. I've always seen it quoted as 10 million by the end of 2008. In fact last year, before it's release, they estimated "10 million by the end of next year". Meaning 2008.

Here's a link to a page from last March stating the same thing. Before the iPhone even went on sale.

http://macdailynews.com/index.php/weblog/comments/12802/