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Is it ok to NOT love Pink Floyd and be a music lover?

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I'm so fucking tired of being told "You don't like "insert Pink Floyd song title"? MAYBE YOU SHOULD LISTEN TO IT AGAIN" as if it's not possible not to like fucking annoying keyboards and trumpets and whiny girls whining for minutes.

I like plenty of their songs, and some I even love. But come on, most of em are overblown, overrated, overproduced songs with sounds that sound unbearably "old" and cheap nowadays. Or am I wrong?

I dunno.
 

Manics

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Foreign Jackass said:
I like plenty of their songs, and some I even love. But come on, most of em are overblown, overrated, overproduced songs with sounds that sound unbearably "old" and cheap nowadays. Or am I wrong?

I dunno.



You're wrong. For your penance you must listen to Dark Side of the Moon and Wish You Were Here 50 times each back to back. Then 10 listenings of The Wall and you will be forgiven. Repent yours sins boy.
 
Manics said:
You're wrong. For your penance you must listen to Dark Side of the Moon and Wish You Were Here 50 times each back to back. Then 10 listenings of The Wall and you will be forgiven. Repent yours sins boy.
I am already listening to Wish You Were Here right now. Welcome to the Machine is completely unbearable.
 

Manics

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Foreign Jackass said:
I am already listening to Wish You Were Here right now. Welcome to the Machine is completely unbearable.


You are an outsider to rock heaven then. I will pray for your soul.
 

blahness

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Foreign Jackass said:
I'm so fucking tired of being told "You don't like "insert Pink Floyd song title"? MAYBE YOU SHOULD LISTEN TO IT AGAIN" as if it's not possible not to like fucking annoying keyboards and trumpets and whiny girls whining for minutes.

I like plenty of their songs, and some I even love. But come on, most of em are overblown, overrated, overproduced songs with sounds that sound unbearably "old" and cheap nowadays. Or am I wrong?

I dunno.

i agree with you... i dont care for Pink Floyd and I dont think i ever will
 

kablooey

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I'm basically in the same camp as the OP. Pink Floyd isn't really my thing. Overblown stadium rock in general isn't really my thing. Early PF was cool though (ie from the Syd era until before Dark Side). Echoes is an absolutely amazing song. :)

They have a handful of songs past then that I love, like Wish You Were Here and Dogs, for example...
 
kablooey said:
I'm basically in the same camp as the OP. Pink Floyd isn't really my thing. Overblown stadium rock in general isn't really my thing. Early PF was cool though (ie from the Syd era until before Dark Side). Echoes is an absolutely amazing song. :)

They have a handful of songs past then that I love, like Wish You Were Here and Dogs, for example...
EXACTLY HOW I FEEL. Let's start a cult.
 

AB 101

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Pink Floyd rocks.

I live in the 60's, 70's and some 80's music worn.

90's and the latter can suck my left nut for the most part.
 

Ristamar

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I'm not a big fan of Pink Floyd, either. It seemed to be mostly played as some sort of drug use background music (for my friends and aquaintances) during my highschool years to the point of becoming cliche, especially since I was always the sober one.
 

demon

I don't mean to alarm you but you have dogs on your face
No matter how great a band is, it won't appeal to all people and all tastes. There's nothing wrong with not liking them. There are plenty of great bands I don't care for and would never buy a CD of.











Wait, did you say Pink Floyd?

Go hang yourself.
 

Teddman

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Ristamar said:
I'm not a big fan of Pink Floyd, either. It seemed to be mostly played as some sort of drug use background music (for my friends and aquaintances) during my highschool years to the point of becoming cliche, especially since I was always the sober one.
It gets cliche even if you aren't sober. I think Pink Floyd has some great songs, but I'm not the biggest fan. Always preferred Led Zeppelin or even Grateful Dead for that kind of music. There's a depressing or dreary vibe to a lot of Floyd's catalog that I just don't dig...
 
Exactly the type of response I'm used to getting from Pink Floyd fanboys. Thanks for the supporters, and a big FUCK YOU to the moronic PF drones!
 

Manics

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Foreign Jackass said:
Exactly the type of response I'm used to getting from Pink Floyd fanboys. Thanks for the supporters, and a big FUCK YOU to the moronic PF drones!



We appreciate your honesty even if we'll never look at you and your weak minded musical tastes the same way again. It takes a big man to admit he doesn't like great music.
 

Manics

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Flynn said:
There's no such thing as manditory music. People who believe so are slaves to the past.


Slavery to the beat.
Slavery to the chord.
Slavery to the pleasure.
Slavery to the god.
 

demon

I don't mean to alarm you but you have dogs on your face
Flynn said:
There's no such thing as manditory music. People who believe so are slaves to the past.
It's not necessarily a nostalgic, 'classic' rock thing.....the same kind of mentality surrounds Radiohead as well, I think. Although I do think they're an overall better band than Pink Floyd, it's still understandable if someone doesn't like them. Music is art, and all art is subjective.
 
It's like a love/hate relationship. I'm getting obsessed with it. I genuinely love some parts of some songs, and hate the rest of it. It's like having to eat this big pile of mashed potatoes to get to the great chocolate cake, having to listen to those endless, meandering pieces of shit stadium-filling guitar solos and wacko sounding boring keyboards just to get to this meaty great-sounding verse or chorus. I HATE YOU FOR TEASING ME, PINK FLOYD.
 

Regniws

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A bit off-topic, but for those that do love Pink Floyd... They are Re-uniting for this years Live8. And rumors have it, that if that goes well... world tour will follow a few months after. Now that would be one hell of a show
 

xsarien

daedsiluap
Sal Paradise Jr said:
It's more important that you love Velvet Underground.

And Journey.

I agree (kind of). Velvet Underground is required listening as far as I'm concerned. Journey's more, like, I dunno. That psych course you take to fill out the rest of your schedule. ;)
 

Manics

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Regniws said:
A bit off-topic, but for those that do love Pink Floyd... They are Re-uniting for this years Live8. And rumors have it, that if that goes well... world tour will follow a few months after. Now that would be one hell of a show


Fuck the world tour, I wanna see them create a new studio album with Waters finally collaborating with his old mates again.

I think I felt it move when I made that suggestion.
 

ronito

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It's ok not to like them, but you should probably at least appreciate the impact that they had on the rock and/or roll.
 

kablooey

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Funny that PF is "required listening" now. When punk first started, it was a reaction primarily against Pink Floyd's bloatedness. Johnny Rotten used to always wear his "Pink Floyd Sucks" shirt. For a while, no one would be caught dead listening to them, but I guess over time that feeling started to fade away.

Btw, Foreign Jackass, when do you want to start that cult?
 
xsarien said:
I agree (kind of). Velvet Underground is required listening as far as I'm concerned. Journey's more, like, I dunno. That psych course you take to fill out the rest of your schedule. ;)

The Journey thing was more an inside joke with myself. :p
 
I like "Meddle" a great deal but the rest are only nice to hear in passing should I be in some alien environment where radio is the only source of music.
 

Chony

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To each his own.*






*Except with regards to Pink Floyd, Led Zeppelin, Creedence Clearwater Revival, and or the Beatles.
 

demon

I don't mean to alarm you but you have dogs on your face
kablooey said:
Funny that PF is "required listening" now. When punk first started, it was a reaction primarily against Pink Floyd's bloatedness. Johnny Rotten used to always wear his "Pink Floyd Sucks" shirt. For a while, no one would be caught dead listening to them, but I guess over time that feeling started to fade away.[Q/UOTE] I never knew that. When was it 'uncool' to listen to Pink Floyd?
 

Manics

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kablooey said:
Funny that PF is "required listening" now. When punk first started, it was a reaction primarily against Pink Floyd's bloatedness. Johnny Rotten used to always wear his "Pink Floyd Sucks" shirt. For a while, no one would be caught dead listening to them, but I guess over time that feeling started to fade away.


Funny now that Johnny Rotten is a middle aged wanker and has re-formed with the Pistols to do those concerts (where he always walks off stage saying people shouldn't be spitting at him), it's now uncool to listen to the Sex Pistols.
 

kablooey

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Manics said:
Funny now that Johnny Rotten is a middle aged wanker and has re-formed with the Pistols to do those concerts (where he always walks off stage saying people shouldn't be spitting at him), it's now uncool to listen to the Sex Pistols.

Haha, probably. I don't really like the Sex Pistols either. But the punk movement in general was very anti-Floyd.

demon said:
I never knew that. When was it 'uncool' to listen to Pink Floyd?

I think it was more of a British thing, back in the late 70's-early 80s, when punk was just starting. I've heard for example that none of the members of Radiohead listened to Floyd until just before OK Computer, because they were too afraid, due to all the bad stuff they'd heard about them while growing up. Even then, the only album any of them liked was Meddle. Take that as you will. :)
 

xsarien

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Manics said:
Funny now that Johnny Rotten is a middle aged wanker and has re-formed with the Pistols to do those concerts (where he always walks off stage saying people shouldn't be spitting at him), it's now uncool to listen to the Sex Pistols.

It's not cool to listen to anything new they make, but listening to their old stuff is still fine. Just like it's still cool to buy Fresh Fruit for Rotting Vegetables, but if you buy any of the other reissues, you...shouldn't mention it in public.

Also: Jefferson Airplane is still cool, Starship never was.
 

jgkspsx

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Manics said:
Fuck the world tour, I wanna see them create a new studio album with Waters finally collaborating with his old mates again.

I think I felt it move when I made that suggestion.
Goddamn you don't want that. Go look at the lyrics Waters has written lately. There's no way they'd torture themselves with that or a world tour, either -- they're fat'n'happy old men who have no cause to spend loads of time with people they loathe.

Back on topic: So what tracks exhibit these stadium-filling guitar bombast? Even Comfortably Numb seems like ultimately a private thing. Waters SOLO (Radio KAOS and Amused To Death) is stadium-filling guitar bombast,

I've fallen away from my intense Floyd fandom, mostly due to becoming aware how silly, self-absorbed, and empty the great majority of the political stuff is. I still love the sounds -- though the woo woo girls, while better with Floyd than with any other band I'm aware of, really irritate me. Meddle is still among my very favorite albums and will always be.

Edit: Regarding Johnny Rotten:
Q: Johnny Rotten had his famous "I hate Pink Floyd" T-shirt. Did you hate the Sex Pistols?
(J.L.- South Shields)

DG: No, I thought the Sex Pistols were rather good. I've been on a show with Johnny Rotten - it was at Sadler's Wells - and he said he never really hated Pink Floyd and actually he was a bit of a fan. I confess to not having entirely believed it in the first place. I mean, who could hate us?

(ps led zeppelin sucks)
 

8bit

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Foreign Jackass said:
I'm so fucking tired of being told "You don't like "insert Pink Floyd song title"? MAYBE YOU SHOULD LISTEN TO IT AGAIN" as if it's not possible not to like fucking annoying keyboards and trumpets and whiny girls whining for minutes.

I like plenty of their songs, and some I even love. But come on, most of em are overblown, overrated, overproduced songs with sounds that sound unbearably "old" and cheap nowadays. Or am I wrong?

I dunno.

You know what's good about Pink Floyd?


Nothing.


They fucking suck.
 

White Man

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Funny now that Johnny Rotten is a middle aged wanker and has re-formed with the Pistols to do those concerts (where he always walks off stage saying people shouldn't be spitting at him), it's now uncool to listen to the Sex Pistols.

Johnny has never denied being in it only for the money, from Day 1 of the Sex Pistols existence. The Sex Pistols did not make the punk commandment that every band has to have the mindset of "making money is bad."

Also, when the Sex Pistols did reform some years back, Johnny said he enjoyed the irony of playing for stupid fratboys.

PiL > Sex Pistols, though.
 

tt_deeb

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White Man said:
PiL > Sex Pistols, though.

This is true.

As far as Pink Floyd is concerned, I like them. My friend says the band Camel is better and have been around longer than Pink Floyd. I haven't heard anything by them, have any of you?
 

snaildog

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I probably haven't heard enough, but their vocals really do nothing for me. I love most classic rock - my three favourite bands are The Beatles, Led and The Beach Boys.
 

jgkspsx

Member
tt_deeb said:
My friend says the band Camel is better and have been around longer than Pink Floyd. I haven't heard anything by them, have any of you?
Camel is real prog-rock. Pink Floyd has a reputation for being prog-rock, but they're not, at least not in its pure form.

Prog-rock sucks.
 

Kon Tiki

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jgkspsx said:
Camel is real prog-rock. Pink Floyd has a reputation for being prog-rock, but they're not, at least not in its pure form.

Prog-rock sucks.

Progressive rock is relative to the time of release. What was progressive then may not be progressive now. It is a hard genre to label. As far as not being prog in the pure form is absurd. Pink Floyd matches, if not rewritten, the criteria for progressive rock.

One could say the Beatles, King Crimson, and Genesis were progressive, in fact, they were for the time.
 

Guzim

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Manics said:
You're wrong. For your penance you must listen to Dark Side of the Moon and Wish You Were Here 50 times each back to back. Then 10 listenings of The Wall and you will be forgiven. Repent yours sins boy.
How could you forget The Piper at the Gates of Dawn, Meddle, and Animals?
 
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