I follow the benchmarks, 970 (and my 290x) is inadequate without major settings and FPS compromises.
Is 1440p gaming worth it?
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manny10032
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Hell Yes!!!!!! especially at 144hz or at 165hz
Louis Cyphre
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If you are going to invest in 1440 gaming or 4K is a 27" a big enough monitor? I would like to know from others what they think is the perfect size of screen.
blankempathy
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BS. For the most demanding games a mix of high/ultra settings is typically what I play at and my fps sits around 60 fps with dips here and there. G-sync helps with that though. The only real compromise I had to make was playing overwatch on medium settings simply so I could have my fps at 115-144hz, mostly closer to 144hz, in game.
I'm using a 970 with an Acer Predator gsync monitor and it's great. 60+ fps most games at ultra.
opticalmace
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I have a 27" 1440p monitor and personally I think a bit bigger would be nice. If it were 16:10 it would be fine, but at 16:9.... I dunno, a few extra inches would probably be about right.
If I were you I would go to a computer shop and check out some monitors, see for yourself what size you probably want.
Ivory Samoan
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Yes, so much yes.
I recommend Dell U monitors myself, so good for 1440p. 27" is the sweet spot for 1440p IMO.
I recommend Dell U monitors myself, so good for 1440p. 27" is the sweet spot for 1440p IMO.
Hidden One
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PS4 games lose some of it's image quality on a 1440p monitor.
johnnydrama
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Been using a 27" 1440p monitor for over three years, and the games look so much better than they do on my 1080p TV. IPS helps a lot too. Definitely worth it.
Aztechnology
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Ewww TN panels. Better to go with an IPS panel with Async then that. For Async you could go with an 480 instead, maybe trade out for 490 when you're able.
http://m.newegg.com/Product/index?itemnumber=N82E16824236466
$480 Async monitor but uses the same panel as the Acer XB270HU.
http://m.newegg.com/Product/index?itemnumber=N82E16824236466
$480 Async monitor but uses the same panel as the Acer XB270HU.
andrerobot
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I have a Dell UltraSharp series curved 34" 21:9 IPS screen at work and my Macbook also has an IPS screen, but frankly, I don't think the IPS tax is worth it. That's why I went with the TN 27" 1400p G-SYNC 140hz Dell monitor, I got for my new PC.
If someone wants to spend some money on an expensive monitor, I'd tell her or him to wait for HDR displays, cause they're coming out soon.
If someone wants to spend some money on an expensive monitor, I'd tell her or him to wait for HDR displays, cause they're coming out soon.
I think you're forgetting that not everyone only plays the 1% of PC games that wouldn't run 1440p 60fps+ at Ultra with a 970 or 980 gtx. There's other games that aren't Arkham Knight, Star Citizen, or Witcher 3.
Benchmarks don't BS, which is why I know DOOM and Overwatch both run at 60fps+ average at 1440p Ultra on a 970, or like nearly everything top played on Steam.
It does feel like we are conveniently excluding titles that don't fit the narrative. Some reader is going to buy into this, then be disappointed when Watch Dogs 2 doesn't run to expectation.
I find it surprising how many people invest so much into their computers and then use a crappy monitor. A monitor is the gateway to your computer. Everything you do is seen through it. Image quality and performance improve vastly with a higher quality monitor that is IPS or, if you prefer, VA.
I've been using the Acer XB270HU for over a year and it is just phenomenal! No backlight bleed, little IPS glow and the crispness that 1440p gives is just amazing compared to 1080p. 144Hz is a must for fast shooters but you will feel the benefits just browsing the web or on the desktop.
I don't see myself buying another monitor until OLED monitors come out. And they better have a high refresh rate or booooo.
TL
R Spring for the 27 IPS 1440p Gsync monitors. It's worth it!
I've been using the Acer XB270HU for over a year and it is just phenomenal! No backlight bleed, little IPS glow and the crispness that 1440p gives is just amazing compared to 1080p. 144Hz is a must for fast shooters but you will feel the benefits just browsing the web or on the desktop.
I don't see myself buying another monitor until OLED monitors come out. And they better have a high refresh rate or booooo.
TL
R Spring for the 27 IPS 1440p Gsync monitors. It's worth it!blankempathy
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Watch dogs 2 isn't out nor did I claim to be able to run all future games at high/mix of ultra either. High settings is just that. High settings. Most people know the difference between that and ultra/max. "bench marks don't lie"? Ok but apparently real life experience actually playing these games doesn't count?
It's a noticeable difference, but it doesn't set the world on fire. The real jump is to 2160. When gpus consistently, and i mean consistently run at least 60fps that's when to jump aboard.
Now, myself personally, I'm more so eagerly awaiting a quality OLED monitor that isn't ridiculously priced. That jump in PQ from OLED is the real deal. By nature they have basically instant response times as well, and of course perfect blacks. That is what I'm waiting for.
Hopefully the 20-32" JOLEDs due next year can deliver as for now LG seems to be content with their 55-77" TVs, and Sony just makes mastering displays until JOLED.
Now, myself personally, I'm more so eagerly awaiting a quality OLED monitor that isn't ridiculously priced. That jump in PQ from OLED is the real deal. By nature they have basically instant response times as well, and of course perfect blacks. That is what I'm waiting for.
Hopefully the 20-32" JOLEDs due next year can deliver as for now LG seems to be content with their 55-77" TVs, and Sony just makes mastering displays until JOLED.
Chiggs
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I agree with this. I do like 1440p at 60-80 FPS, but it does take a pretty good rig to do it, and you might just be better served waiting until 2160p can be done with a top end GPU. Right now, it's a bit sketchy, though the GTX 1080 is a step in the right direction.
I personally am a fan of multi-GPU systems because they allow you to really push the envelope, and 4k gaming is a reality for me right now in a number of games, but multi-GPU isn't exactly cheap (RX 480 seems to be an intriguing option for that, however).
BigTnaples
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No it's not.
PC gaming is a rather expansive set of games. Indeed, most PC games will run at 1440p 60fps.
Most games in the past 2 years? Nope. Most PC games in general? Yes.
Got to play around with this all last night, can confirm it was amazing.
3440x1440 is awesome.
Wouldnt a 4K monitor be pretty big at desktop monitor distances? Don't know what sizes they do but I'm assuming they'd need to be fairly large otherwise all your desktop icons/text would be tiny.
JackAubrey
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I recently bought a 1440p60 IPS monitor. Bought it for photography and other work purposes, but I do game on my PC.
I have a modest 660Ti Power Edition, but can play lots of games at 1080p60. In the week since I got the monitor I'm surprised how many games I can play at 1440p60 with just a few tweaks. I've been playing Project Cars at 1440p60 and Truck Simulator. I've found that I don't need much AA at 1440p, and backing that off gives me the power back over 1080p to claw back some frames.
Obviously it's hardly a power rig, but I've been pleasantly surprised how many games I can run at 1440p. But if I have to run at 1080p - it still looks better on this monitor than my old 1080p one. Looks so good I've even been doing some console gaming on it.
I have a modest 660Ti Power Edition, but can play lots of games at 1080p60. In the week since I got the monitor I'm surprised how many games I can play at 1440p60 with just a few tweaks. I've been playing Project Cars at 1440p60 and Truck Simulator. I've found that I don't need much AA at 1440p, and backing that off gives me the power back over 1080p to claw back some frames.
Obviously it's hardly a power rig, but I've been pleasantly surprised how many games I can run at 1440p. But if I have to run at 1080p - it still looks better on this monitor than my old 1080p one. Looks so good I've even been doing some console gaming on it.
So I'm going from my ancient, but incredible for its time, NEC20WMGX2 which is a 20.1 inch 16:10 1680x1050 display to an LG 34UC88-B - which is a 34inch 21:9 3440x1440 ultra-wide display. Hopefully it will arrive sometime this coming week. Got it on sale for only $725, figured I'd waited long enough to do a monitor upgrade.
I'm really hoping that my GTX970 can handle that bump. I only really play FFXIV, 4X games, and isometric RPGs on it like Pillars of Eternity and Shadowrun, so I assume it can. Though I am a bit worried about FFXIV.
I kept looking at the Acer Predator, but jumped on this since the price was right and I don't think G-sync really would matter much for the type of games that I play the most on my PC. It does have like 55-75hz Adaptive Sync, but I don't think I'd go AMD to take advantage of it given the card I have and the likelihood that I'd keep going Nvidia.
I'm really hoping that my GTX970 can handle that bump. I only really play FFXIV, 4X games, and isometric RPGs on it like Pillars of Eternity and Shadowrun, so I assume it can. Though I am a bit worried about FFXIV.
I kept looking at the Acer Predator, but jumped on this since the price was right and I don't think G-sync really would matter much for the type of games that I play the most on my PC. It does have like 55-75hz Adaptive Sync, but I don't think I'd go AMD to take advantage of it given the card I have and the likelihood that I'd keep going Nvidia.
1920x1080 - 24" is ideal
2560x1440 - 27" is ideal
34440x1440 21:9 - 34" is ideal (same dot size as 27" 2560x2440)
4K - don't know, curious myself
This is based on sitting a couple of feet away - normal desktop monitor distance.
You use scaling to increase the size of the UK and text. I have a 4K screen on my Linux laptop and I have almost everything scaled up, though it's not perfect yet.
recursive
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OP is looking for 1440p @ 144hz.
I get about 80-90 now on my 970.
I'll probably keep mostly Epic, but turn down some settings to push above 120 FPS.
I think it's been worth it since I got my 1440p 21:9 screen, but I also have a 980Ti and am planning on getting a 1080Ti after the initial launch rush for that card. I don't want to see g sync since I know I'll be tempted to drop $1,300 or however much those 21:9 g sync screens are.
Unknown Soldier
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Really once you go above 640x480 you are reaching the point of impossible to see diminishing returns.
I've been gaming in 4K about a year now, you can't drag me back to anything lower.
JoeyJungle
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I love 1440p, but I mostly enjoy it for the extra desktop real estate.
SapientWolf
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I've played on 4k 60fps monitors and 1080p 144hz Gsync monitors in the same room to compare, and I thought the games looked better running on the Gsync monitors. So smooth and silky.
Ricky Ricardo
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Excellent POV, in my opinion.
I have a 24" 1080p monitor and will run it into the ground because its all my desk can handle at the moment.
The Acer Predator XB271HU just dropped in price on Amazon by $100. Currently it's $699.
The lowest it's ever been was just $10 cheaper at $689.
The lowest it's ever been was just $10 cheaper at $689.
potatohead
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I have 20 inches for 1080p, definitely my sweetspot.
I'm trying to think what 4K would be good at... maybe 27 or 30 inches or is that too small?
Haven't seen many 4K monitors at that size in person so hard to get an idea. I don't want to DPI scale, but I like the approximate size of icons and text in Windows at 1080p with 20 inches.
I'll be buying in a few years though, not atm so I guess there is time for more 4K smaller monitors/TVs to hit.
I'm trying to think what 4K would be good at... maybe 27 or 30 inches or is that too small?
Haven't seen many 4K monitors at that size in person so hard to get an idea. I don't want to DPI scale, but I like the approximate size of icons and text in Windows at 1080p with 20 inches.
I'll be buying in a few years though, not atm so I guess there is time for more 4K smaller monitors/TVs to hit.
Right, this year I've played on a:
1080p / 144hz / TN / 22" monitor.
1440p / 144hz / IPS/ 27" monitor (with Freesync, but not using it due to Nvidia gpu)
4k / 60hz / LED / 55" TV.
All of this with a GTX 970 and relatively new hardware.
The 1080p screen was the worst, but mainly because of the TN panel with washed out colours. 1080p was fine though at 22", and most games could be maxed out with all bells and whistles on. However, FXAA at this resolution is a bit crude, and you really need MSAA on to be able to mitigate the jaggies in games like GTA V.
When I moved over to my 1440p screen it was a notable step up in both colours (logically, since I moved from TN to IPS) as well as producing a clean image. I even played a lot of games without AA on in the beginning. I also feel that at 27" 1080p is really not cutting it resolution wise and depending on the way AA is being handled per game you might end up with a less than desirable outcome.
After I got used to the new resolution I noticed in games like TW3 that I wanted to enable AA again, to achieve a more 'quiet' image for the eyes. However, a GTX 970 is not enough to run TW3 at 1440p without sacrificing some settings. And this goes for all semi-new games with impressive graphics. Which is why I'm switching to a GTX1070 in a couple of weeks time.
To round up the comparison, I've played many new games on my 4k TV as well - obviously with really sub-par framerates - and I've got to say that moving from 1440p to 4k wasn't that big of a deal to me. But this is probably because I'm comparing 1440p at 27" to 4k at 55", so PPI wise it's not entirely fair.
The biggest thing for me however is that at 1440p I'm finally at a resolution where I don't notice/mind jaggies anymore, whereas at 1080p I was always tweaking settings in order to achieve an acceptable IQ.
This obviously depends on how easily you are annoyed by these kind of things though
1080p / 144hz / TN / 22" monitor.
1440p / 144hz / IPS/ 27" monitor (with Freesync, but not using it due to Nvidia gpu)
4k / 60hz / LED / 55" TV.
All of this with a GTX 970 and relatively new hardware.
The 1080p screen was the worst, but mainly because of the TN panel with washed out colours. 1080p was fine though at 22", and most games could be maxed out with all bells and whistles on. However, FXAA at this resolution is a bit crude, and you really need MSAA on to be able to mitigate the jaggies in games like GTA V.
When I moved over to my 1440p screen it was a notable step up in both colours (logically, since I moved from TN to IPS) as well as producing a clean image. I even played a lot of games without AA on in the beginning. I also feel that at 27" 1080p is really not cutting it resolution wise and depending on the way AA is being handled per game you might end up with a less than desirable outcome.
After I got used to the new resolution I noticed in games like TW3 that I wanted to enable AA again, to achieve a more 'quiet' image for the eyes. However, a GTX 970 is not enough to run TW3 at 1440p without sacrificing some settings. And this goes for all semi-new games with impressive graphics. Which is why I'm switching to a GTX1070 in a couple of weeks time.
To round up the comparison, I've played many new games on my 4k TV as well - obviously with really sub-par framerates - and I've got to say that moving from 1440p to 4k wasn't that big of a deal to me. But this is probably because I'm comparing 1440p at 27" to 4k at 55", so PPI wise it's not entirely fair.
The biggest thing for me however is that at 1440p I'm finally at a resolution where I don't notice/mind jaggies anymore, whereas at 1080p I was always tweaking settings in order to achieve an acceptable IQ.
This obviously depends on how easily you are annoyed by these kind of things though
JackAubrey
Member
XB1/PS4 games look great on my IPS 1440p60 monitor. Better than on my 1080p TV. Very pleased with my recent purchase of this monitor. Got it for desktop/photo reasons - but it's a great all round display.
You think the GPU's in those will be anywhere close to as powerful as the 1070?
Think you are overestimating the potential power of those consoles. Massively!
I run a overclocked GTX 970/6700k at 1440p60hz (Korean IPS). Everything runs well, sure you will need to make compromises in terms of AA and some of the heavier settings, but for me its more the workspace. Programming in 1440p is really nice, since you can have a ton of windows open.
Any game is willing to work if you fiddle with the settings, however I've been considering buying a 144hz 1440p gsync. I can see it being very difficult to hit the higher refresh rate with my current setup in terms of FPS. Personally though I wouldn't go back, color and contrast on IPS too good.
Any game is willing to work if you fiddle with the settings, however I've been considering buying a 144hz 1440p gsync. I can see it being very difficult to hit the higher refresh rate with my current setup in terms of FPS. Personally though I wouldn't go back, color and contrast on IPS too good.
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