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aparisi2274 said:
Obviously your iphone is unlocked? How is that chat program? is it good?
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It works ok, some bugs, the new beta should be out any day im really looking forward to some of the new stuff they added

http://blog.twenty08.com/2007/09/07/mobilechat-well-on-its-way/#more-84

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Just wanted to write a quick note regarding MobileChat’s development. While I’m currently not on the development team for this project, Shaun’s been doing a great job adding features and keeping everything going smoothly. On top of that, we now have Anthony working on the project as well. They’ve been doing an awesome job and as a result, new versions of MobileChat are on their way very shortly with some cool new features:

Full Buddy Profiles
Better Buddy List Views
Vibrating Notifications
Springboard Message Notifications
Plenty of Bug Fixes
New Icon (Yes, yes…we’re sorry about the 1/3rd of a Duck)
And much more!

Look out for the new update on Installer.app, you should see it within the next few days.

-Sav
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Kung Fu Jedi said:
Calm down skippy. If you have read the past few pages of this thread, you'll find there are several ways to get your own ringtones onto the iPhone. Not a problem at all. I currently am using several ringtones that I created myself from songs in my library that had nothing to do with music purchased from iTunes.
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I know all about MakeiPhoneRingTones and iToner. I don't want to have to go through the back door to get sound clips on my phone, I want to do it the "right" way through Apple. I've read that iToner has problems with syncing in iTunes - ie, you put your MP3s on there, but when you sync to iTunes it kinda "wipes" the iPhone, and it "covers up" your ring tones. They're still on the phone, but the phone doesn't know it. So you have to reload the ring tones each time you sync with iTunes, and the guys that make it aren't even sure if it replaces the songs already there or if it makes duplicates. I don't exactly want to fill up my phone with ghost files I can't delete.

Otherwise, yeah, I'd be all over iToner. But as of yet these 3rd party apps have glitches and problems, and to get say, my brother calling me a meat head as his ring tone, I shouldn't have to go through a 3rd party to do it.

So basically I'm way paranoid of clogging up my iPhone with "dead" ring tones that I can't use. If there's a new version of iToner that fixes that problem, though, I'm all over it. I was at their forum last night and the guys didn't seem to know why ghost files were appearing, but perhaps that thread was outdated and the 1.1 update fixed it?
 
WordAssassin said:
I know all about MakeiPhoneRingTones and iToner. I don't want to have to go through the back door to get sound clips on my phone, I want to do it the "right" way through Apple. I've read that iToner has problems with syncing in iTunes - ie, you put your MP3s on there, but when you sync to iTunes it kinda "wipes" the iPhone, and it "covers up" your ring tones. They're still on the phone, but the phone doesn't know it. So you have to reload the ring tones each time you sync with iTunes, and the guys that make it aren't even sure if it replaces the songs already there or if it makes duplicates. I don't exactly want to fill up my phone with ghost files I can't delete.

Otherwise, yeah, I'd be all over iToner. But as of yet these 3rd party apps have glitches and problems, and to get say, my brother calling me a meat head as his ring tone, I shouldn't have to go through a 3rd party to do it.

So basically I'm way paranoid of clogging up my iPhone with "dead" ring tones that I can't use. If there's a new version of iToner that fixes that problem, though, I'm all over it. I was at their forum last night and the guys didn't seem to know why ghost files were appearing, but perhaps that thread was outdated and the 1.1 update fixed it?
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All that was indeed fixed in the 1.1 update, and iToner continued to work just fine after Apple released the 7.4.1 update to shut down the backdoor, file renaming, hack that was being used to get the ringtones on there before.
 
Well then paint my ass and call me Shirly!

I still think Apple should let you do it in iTunes but if this is how it has to be for now, then whatever.

Also, thanks for the camera answer. I don't care that much either it was just idle curiosity. Kinda like my curiosity about why you can't make voice recordings other than your voice mail greeting, but I suspect that has to do with preventing people from stealing music.
 
ok I found the first thing I DO NOT like about the AT&T service...

My friend send me a video from his celphone and sent it to me on the iphone... obviously I cant view it right on the phone itself, so my txt message was that a friend sent me a multimedia message and to go to

www.viewmymessage.com and enter the following login and password, which I did, and every time I do it, I get an error. and when I can get to the message itself, it never plays...

THAT SUCKS!!!
 
WordAssassin said:
I know all about MakeiPhoneRingTones and iToner. I don't want to have to go through the back door to get sound clips on my phone, I want to do it the "right" way through Apple.
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Really not gonna happen. Ever. Not when you've got the record companies and RIAA looking over Apple's shoulders. None of these methods to get ringtones on the phone are all that "back door" now that they show up in a specific Ringtones area in your library. I didn't use MakeiPhoneRingTones or iToner and my ringtones (made just using Garageband and iTunes) work great.

I've read that iToner has problems with syncing in iTunes - ie, you put your MP3s on there, but when you sync to iTunes it kinda "wipes" the iPhone, and it "covers up" your ring tones. They're still on the phone, but the phone doesn't know it. So you have to reload the ring tones each time you sync with iTunes, and the guys that make it aren't even sure if it replaces the songs already there or if it makes duplicates. I don't exactly want to fill up my phone with ghost files I can't delete.
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That happened with iToner and iTunes 7.4/7.4.1, but iToner's been updated and besides... it doesn't wipe them, you just have to have them as m4a files. I don't have any ghost files in my iTunes library, either.

Otherwise, yeah, I'd be all over iToner. But as of yet these 3rd party apps have glitches and problems, and to get say, my brother calling me a meat head as his ring tone, I shouldn't have to go through a 3rd party to do it.
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You don't. And while modding your iPhone DOES introduce glitches and problems (in my experience, at least), adding ringtones doesn't require you to mod the phone at all and is actually very easy and non-glitchy.
 
WordAssassin said:
Well then paint my ass and call me Shirly!

I still think Apple should let you do it in iTunes but if this is how it has to be for now, then whatever.

Also, thanks for the camera answer. I don't care that much either it was just idle curiosity. Kinda like my curiosity about why you can't make voice recordings other than your voice mail greeting, but I suspect that has to do with preventing people from stealing music.
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There are also rumors of a voice recording app coming for the iPhone as well. There is already a hacked one out there, and developers poking around in the iPhone code in iTunes have found some references to voice recording. Still a rumor at this point, and it's hard to say when or if it would ever come.
 
aparisi2274 said:
ok I found the first thing I DO NOT like about the AT&T service...

My friend send me a video from his celphone and sent it to me on the iphone... obviously I cant view it right on the phone itself, so my txt message was that a friend sent me a multimedia message and to go to

www.viewmymessage.com and enter the following login and password, which I did, and every time I do it, I get an error. and when I can get to the message itself, it never plays...

THAT SUCKS!!!
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No MMS on the iPhone.
 
What phones out there actually let you add MP3s as ringtones through the phone's software?

I used to have the Audiovox SMT5600 and I could do it on there. Was that because it ran on Windows Mobile, and any Windows Mobile phone can do this? I don't understand why any phones provided by the US carriers allow users to upload their own ringtones as every provider has their own pay-service for ringtones.
 
Stan The Caddy said:
It works ok, some bugs, the new beta should be out any day im really looking forward to some of the new stuff they added

http://blog.twenty08.com/2007/09/07/mobilechat-well-on-its-way/#more-84

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Just posted in the comments section

5 Written by: Shaun
Posted on: September 11, 2007 at 3:19 pm
Tonight or tomorrow guys, i promise.. For the most part we’re skipping 1.1 and essentially going to have a mix of features we planned for 1.2 and 2.0 as well as everything we planned for 1.1
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can't wait
 
SuperPac said:
That and no IM are the phone's two biggest weaknesses. I dunno how they can do the Wifi iTunes Store and *not* work on some way to get MMS and IM going.
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MMS is not a big deal to me personally, I prefer to email the pictures anyway. I would love for them to add video through the camera, recording and receiving.
 
aparisi2274 said:
Well then lets force Apple to get on it ASAP!!!!!
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Tell me about it. I hate having to get on the net just to see a picture text, only to find out it's a worthless picture of my ex girlfriend's cats.....
 
Guys! New Summerboard update out, complete with preference options like the ability to turn off the wallpaper.

Man, the homebrew community is working harder than Apple is to make the iPhone a more complete product.....kind of a shame if you ask me.
 
Bungaloo0O said:
Guys! New Summerboard update out, complete with preference options like the ability to turn off the wallpaper.

Man, the homebrew community is working harder than Apple is to make the iPhone a more complete product.....kind of a shame if you ask me.
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Not a shame at all. It's just natural. Look at what's going on for the PSP as well. Similar situations. Apple is confined by a corporate plan and have to carefully test updates, plan the best roll out procedures, and so on. The Hackers just throw shit out there.
 
Kung Fu Jedi said:
Not a shame at all. It's just natural. Look at what's going on for the PSP as well. Similar situations. Apple is confined by a corporate plan and have to carefully test updates, plan the best roll out procedures, and so on. The Hackers just throw shit out there.
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I understand the corporate approach, but i can't help to feel that Apple is holding back updates to keep stringing us along.

It's akin that girl who refused to put out to drive men crazy over her....
 
Bungaloo0O said:
I understand the corporate approach, but i can't help to feel that Apple is holding back updates to keep stringing us along.

It's akin that girl who refused to put out to drive men crazy over her....
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I guess the one thing to be happy about is that when they *do* "put out," the features'll have been (mostly) bug tested and solid. Unlike with third-party apps, where there's really no guarantee it'll be stable or introduce other weirdness to your phone.
 
SuperPac said:
I guess the one thing to be happy about is that when they *do* "put out," the features'll have been (mostly) bug tested and solid. Unlike with third-party apps, where there's really no guarantee it'll be stable or introduce other weirdness to your phone.
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Yeah but who knows WHEN that will be.....

EDIT: Hopefully it will be SOONER rather than Later!!!!
 
Bungaloo0O said:
I understand the corporate approach, but i can't help to feel that Apple is holding back updates to keep stringing us along.

It's akin that girl who refused to put out to drive men crazy over her....
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I disagree. The phone has been out a little over two months, and we're about to get the first big update. It may be a feature you're not interested in, but it's still a fairly significant update.

I'm sure we'd all love to get a massive update to our iPhones that activates the camera for video, adds iChat, fires up MMS services, and provides free, on demand porn, but it's not going to happen that way.

Consider this, we've already had two minor updates in those two months and we're on the verge of a large one in the next few weeks. On top of that, Apple has launched the ringtone service, which like it or don't, is still fairly significant as well. How many other cell phone companies have provided updates like that in such a short fashion? I know the LG phone I dumped to get the iPhone had two updates over the three years I owned it.
 
Kung Fu Jedi said:
I disagree. The phone has been out a little over two months, and we're about to get the first big update. It may be a feature you're not interested in, but it's still a fairly significant update.

I'm sure we'd all love to get a massive update to our iPhones that activates the camera for video, adds iChat, fires up MMS services, and provides free, on demand porn, but it's not going to happen that way.

Consider this, we've already had two minor updates in those two months and we're on the verge of a large one in the next few weeks. On top of that, Apple has launched the ringtone service, which like it or don't, is still fairly significant as well. How many other cell phone companies have provided updates like that in such a short fashion? I know the LG phone I dumped to get the iPhone had two updates over the three years I owned it.
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Whats the big update we are supposed to get soon?
 
SuperPac said:
I guess the one thing to be happy about is that when they *do* "put out," the features'll have been (mostly) bug tested and solid. Unlike with third-party apps, where there's really no guarantee it'll be stable or introduce other weirdness to your phone.
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Having loaded up a Windows Mobile phone with garbage apps and watched the phone stability stumble, I can kind of relate to Apple's approach. They want the phone to be stable first and foremost.

I'm not using any hacked apps myself, because the phone does everything I need on a daily basis as is. Everything else is gravy.
 
Kung Fu Jedi said:
I disagree. The phone has been out a little over two months, and we're about to get the first big update. It may be a feature you're not interested in, but it's still a fairly significant update.

I'm sure we'd all love to get a massive update to our iPhones that activates the camera for video, adds iChat, fires up MMS services, and provides free, on demand porn, but it's not going to happen that way.

Consider this, we've already had two minor updates in those two months and we're on the verge of a large one in the next few weeks. On top of that, Apple has launched the ringtone service, which like it or don't, is still fairly significant as well. How many other cell phone companies have provided updates like that in such a short fashion? I know the LG phone I dumped to get the iPhone had two updates over the three years I owned it.
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My "technologically inferior" and less expensive Razr had more standard features than my iPhone. All i ask is that for $500(my cost) my phone at least meets the technical bar that the even the low-end cellphones have made the standard. It seems that any unique feature the iPhone currently sports is OS centric, but in terms of feature standards it falls short.

I'm sure AT&T isn't looking forward to an iChat function if they plan on gouging consumers with text messaging surcharges, and porn is always free on my iphone; however these are auxiliary apps that have no bearing on helping the iPhone meet the bare minimum set of feature that have become the standard in the cellphone industry.
 
michaeld said:
Is this real?
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Yep just installed and it runs ok, not great. I'm loving all the new apps everyday on Installer. Seriously one of the coolest things on the phones. Installer is where it is at, if you don't have it I HIGHLY RECOMMEND IT.
 
Bungaloo0O said:
My "technologically inferior" and less expensive Razr had more standard features than my iPhone. All i ask is that for $500(my cost) my phone at least meets the technical bar that the even the low-end cellphones have made the standard. It seems that any unique feature the iPhone currently sports is OS centric, but in terms of feature standards it falls short.

I'm sure AT&T isn't looking forward to an iChat function if they plan on gouging consumers with text messaging surcharges, and porn is always free on my iphone; however these are auxiliary apps that have no bearing on helping the iPhone meet the bare minimum set of feature that have become the standard in the cellphone industry.
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What features other than video recording and MMS does this Razr have that the iPhone doesn't?

And having features actually work right counts to me. You're going to tell me seriously that the Browser on the Razr is as good as Safari is on the iPhone?
 
Tobor said:
What features other than video recording and MMS does this Razr have that the iPhone doesn't?

And having features actually work right counts to me. You're going to tell me seriously that the Browser on the Razr is as good as Safari is on the iPhone?
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Of course it doesn't, and neither did it's iPod and vide functions; however, like i said previously, those are OS centric apps.

I just find it odd that sucha revolutionary phone would me missing some of the most basic functions of a cell phone, that it can run Safari, Google Maps, play video/music and Youtube vides isn't supporting simple features like picture messaging and voice dialing for starters.

I love mu iPhone, bought it the second day of release, but it's embarrassing having to tell people i paid $500 for the phone but i can't receive their picture messages :lol
 
ant1532 said:
Yep just installed and it runs ok, not great. I'm loving all the new apps everyday on Installer. Seriously one of the coolest things on the phones. Installer is where it is at, if you don't have it I HIGHLY RECOMMEND IT.
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can installer brick the iphone? i'm kinda wary of installing any third party apps at this point. how safe of a bet is it?
 
michaeld said:
Is this real?
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It works, just not that 100% yet. Speed is a little choppy (80%) and sound is very choppy.

I agree with ant, Installer.app is a godsend. How they hacked that together I'm not sure but man they did a super serious good job on it. I would've imagined that we would still have to ftp into the phone to load apps but having a full featured package manager is beyond awesome.

Anyone know how to code these things? By know I mean how to get the infrastructure up and running. I tried last night to compile some source code but ran into all sorts of problems :\ I'd love to dig around and start programming some apps though and learn ObjectiveC also.
 
ant1532 said:
Yep just installed and it runs ok, not great. I'm loving all the new apps everyday on Installer. Seriously one of the coolest things on the phones. Installer is where it is at, if you don't have it I HIGHLY RECOMMEND IT.
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how are the controls? I would imagine they are between ass and garbage, but it still seems interesting.
 
Bungaloo0O said:
My "technologically inferior" and less expensive Razr had more standard features than my iPhone. All i ask is that for $500(my cost) my phone at least meets the technical bar that the even the low-end cellphones have made the standard. It seems that any unique feature the iPhone currently sports is OS centric, but in terms of feature standards it falls short.

I'm sure AT&T isn't looking forward to an iChat function if they plan on gouging consumers with text messaging surcharges, and porn is always free on my iphone; however these are auxiliary apps that have no bearing on helping the iPhone meet the bare minimum set of feature that have become the standard in the cellphone industry.
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Personally, I couldn't care less about MMS or Video for that matter. I knew the iPhone didn't have them when I purchased it, and didn't feel like I was shorted on anything in the least. For me, I'd rather send a message through e-mail, including photos, anyway. But to each his own.
 
Kung Fu Jedi said:
Personally, I couldn't care less about MMS or Video for that matter. I knew the iPhone didn't have them when I purchased it, and didn't feel like I was shorted on anything in the least. For me, I'd rather send a message through e-mail, including photos, anyway. But to each his own.
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Sending doesn't fix the problem of you receiving messages from other people. Not everyone has email on their phone. I'm still holding out for 3G, Voice Dial, real custom ringtones, and IM.
 
Marty Chinn said:
Sending doesn't fix the problem of you receiving messages from other people. Not everyone has email on their phone. I'm still holding out for 3G, Voice Dial, real custom ringtones, and IM.
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You can send an e-mail to anyone else's phone with pictures attached without MMS on the iPhone, but you're right receiving is another matter. Still not an issue for me. I still couldn't care less about the feature.

The other features you're waiting for are subjective. Yes, they'll be nice upgrades when/if they come to the iPhone. 3G would be great, but not at the expense of battery life. EDGE is actually pretty damn great most of the time. I don't miss Voice Dial at all, but I can understand why others would. My "Favorites" list works just fine for me. I'll concede that IM would be nice, and I expect that it's a likely upgrade in an update down the line.

Real custom ringtones are here. I've put three on my phone today, without paying a dime. I'm not sure how much more "real" you want them.
 
Marty Chinn said:
Sending doesn't fix the problem of you receiving messages from other people. Not everyone has email on their phone. I'm still holding out for 3G, Voice Dial, real custom ringtones, and IM.
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That's there backwards problem. If they want to live in 2005, that's their damage.

In all seriousness, I just don't care. The couple of times someone tried to send me an MMS, I texted them back to email it or die. Still kidding.
 
yeah i'm really interested in getting an iphone because i don't have an ipod and a decent phone, but i was wondering...

is there a way to get the iphone without the data plan? i have no need for the data plan due to constant wifi access and i'm already on AT&T...
 
Marty Chinn said:
Sending doesn't fix the problem of you receiving messages from other people. Not everyone has email on their phone. I'm still holding out for 3G, Voice Dial, real custom ringtones, and IM.
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what's a "real custom ringtone"? i've already created over 15 ringtones from existing songs i've had. you can do this on iphone.
 
arab said:
yeah i'm really interested in getting an iphone because i don't have an ipod and a decent phone, but i was wondering...

is there a way to get the iphone without the data plan? i have no need for the data plan due to constant wifi access and i'm already on AT&T...
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yea, i think you can opt out of the data plan. but the phone will become pretty useless after that.
 
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