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Is it worth it to sue my laundromat for damaging a pair of pants and a shirt?

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goodcow

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Okay, here's what happened...

I brought in my clothes on Friday, March 11th. Paid $3 extra for seperate color/white cleaning, total was $21. Picked up the laundry Saturday, March 12th. Got home, and noticed a pair of pants had numerous red bleach stains all over the back of them, and a shirt's collar had minor bleach stains as well.

I went this morning to see what kind of resolution I could get, as this has never happened to me before. The owner, a middle aged Chinese man, who I can barely understand, wasn't there. I left the two items, along with a note with my name, address, and phone number, with one of the employees, and she said to come back at 3PM when he gets in.

I went there at 3PM. Basically, again with me not really understanding what was going on, he:

a) Thinks I've been there several times before. ... I just moved to Manhattan February 15th, the first time I got laundry done it was at another place, this second time it was at his shop, and it was the first time I'd ever stepped foot in there.

b) He's saying the stains were there. Now can I honestly 100% say they weren't? No. However, I think I'd have been told by somebody if I were walking around in damaged, bleach stained pants for about a week, not to mention noticed it when taking them off/putting them on.

Then he showed me the ticket where it says on it about the damage, and this is where I'm confused... he's saying he told me the damage was there.

Now, my ticket, which, apparently all laundromats take when you pickup, never had this information when I dropped off, because, obviously, he didn't open the bag and inspect every piece of clothing there.

So, assuming, and this is a far stretch, that the stain was there when he opened the bag to inspect the items, he then marked his ticket noting it, but is it even legal to do so without notifying me, the customer?

I mean, I really have no proof here that I was even in the shop, simply because all laundromats take the claim ticket back when you pickup, and I don't know how else I'd prove anything, as it'd basically be my word against his.

Has this, or a similar scenario happened to anyone else here before? I'm leaning towards suing just for the principle of it.

Also, he's keeping the pants for now to try and get the stain out, which I would think is a non-official admittence of guilt on his part. Or maybe I should just get them back as evidence, and if he refuses, I call the cops on the spot.

Please give advice.
 

demi

Member
You should totally sue, and make another thread about it.

And show pictures for evidence. Especially of the suspected guy.
 

Atari2600

Too dumb for the internet
No. It's not worth it. Pain in the ass. I hate getting bent over by companies too, but sometimes you have to just take your business elsewhere. File a complaint with the Better Business Bureau, if you wish, but it likely won't help.

It's a pair of pants. What are you going to call the cops for? Calm down man. :)
 

goodcow

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Atari2600 said:
No. It's not worth it. Pain in the ass. I hate getting bent over by companies too, but sometimes you have to just take your business elsewhere. File a complaint with the Better Business Bureau, if you wish, but it likely won't help.

It's a pair of pants. What are you going to call the cops for? Calm down man. :)

I was only going to call the cops if I was in the shop and he refused to give me back my pants.

Anyway, I know it'll be a pain in the ass, but I usually try to fight things for the principle of them.
 

shuri

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I know that some places have a disclaimer about your stuff getting damaged. Then again, is it worth sueing for pants?
 

goodcow

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Naked Shuriken said:
I know that some places have a disclaimer about your stuff getting damaged. Then again, is it worth sueing for pants?

If he had just fessed up, and said, "Yes, we damaged your pants, I'm sorry, here's "x" amount of money," fine. But he thinks I've been to that laundromat multiple times before, and I think he's trying to cover it up. Plus, if he didn't damage the pants, why would he be trying to remove the bleach stains now?
 

yoshifumi

Banned
sueing anybody over a pair of pants and a shirt isn't going to get you any net gain in money or anything, you're better off just burning the place down if you want to get even that badly.
 

goodcow

Member
Matlock said:
And this, my dear friends, is what is wrong with America today.

Look asshole, I don't like the sue happy culture of America, but if somebody damages my pants, and then lies, and tries to blame me and cover it up, I don't think it's really that bad to want the monetary value of the pants back, and an apology. It's not as if I'd be suing for "emotional distress" or something.
 

darscot

Member
I can`t believe you mentioned the police. Time to grow up and get a clue. I think they have more important things to do then worry about your pants. WHo they hell considers suing over a pair of pants and a shirt. How much are these pants worth?
 

goodcow

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darscot said:
I can`t believe you mentioned the police. Time to grow up and get a clue. I think they have more important things to do then worry about your pants. WHo they hell considers suing over a pair of pants and a shirt. How much are these pants worth?

Again, the police were mentioned only in the case of me having gone back there to obtain the pants and him not giving them back, effectively stealing my clothes.

And why am I looked at as strange for considering suing for the principle of something? The guy lied about damaging my pants. The cost is irrelevent, after the court filing fees ($15), if I were to win, it'd probably just cover those. The point is to show this guy he can't just damage people's clothes and lie about it. If anyone should grow up it'd be you for, seemingly with your attitude here, lying down while people walk on you.
 

Matlock

Banned
You're thinking of taking a guy to court for $20. Go in, explain it RATIONALLY AND CALMLY and request some sort of retribution, and if that doesn't help, well, don't go back again.

Is it that hard to understand?

edit: also, I'm :lol'ing to "HE CAN'T JUST DAMAGE CLOTHES AND GET AWAY WITH IT!" line. If someone else were in the same position, you wouldn't give half a shit about him.
 

goodcow

Member
Matlock said:
You're thinking of taking a guy to court for $20. Go in, explain it RATIONALLY AND CALMLY and request some sort of retribution, and if that doesn't help, well, don't go back again.

Is it that hard to understand?

edit: also, I'm :lol'ing to "HE CAN'T JUST DAMAGE CLOTHES AND GET AWAY WITH IT!" line. If someone else were in the same position, you wouldn't give half a shit about him.

First of all, I did go in and try to explain rationally and calmly about the situation for about ten minutes with him. He wouldn't budge. Between not being able to understand his English well, and him saying they were already stained repeatedly, I couldn't get a resolution there. The fact that he thinks I've been there before and am a repeat customer shows that his mind is clearly failing him.

I'm not going to go back again, but that doesn't mean he can just damage my clothes, lie, and expect nothing to come of it.

And if somebody else were in my same position, no, I wouldn't setup some private donation fund for legal fees, or anything of a "caring" manner like that, but I would think to myself, or say, "Good job, stand on your principles." I wouldn't say they were what's wrong with America like some people.
 

Matlock

Banned
Just out of curiousity, goodcow, how many friends do you have? And how often do you have the air in your tires let out?
 

Matlock

Banned
goodcow said:
Many, and I ride the bus/subway.

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AntoneM

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I can understand why you would go through with suing him, but, you also have to pick your fights. The amount of time it would take to sue him could better be spent on more critical issues, such as the government feeding the media "news" stories and the media airing them without mentioning who it's from, or you could spend that time playing games or doing work. I am with you on the principle of the matter, but I don't think this a fight worth fighting.
 
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