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Is it true that you should only use soap on minimal areas of your body when washing?

Isn't this negated by all the moisturizers added into various body washes? I could see this applying to standard bar soap, but not those.
 
Lol, you losers are still hung up on soap?

Come on, we already figured out this bathing thing thousands of years ago. Get yourselves some olive oil and a strigil and start scraping away. There, I just fixed all your skin problems. (Side effects may include a strong desire to burn Carthage to the ground.)
 

Ron Mexico

Member
Can't believe there's no George Carlin reference yet--

You wash the 4 key areas: armpits, asshole, crotch and teeth. If you're in a rush, use the same brush on all 4 areas.
 

Haly

One day I realized that sadness is just another word for not enough coffee.
Isn't this negated by all the moisturizers added into various body washes? I could see this applying to standard bar soap, but not those.
“Moisturizers” are added to bar soaps as well, not the lye kind, but many cosmetic brands.
 
I'd rather my skin be a little dry (which it isn't), than have it be dirty. I'm gonna go ahead and keep soaping up my entire body.

Soap doesn't make an appreciable difference over most of your body, in fact it might disturb healthy skin bacteria. The benefits of soaping your whole body on the basis of hygiene are just psychological or imaginary.
 

Ruruja

Member
I stopped using soap on my face (and hot water) thanks to a tip from someone in the skincare GAF thread, and I don't get any spots or blackheads etc at all anymore. I was around 26 when I stopped doing it.

So thank you to that person.
 

Enduin

No bald cap? Lies!
Due to a GAF thread a good many years ago I did try the whole not using any soaps or shampoos for about half a year or so. It was OK, but not great. Even when I resorted to using Apple Cider Vinegar to wash my hair every few days my hair still felt way too greasy and dirty after just a day or two. My skin too was OK, but it didn't feel much better or anything. It wasn't a total failure, but it wasn't exactly a worthwhile alternative.

Before then I used to go overboard with soap and exfoliating every day and I had pretty dry skin as a result. I would often take two full showers a day scrubbing everything thoroughly. And using moisturizing soaps and lotion never seemed to alleviate things and it always made me feel greasy and uncomfortable afterwards, negating my thorough scrubbing altogether.
 

NotBacon

Member
Depends, is your skin actually dirty? Did you work outside doing manual labor all day? Do a lot of exercise? Sweat in the baking sun for a while? If not, then your skin is almost definitely fine and does not need a lathering of chemicals. Just stick to the important areas.
 

Stumpokapow

listen to the mad man
I feel like most dermatological advice is filled with science-y sounding words and plausible mechanisms of action but doesn't seem to be clinically validated and is almost always attached to some sort of lifestyle-type plan and/or product being sold.
 

EloquentM

aka Mannny
I feel like most dermatological advice is filled with science-y sounding words and plausible mechanisms of action but doesn't seem to be clinically validated and is almost always attached to some sort of lifestyle-type plan and/or product being sold.
But you’re not speaking on what really matter stump. No soap or soap 3x a day. Pick a damn side!
 

Voidwolf

Member
I'm disgusted by the amount of people agreeing with this. If your soap is drying your skin, switch to a soap or body wash that helps moisturize and spare the rest of us from your BO.
 

mrkgoo

Member
If you listen to the internet, we've been using everything wrong.

This. There's no right and wrong way to do stuff like this. The internet just loves to be controversial to mainstream methods - look hard enough (and typically it's not that hard), you'll find someone going against the grain of everything. People just want to lead a new fad.

Just wash with soap. If it dries you out, find a different kind or just minimise how you use it. Hell, cut it out entirely if you want. It's up to you. It's not to say that soap has been used wrong.
 

SRG01

Member
Due to a GAF thread a good many years ago I did try the whole not using any soaps or shampoos for about half a year or so. It was OK, but not great. Even when I resorted to using Apple Cider Vinegar to wash my hair every few days my hair still felt way too greasy and dirty after just a day or two. My skin too was OK, but it didn't feel much better or anything. It wasn't a total failure, but it wasn't exactly a worthwhile alternative.

Before then I used to go overboard with soap and exfoliating every day and I had pretty dry skin as a result. I would often take two full showers a day scrubbing everything thoroughly. And using moisturizing soaps and lotion never seemed to alleviate things and it always made me feel greasy and uncomfortable afterwards, negating my thorough scrubbing altogether.

You might be able to get away with a milder soap and shampoo. Most soaps and body washes are way too harsh, even the ones that purport to be mild.

I feel like most dermatological advice is filled with science-y sounding words and plausible mechanisms of action but doesn't seem to be clinically validated and is almost always attached to some sort of lifestyle-type plan and/or product being sold.

Well, there are scientific claims for proper hand washing and such, of course... but volume and speed of water are also effective in washing non-critical areas. And I was told this by both nurses and doctors.

(Actually, a nurse even told me that flushing superficial wounds with an adequate amount of water is just as effective as disinfecting.)

I'm disgusted by the amount of people agreeing with this. If your soap is drying your skin, switch to a soap or body wash that helps moisturize and spare the rest of us from your BO.

Soaps and detergents by their very nature don't moisturize; they have to remove oils as they're surfactants. Soaps may have added moisturizers, but they're not very effective.

Using a mild soap with moisturizers can help. Or soaping critical areas only followed by full body rinsing.
 

eot

Banned
You should only shampoo your hair once a week too.

Really depends on your hair and scalp. If you're shampooing it every day it will take a long time to train your scalp to produce less sebum. Also, the curlier and the thicker the hair, the longer it takes for the scalp to dirty it up, so you can get away with not washing it as often.
 

Enco

Member
I'll save you a few pages:

"We didn't have soap/shampoo/showers thousands of years ago and we were fine"

"Stop using soap/shampoo/conditioner/pillows. It's bad for you"

"Don't be a dirty fuck and clean yourself before leaving the house"
 

Yukiari

Member
I have KP so I exfoliate a lot and then moisturize a lot afterwards. I wonder if I'm hurting or helping my KP now.
 
I do what is said in the OP and current and former lovers haven't said anything. Of anything I get complements on how smooth, supple and good smelling my skin is.
 
This is kind of what I do. But I do the full body soap every 3 days just to cover my bases. So far my gf hasn't complained that my non-stink areas stink, so I think I'm good.

You should only shampoo your hair once a week too.

That depends on skin/scalp and hair. You should use shampoo as often as you need, but not anymore than that. My hair unfortunately gets really greasy from scalp oils about 30 hours after I take a shower. So I have to shampoo every morning. Condition every 2 or 3 days cause too much of that makes my hair a greasy mess also. And I always condition before I shampoo.
 
I bet these are the same people that tells people to stop washing their hair and faces with no scientific evidence to back up any sort of benefit for doing so. If your sky is dry after thoroughly cleaning them, apply moisturizer. It's not really rocket science.

Humans back in the good old days before modern skin care were absolutely disgusting and unhygienic. There is a reason modern humans can live for so long while the life expectancy of neanderthals all the way to dark age Europeans don't even reach the american retirement age in 2017. Cleanliness and hygiene is king.
 
Humans back in the good old days before modern skin care were absolutely disgusting and unhygienic. There is a reason modern humans can live for so long while the life expectancy of neanderthals all the way to dark age Europeans don't even reach the american retirement age in 2017. Cleanliness and hygiene is king.

That has little to do with soaping up in the shower and a lot more to do more modern inventions like sewage and water filtration systems. It sounds crazy, but consuming everyone's feces to hydrate or cooking with feces is a lot more serious to life expectancy than not soaping down your entire body every morning in the shower. As long as you're showering, washing your hands and being a generally clean person that is.

And American life expectancy is behind a ton of European countries. There are a lot factors and what we're discussing isn't one of them.
 
Yeah, those are the obvious gross places. I kinda just wipe over my chest and back after that. I don’t really scrub any other area.
 
I'm disgusted by the amount of people agreeing with this. If your soap is drying your skin, switch to a soap or body wash that helps moisturize and spare the rest of us from your BO.

I'm guessing these are the same people who go to Magic/anime/video game conventions and make the entire place reek of BO. I was about to say "you know who you are," but actually the problem is that you people don't realize how bad you smell to the rest of us. Mouth-breathing crunchy ass scallywags, the lot of you.
 
I feel like most dermatological advice is filled with science-y sounding words and plausible mechanisms of action but doesn't seem to be clinically validated and is almost always attached to some sort of lifestyle-type plan and/or product being sold.
Stumpo, just give me the scientific answer as to what's best.
 
Yeah normal cheap soap would dry ur skin.
Use cream based soaps or shower creams/gels. And moisturize.

This kind of shit is why there are so many filthy fucks out there.
 

SRG01

Member
That has little to do with soaping up in the shower and a lot more to do more modern inventions like sewage and water filtration systems. It sounds crazy, but consuming everyone's feces to hydrate or cooking with feces is a lot more serious to life expectancy than not soaping down your entire body every morning in the shower. As long as you're showering, washing your hands and being a generally clean person that is.

And American life expectancy is behind a ton of European countries. There are a lot factors and what we're discussing isn't one of them.

Additionally, human society has developed a better idea of when and where to remove bacteria, and when and where it is beneficial.

I'm guessing these are the same people who go to Magic/anime/video game conventions and make the entire place reek of BO. I was about to say "you know who you are," but actually the problem is that you people don't realize how bad you smell to the rest of us. Mouth-breathing crunchy ass scallywags, the lot of you.

We're not saying to not wash -- obviously you have to wash pits and all that -- but excessive washing (and hot water) heavily damages your horned layer.
 
It's fucking disgusting that some of you just cover every inch of your body in soap. I only put soap on my face, ears, armpits, arms, chest area, back legs, knees, foot arch, elbow, and lower thorax.
 

Jzero

Member
Yes it dries out your skin but I don't feel clean until I scrub everything, especially after a long day at a sweaty concert
 

Lorcain

Member
You should only shampoo your hair once a week too.
This advice isn't going to work well for someone who lives an active lifestyle and does athletic events during the week. Or rather, it wouldn't work well for the people that have to be around them. My hair is funky after just 1 long run. Washing it with water doesn't get all of the sweaty-salty funk smell out.
 
I full body wash/scrub + shampoo my hair every other day.

In the days between, I just rinse off my hair thoroughly, and put a little gel soap on my hands into a lather and rub into my groin, pits, and buttle. If any lather is left I get it between my toes simply because I walk a lot at work and don't want any fungus.

I do NOT scrub on those off days, or else my skin will over exfoliate and get dry. Exfoliation is good, yes, but it's been widely exaggerated to sell products we don't need.

ADDITIONAL PSA: Wash behind your ears folks. Believe it or not, it can get smelly back there if you don't give it enough attention depending on the shape of your ears and the way the skin folds back there.
 
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