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So, a friend gave me his old original iPhone when he found another one that was...er...less damaged (he works at a phone store, got this one for $30).

It's cracked as hell, but it still works perfectly :lol

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I take it every single game is going to run like crap on it, but oh well. Still better than my samsung gravity :lol
 
Jonny The Pie King said:
So, a friend gave me his old original iPhone when he found another one that was...er...less damaged (he works at a phone store, got this one for $30).

It's cracked as hell, but it still works perfectly :lol

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I take it every single game is going to run like crap on it, but oh well. Still better than my samsung gravity :lol

you can get it fixed for some bugs or even try to fix it yourself...anything would be better then running around with a fucked up phone like this ;)
 
Costanza said:
I think I still have that bootloader that's missing if you didn't already find another link.


Found it. No idea why this is so painful. I have an ATT account. I bought the phone. I'm paying for cell and text, as well as wife's 3G iphone dataplan, text and cell - that's all this would be used for. Irony is that I have a Touch, this 1st gen iPhone and a 3Gs.

ATT should come over here and make me a sandwich.
 
Manics said:
Facebook app developer lashes out at Apple's approval process:

http://tinyurl.com/ngc879

http://joehewitt.com/post/innocent-until-proven-guilty/


Cry more, dude. Everyone knows what the submission process is like before they buy their license to develop. Either that, or their an idiot. Not Apple's fault either way.


RubxQub said:
Dude doesn't get the big picture and is just flailing because his baby isn't on the market yet.

Kudos to him for loving his work enough to get upset about this, but he needs to understand why you can't just let anyone and everyone upload anything to the app store.

Pretty much.


Manics said:
They do take too damn long though. He's got some valid points. Maybe there should be a "fast track" for apps that have already been approved and are being updated for new functionality / bug fixes?


Perception often doesn't equal reality.

From Apple's testimony to the FCC:

Apple Inc. said:
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We created an approval process that reviews every application submitted to Apple for the App Store in order to protect consumer privacy, safeguard children from inappropriate content, and avoid applications that degrade the core experience of the iPhone. Some types of content such as pornography are rejected outright from the App Store, while others such as graphic combat scenes in action games may be approved but with an appropriate age rating. Most rejections are based on bugs found in the applications. When there is an issue, we try to provide the developer with helpful feedback so they can modify the application in order for us to approve it. 95% of applications are approved within 14 days of their submission.

We’re covering new ground and doing things that had never been done before. Many of the issues we face are difficult and new, and while we may make occasional mistakes, we try to learn from them and continually improve.

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In a little more than a year, the App Store has grown to become the world’s largest wireless applications store, with over 65,000 applications. We’ve rejected applications for a variety of reasons. Most rejections are based on the application containing quality issues or software bugs, while other rejections involve protecting consumer privacy, safeguarding children from inappropriate content, and avoiding applications that degrade the core experience of the iPhone. Given the volume and variety of technical issues, most of the review process is consumed with quality issues and software bugs, and providing feedback to developers so they can fix applications. Applications that are fixed and resubmitted are approved.

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Apple developed a comprehensive review process that looks at every iPhone application that is submitted to Apple. Applications and marketing text are submitted through a web interface. Submitted applications undergo a rigorous review process that tests for vulnerabilities such as software bugs, instability on the iPhone platform, and the use of unauthorized protocols. Applications are also reviewed to try to prevent privacy issues, safeguard children from exposure to inappropriate content, and avoid applications that degrade the core experience of the iPhone. There are more than 40 full-time trained reviewers, and at least two different reviewers study each application so that the review process is applied uniformly. Apple also established an App Store executive review board that determines procedures and sets policy for the review process, as well as reviews applications that are escalated to the board because they raise new or complex issues. The review board meets weekly and is comprised of senior management with responsibilities for the App Store. 95% of applications are approved within 14 days of being submitted.

If we find that an application has a problem, for example, a software bug that crashes the application, we send the developer a note describing the reason why the application will not be approved as submitted. In many cases we are able to provide specific guidance about how the developer can fix the application. We also let them know they can contact the app review team or technical support, or they can write to us for further guidance.

Apple generally spends most of the review period making sure that the applications function properly, and working with developers to fix quality issues and software bugs in applications. We receive about 8,500 new applications and updates every week, and roughly 20% of them are not approved as originally submitted. In little more than a year, we have reviewed more than 200,000 applications and updates.

Source: http://www.apple.com/hotnews/apple-answers-fcc-questions/

95% approved within two weeks is a pretty damn good track record for timely approval. Especially considering the massive volume.

Compare it to the time spent to approve the comparatively much, much fewer apps released on the six other major gaming consoles/portables (which is covered by three huge corporations, not just one, so the work is spread around,) and it's even more impressive. Sure, there aren't as many mega-huge apps on iPhone as those other consoles, but nobody's dealing with volumes of 200,000+ approvals in a year at Microsoft, Nintendo, and Sony, either.
 
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Just upgraded to an iPhone 3GS 32GB today, my first smartphone. I'm looking for the "best" clear film protector to go on the front and back of the phone-- what does everyone here use? I'm seeing mixed reviews for InvisibleShield, but I don't see many other protectors that cover both front and back. Any suggestions?
 
here's a question - how do i get my apps backed up to my computer/etc without either redownloading them through the itunes or what?

i'll elaborate:

i used to have windows XP on this laptop. i've had an iphone since early july 2007 - first EDGE then my 3G. horray? horray. anyways.

i did a clean install of windows 7 this week. got itunes up and running, authorized it with my account, etc. i got my iphone to sync up, getting it to put all my contacts into windows contacts, etc. it made a nice backup of my iphone, etc. except the apps.


i go to the apps tab in the iphone thing in itunes, and it says if i want to sync the apps itll delete all the apps on my phone and sync it with those in my itunes library (zero there).


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so...what do i do? i used to have a bunch of different apps in the itunes library, and only synced some of them on my phone. now i did a fresh windows 7 install, and have zero apps in my itunes library, and it wants to wipe the apps off my iphone. help?
 
kkaabboomm said:
here's a question - how do i get my apps backed up to my computer/etc without either redownloading them through the itunes or what?

i'll elaborate:

i used to have windows XP on this laptop. i've had an iphone since early july 2007 - first EDGE then my 3G. horray? horray. anyways.

i did a clean install of windows 7 this week. got itunes up and running, authorized it with my account, etc. i got my iphone to sync up, getting it to put all my contacts into windows contacts, etc. it made a nice backup of my iphone, etc. except the apps.


i go to the apps tab in the iphone thing in itunes, and it says if i want to sync the apps itll delete all the apps on my phone and sync it with those in my itunes library (zero there).


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so...what do i do? i used to have a bunch of different apps in the itunes library, and only synced some of them on my phone. now i did a fresh windows 7 install, and have zero apps in my itunes library, and it wants to wipe the apps off my iphone. help?

I'm sure there was a way. I think I used to delete apps from my iTunes, and if my iPhone still had them, it would ask to sync back over.

Of course, that's a risky proposition for you, because if it doesn't work, poof, all gone, and you won't know until you click.

That said, have you tried connecting, but not syncing, then right clicking on the iphone and "transfer purchases"?
 
MomoPufflet said:
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Just upgraded to an iPhone 3GS 32GB today, my first smartphone. I'm looking for the "best" clear film protector to go on the front and back of the phone-- what does everyone here use? I'm seeing mixed reviews for InvisibleShield, but I don't see many other protectors that cover both front and back. Any suggestions?
You don't need a film for the screen. You're only going to make the screen duller and your touches a little bit more inaccurate.

The case debate will go on forever, and both sides are right depending on how you use your phone, but that screen will not scratch. You can run a key across it as hard as you can and there's a good chance nothing will happen. It's made from the same glass as nice watches.
 
MomoPufflet said:
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Just upgraded to an iPhone 3GS 32GB today, my first smartphone. I'm looking for the "best" clear film protector to go on the front and back of the phone-- what does everyone here use? I'm seeing mixed reviews for [URL="http://www.zagg.com/invisibleshield/apple-iphone-3g-cases-screen-protectors-covers-skins-shields.php"]InvisibleShield[/URL], but I don't see many other protectors that cover both front and back. Any suggestions?[/QUOTE]

you want BodyGuardz. trust me. ive been using it since the 2G and i absolutely love it and its lifetime warranty policy. the only thing is that the corners are tough to put on, but that can be said for every single back protector.

[QUOTE=Liu Kang Baking A Pie]You don't need a film for the screen. You're only going to make the screen duller and your touches a little bit more inaccurate.

The case debate will go on forever, and both sides are right depending on how you use your phone, but that screen will not scratch. You can run a key across it as hard as you can and there's a good chance nothing will happen. It's made from the same glass as nice watches.[/QUOTE]

any dullness or touch issues will not be noticed whatsoever. at the same brightness as a friends iphone, they look exactly the same.

and say what you want about the whole "key" thing, but i have seen screens with scratches. i have no idea how they got there because i do agree that its extremely scratchproof, but it can happen.
 
mrkgoo said:
I'm sure there was a way. I think I used to delete apps from my iTunes, and if my iPhone still had them, it would ask to sync back over.

Of course, that's a risky proposition for you, because if it doesn't work, poof, all gone, and you won't know until you click.

That said, have you tried connecting, but not syncing, then right clicking on the iphone and "transfer purchases"?

it at least got my itunes library full of those apps without having to download them again.

however, when i go to the apps tab, everything is still grayed out, and if i try to click 'sync apps' it pops up with a:

"are you sure you want to sync applications? all existing app's and their data on the iphone will be replaced with applications from this itunes library"

this would not be good, because it is saying the data for my apps will be gone, too, and i dont want to have to re-set up all my apps like facebook, aim, ap news, my hp mss app, pandora, now playing, espn, tapdefense, ishoot, espn, etc, etc, etc. theres a lot of saved app data i don't want to lose.

any thoughts now that the apps are in my itunes library via this handy 'transfer purchases' thing?
 
cynlix said:
that's just the for the front of the phone. he wants a full film cover.

Invisible Sheild is awesome. I took a key and went crazy to my phone all the time to show people, they were always amazed. I recommend it, don't see why people would complain but some people are never satisfied so whatever.
 
Liu Kang Baking A Pie said:
As someone that used two different screens over the course of a year: no.

did you have one of the matte or glare reducing screens?

as someone thats used bodyguardz for over 2 years and installed it for many other people, there is little to no difference. its possible im remembering the dullness just a little bit incorrectly, but inaccurate touching? no.
 
kkaabboomm said:
it at least got my itunes library full of those apps without having to download them again.

however, when i go to the apps tab, everything is still grayed out, and if i try to click 'sync apps' it pops up with a:

"are you sure you want to sync applications? all existing app's and their data on the iphone will be replaced with applications from this itunes library"

this would not be good, because it is saying the data for my apps will be gone, too, and i dont want to have to re-set up all my apps like facebook, aim, ap news, my hp mss app, pandora, now playing, espn, tapdefense, ishoot, espn, etc, etc, etc. theres a lot of saved app data i don't want to lose.

any thoughts now that the apps are in my itunes library via this handy 'transfer purchases' thing?
Hmm. I was thinking it shouldn't be asking as it already knows your iPhone. But then I read back. You a clean install on your computer. Your iPhone basically thinks it's a new computer with a new iTunes. Your account is setup, sure, but your iPhone with all it's apps was never registered to sync with that iTunes.

I don't really ever do clean installs. I normally just transfer my iTunes and everything as is and syncing just picks up from where it's left off.

I don't know what will happen if you click yes in your case. On the one hand it's a 'new' computer that you have set up from scratch, so it may just dump the stuff on your iPhone and sync again, thus losing your data. Or it might recognize the apps already installed and leave them alone.

Did it make a backup when you first plugged it in? Because that should have the app data. Still who knows maybe the app data isn't in it for your unique situation.
 
Liu Kang Baking A Pie said:
You don't need a film for the screen. You're only going to make the screen duller and your touches a little bit more inaccurate.

The case debate will go on forever, and both sides are right depending on how you use your phone, but that screen will not scratch. You can run a key across it as hard as you can and there's a good chance nothing will happen. It's made from the same glass as nice watches.

I respectfully disagree. The screen can scratch relatively easily. I used to have an invisible shield on my front, but I needed to take the entire thing off because my phone completely fried itself about a week after I got it from a Belkin power adapter. I exchanged it, of course, but couldn't get the shield back on in a way that didn't leave particles of some kind under it. So I just left it off the front. Less than a few days later, when it was in my pocket with nothing else, it scratched.

However, the scratch isn't noticeable unless I stare right at it. When it's on, you can't see it at all.

As for the guy looking for something, either an invisisble shield or a bodyguardz will do.
 
with the old iPhones, I would always put on the power crystal anti-glare screen to hide fingerprints but, with the 3GS, the oleophobic coating is so good that I don't bother with anything on the screen. fingerprints are much less noticeable and I prefer the sharpness of the screen without the slight antiglare haze.

And I always keep it in a pocket with no other keys or coins or sharp objects just in case
 
Liu Kang Baking A Pie said:
You don't need a film for the screen. You're only going to make the screen duller and your touches a little bit more inaccurate.

The case debate will go on forever, and both sides are right depending on how you use your phone, but that screen will not scratch. You can run a key across it as hard as you can and there's a good chance nothing will happen. It's made from the same glass as nice watches.


Yes and no. I have all 3 of my iPhones in front of me. My first gen iPhone was a monster and nothing ever - EVER scratched that screen. My iPhone 3G had some scratches on the screen within 6 months. My iPhone 3GS seems to be more in line with the original iPhone in terms of screen quality.
 
mrkgoo said:
Hmm. I was thinking it shouldn't be asking as it already knows your iPhone. But then I read back. You a clean install on your computer. Your iPhone basically thinks it's a new computer with a new iTunes. Your account is setup, sure, but your iPhone with all it's apps was never registered to sync with that iTunes.

I don't really ever do clean installs. I normally just transfer my iTunes and everything as is and syncing just picks up from where it's left off.

I don't know what will happen if you click yes in your case. On the one hand it's a 'new' computer that you have set up from scratch, so it may just dump the stuff on your iPhone and sync again, thus losing your data. Or it might recognize the apps already installed and leave them alone.

Did it make a backup when you first plugged it in? Because that should have the app data. Still who knows maybe the app data isn't in it for your unique situation.

right...thats the issue. it was synced up to a 'different' itunes library...my windows XP one. since i installed windows 7, i had to reinstall the itunes, and thus a 'new' library - that wasn't an issue with music and movies and photos - i had those all set to organize manually. but apps don't have that option, and thus the issue.

it made a backup of everything, so if i click the sync apps checkbox, and something goes awry, it *should* be recoverable, but thats a bitch. the apps are in my library. the apps are on my phone. the data is on my phone - just let me sync it up to my library and be happy!
 
kkaabboomm said:
right...thats the issue. it was synced up to a 'different' itunes library...my windows XP one. since i installed windows 7, i had to reinstall the itunes, and thus a 'new' library - that wasn't an issue with music and movies and photos - i had those all set to organize manually. but apps don't have that option, and thus the issue.

it made a backup of everything, so if i click the sync apps checkbox, and something goes awry, it *should* be recoverable, but thats a bitch. the apps are in my library. the apps are on my phone. the data is on my phone - just let me sync it up to my library and be happy!


Yeah, it's not idea. They need to make the backups accessible - but I guess it makes it a little easy to just edit and mess up the phone.

Just a solution to send a backup to a visible file would suffice.

BUt anyway, as I posted above, someone took the plunge and it synced the data anyway. I'm not sure you have many options.

Apple would have you just not do clean installs, or atlas transfer over your old iTunes rather than try to start from fresh and set it up again.
 
bought a used 3G two weeks ago for $75, the vibrate button was missing, now im buying a 2nd 3G for $150, which means I'll have a 3G and a 2G for sale
 
MomoPufflet said:
Just upgraded to an iPhone 3GS 32GB today, my first smartphone. I'm looking for the "best" clear film protector to go on the front and back of the phone-- what does everyone here use? I'm seeing mixed reviews for InvisibleShield, but I don't see many other protectors that cover both front and back. Any suggestions?

Wait, what mixed reviews? I ordered one and I'm going to pick it up later today, everywhere I go people kept praising it. I've seen some videos, and read some reviews. I bought the full shield btw (back and front).

I don't care if the new screen is even more scratch resistant, I won't risk it.
 
Flek said:
you can get it fixed for some bugs or even try to fix it yourself...anything would be better then running around with a fucked up phone like this ;)

Nonsense!

Where and estimate? :lol

I'm pretty ok with it, then again, I just got it.
 
Jinfash said:
Wait, what mixed reviews? I ordered one and I'm going to pick it up later today, everywhere I go people kept praising it. I've seen some videos, and read some reviews. I bought the full shield btw (back and front).

I don't care if the new screen is even more scratch resistant, I won't risk it.

i bought the front shield last week, havent put it on yet as the instructions say to let it dry 12 hours before using the phone, which in my current lifestyle is a near impossibility
 
GodfatherX said:
i bought the front shield last week, havent put it on yet as the instructions say to let it dry 12 hours before using the phone, which in my current lifestyle is a near impossibility

Yeah, wtf is up with that? 12 - 24 hours to let the "top military secret technology" glue dry out. In my head I imagined getting shot at and being able to deflect bullets with my iPhone! :lol
 
GodfatherX said:
i bought the front shield last week, havent put it on yet as the instructions say to let it dry 12 hours before using the phone, which in my current lifestyle is a near impossibility

no, you MUST let it dry. take the sim card out ahead of time and use a different phone. LET IT DRY. i would even let it dry for longer. you have no idea how sensitive those corners are. make sure you do your best to get them down, use a hairdryer.

i still highly recommend BodyGuardz if you still have a choice. the protection area is better if i remember correctly. ilounge.com had a good review comparing the top 3 protectors.
 
I would do it at night and let it dry while you sleep at least.

I've used the Invisible Shield on my Instinct and Curve. Both of the I let dry for a few minutes. Doesn't natter so much for the Curve, but it was in my pocket. With the Instinct, which is a touchscreen phone, the shield remained flat and in place despite me barely waiting 20 minutes.

I can definitely see any part where it wraps needing some time to dry, I'd do it before you sleep and let it dry for the night.
 
indeed, the front shield is ok pretty quickly, although there will still be air bubbles. the back piece however, with pieces that wrap around the edges and the corner are seriously delicate. after putting it on and seeing how much work goes into it, you will want to let it dry because you'll realize u dont want to do it again :lol
 
I don't have any invisicrap or rubber-shit on my iphone.

Frankly if a device that is meant to be subject to the wear cellphones suffer requires such protection schemes it just means it's either poorly designed or poorly manufactured or both.
 
Don't listen to no case no screen GAF. This thread alone has plenty of examples that the phone isn't indestructible. Which is of course true for every other cellphone as well.
 
Bitmap Frogs said:
I don't have any invisicrap or rubber-shit on my iphone.

Frankly if a device that is meant to be subject to the wear cellphones suffer requires such protection schemes it just means it's either poorly designed or poorly manufactured or both.
YES.
 
Vyer said:
Don't listen to no case no screen GAF. This thread alone has plenty of examples that the phone isn't indestructible. Which is of course true for every other cellphone as well.

Well, I guess I can see the point if you need to resell it in prime condition, but I generally think that devices like this are designed to be used. Save a nasty gouge into the glass, a few scratches are charming battlescars. I used to get really uptight about this kind of thing on all my crap, still do for new stuff, but once I have them for a while, feels good not to stress too much about it.

The only protection I use is a sock I sewed out of the microcloth that came supplied with the iMac. I just love holding the iPhone as a sleek device - with all the oil fingerprints on it, it's still sexier than someone else's red, ribbed, rubber iPhone.
 
I've carried my iPhone in my pocket - no case, no screen cover - for the past year and don't have a single scratch on the glass. I haven't made an effort to baby the thing, either. The plastic has tons of wear, but the glass is pristine.
 
Shrug, it's been over a year with my 3g.

Screen has some minor scratching (as in, I need to wipe it clean in order to notice it), the back is very scratched (but the logo and text are clear as day one, I suspect they are somehow below the plastic) and the metal rim is so scratched it doesn't look scratched anymore (if you know what I mean).

Works like a charm and yet it has suffered 4 or 5 five small falls (one, one and a half feet).

As it's been said unless you are looking forward to selling it "in prime condition" or are absolutely anal about keeping your fruit-branded gadgets shiny screw the snake-oil vendors and their cases. Not to mention most cases are ugly as a sin and look totally out-of-place on a device like a cellphone.
 
Liu Kang Baking A Pie said:

NO

wanting to keep your items in pristine condition does not mean there is anything wrong with either the user or the device. without a case the back plastic gets extremely scratched up. the front, while nice, IS scratchable, as said by posters in here. my bodyguardz covered iphone is just as sexy as anybody's naked iphone, if not more so.

its all based on user preference. dont tell me im wrong for wanting to keep my iphone scratch free.
 
Ashhong said:
NO

wanting to keep your items in pristine condition does not mean there is anything wrong with either the user or the device. without a case the back plastic gets extremely scratched up. the front, while nice, IS scratchable, as said by posters in here. my bodyguardz covered iphone is just as sexy as anybody's naked iphone, if not more so.

its all based on user preference. dont tell me im wrong for wanting to keep my iphone scratch free.
You need a protective case for your emotions.
 
Ashhong said:
NOwanting to keep your items in pristine condition does not mean there is anything wrong with either the user or the device.

Yeah, I can't wait until Ford ships the new iCar that requires to be towed on top of a truck in order to protect it from wear and tear.
 
You lose the benefit of the oleophobic screen if you put a protector on, right?

that would suck. I have to wipe it off after every call and I'm not about to carry around a cleaning cloth. One swipe on your jeans is better than sitting there rubbing it down in public and looking OCD

I keep mine naked and just make sure not to put it my pocket with keys, change, or cards. The back has about one hairline scratch and the front is perfect (I've had it since the 3GS launch.)
 
Fyodor Dostoevsky said:
You lose the benefit of the oleophobic screen if you put a protector on, right?

that would suck. I have to wipe it off after every call and I'm not about to carry around a cleaning cloth. One swipe on your jeans is better than sitting there rubbing it down in public and looking OCD

I keep mine naked and just make sure not to put it my pocket with keys, change, or cards. The back has about one hairline scratch and the front is perfect (I've had it since the 3GS launch.)

It would truly be magical if the coating on the glass somehow permeated and worked through a piece of 10¢ plastic.
 
Liu Kang Baking A Pie said:
You need a protective case for your emotions.

not sure where this is coming from. i thought that was a pretty unemotional response.

Bitmap Frogs said:
Yeah, I can't wait until Ford ships the new iCar that requires to be towed on top of a truck in order to protect it from wear and tear.

wat the hell are you even trying to say?
 
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