This is the strangest batch of posts I've seen in a while.
Is Mainstream Hatred Of Anime Growing?
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jhmtehgamr20xx
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I can kind of get with this. It's not like the gritter, more granulated "imperfections" of cel animation can't be imitated digitally (although they will NEVER be 100% replicated by those means, simply due to the way digital works and how there are innate human imperfections you can't write into an algorithm), but it's upsetting to not see those techniques explored more often.
It's most distressing when the anime itself portrays itself to be "dark" and "gritty" and "dystopian", b/c in reality those are just passing words. Everything looks too perfect, color saturation is too perfectly uniform, almost zero granularity, very little discolorization, too clean textures, etc.
Knights of Sidonia is a perfect example of what you're talking about with regards feeling "soulless"...and that's an even bigger blow personally b/c I am a huge fan of the creator's manga works (wouldn't know in what capacity he's involved in the anime however).
AwakenedCloud
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Don't get me wrong, I can fully get behind a good Anime series from time to time. I was just expressing one of the reasons that GB and Idle Thumbs have been down on Anime, especially after Quinn gate occurred recently. Not everyone on OT goes to the gaming side, so just be aware that some gaming journalists have been under attack for being "Social Justice Warriors". One said journalist, Patrick Klepek, noted that all of those attackers happened to have Anime avatars. I wasn't saying that watching Anime makes you a terrible person.
Also, the argument that your critiquer's fanbase has terrible people does not resolve or absolve the terrible people from your fanbase. I'm fully aware of the darker side of the Sonic fanbase, and wouldn't think twice about throwing them under a bus. For God's sake the Sonic in my avatar is Anime!
#NotAllAnimeAvatars
Edit: Looking back to my original post (which I wrote right after waking up), I could see how people got confused. I was not saying that most people with Anime avatars are bad, but rather that a lot of people who do anti SJW campaigns happen to have Anime avatars.
Mauricio_Magus
Banned
Yeah.
That and as a Shounen girl, it's disappointing because I can no longer find any that show respect for women or even treat them like human beings.
Watch Chihayafuru if you haven't done so yet.
sonikokaruto
Banned
the sad thing is that i've heard that exact same argument from moms here in mexico.
like, really really really, word by word.
Doesn't help that the crazies do that shit. Some pastor from a christian church in a really bad place of the city got jailed because he killed his girlfriend.
broke her neck, then stabbed her with a screwdriver 90 times
Sadly, he used dragon ball shirts. or so they say. She was 13.
This so much
YYH !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
amg ishibb is a yyh fan <33333333333 you can not escape from me anymore bearbear <3
I loved YYH and RKomg omg omg omg *squee*
We have to gush over our favourites on YYH and RK one of these days! In our secret evil lair !
KHR is okay. It's problematic later on, as more and more girl characters are assigned soft powers like healing and stuff. There's a girl that fights as one of the main fighters but when she really is in a pinch, she summons the real deal, whom is a boy character.
Shame.
I am trying a lot of stuff to satiate my shounen needs. Bleach, KHR, DN.Gray, Ao no Exorcist and none of them really hits the spot the way old titles used to. But then again, YYH was pretty odd even for back then.
Right now I'm only reading HxH and Kuroshitsuji (the latter not really shounen but hey, what a girl can do. beggars cant be choosers)
I AM YOURS <333333
That's a shame. I remember seeing that Chrome girl and thought it was pretty sweet to have a girl with one eye. It goes against the typical beauty standards of anime and really made me consider it.
YYH was fantastic for many reasons and I do believe the characters were one of the best parts. Although there weren't many fighting women (beside Mukuro and another that's slipped my mind), I thought the girls were still very entertaining and contributed to the plot. Botan was so dumb but she was my favorite since she was so bubbly but really helpful LOL
The last Shounen I read, outside of Magi was Nurarihyon No Mago. It was okay until I grew annoyed by the whole "main character is the ultimate everything, all the enemies like him, the girls want him, and he's just the center of everything". I had enough of that with Naruto and it quickly turned me off from it.
I'll look into it thanks!
Both killable? That's epic. See my issue isn't with sexualized women (shocking yeah), it's with lack of equality (both genders can die, be maimed, win, lose, etc). You can have a very sexy woman who uses her appeal to get what she wants even in the most horrible ways and I'm still sold. Women can be evil too. That's the equality I look for. :3
I heard of Moribito. I'll give it another look, Thanks.
Read and watched FMA. Loved it. Riza is still my girl <3
I'll see about it. As I said earlier I'm not worried about the sexualization. As long as there's something dynamic to offer and even the guy characters are charming, I'll probably really like it.
Never heard of it. Thanks I'll look this up too!
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Wow, anime gaf is amazing at this! All these things I've never heard of! Takes me to the glory days in high school hahaha
Vincent Alexander
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Agreed. Mech anime like Gundam are some of my favorite types of anime, and they have been hit the hardest with garbage CG since the HD look came into play. It 100% rips me out of the show. I'm halfway into the reincarnation of Battleship Yamato, and while I like it, the CG (or whatever they are) ships take me out of the show. However, I'll give it to Yamato that theirs looks better/more realistic than most.
xDUMPWEEDx
Banned
I was a casual anime fan back in the mid 90's with stuff like DBZ, Ronin Warriors, and even Samurai Pizza Cats.
A friend brought a bunch of Ranma 1/2 stuff to school too, which was cool to look through.
I dunno... all the 80's Japanese animes that got localized were great I thought.
A friend brought a bunch of Ranma 1/2 stuff to school too, which was cool to look through.
I dunno... all the 80's Japanese animes that got localized were great I thought.
Ok, then you gotta watch attack on titan right now!
truthly an equal opportunity (for misery) series, mwahahahaha.Only notorious difference between male and female characters in AoT is that the male lead is far more punchableinthefacepleaseshutup than the female, that's fore sure
Someone clearly hasn't watched Gundam Build Fighters!
I agree with duckroll's previous post that what you're describing isn't really "mainstream", vs one entertainment culture having negative opinions on another. That said, I have noticed the negative opinions of people with anime Avatars on GAF and do think it isn't fair, but I will say that posters with anime avatars should be more self aware of what they are posting/what they are saying while having an anime avatar (like your example with people with anime avatars attacking women in the gaming industry) if they don't want people having/creating these negative opinions about them.
For example, if you saw a poster with a US Republican politician avatar (Marco Rubio, Sarah Palin, etc...) and the poster posted negative opinions on gay marriage in the US or made comments on wanting the US to go to war with countries in the Middle East, you would probably look at the avatar and go "no surprise there". So if a poster with these avatars didn't want these types of responses, he or she should probably avoid speaking on subjects with opinions that are seen as the defacto opinions of US Republicans.
afternoon delight
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Master Ninja killed it on the first page, my initial exposure to anime was Akira, Vampire Hunter D, Jin Roh Wolf Brigade, Miyazaki, and the Tekken movie.
It's hard to find the Paprika's and Perfect Blue's coming out today, if they even do.
Edit: How could I forget Ninja Scroll...
It's hard to find the Paprika's and Perfect Blue's coming out today, if they even do.
Edit: How could I forget Ninja Scroll...
You can try "Ran to Haiiro no Sekai" (or "Ran and the Gray World"). The sexualization in it puts me off a bit and I don't like that the main character is so dumb, but the manga itself is quite decent and I think it has what you're looking for.
I blame the lack of five tone shading!
Snkfanatic
Banned
SliceSabre
Banned
Metal Gear is the anime of video game.
machemachete
Banned
Do you have a Titan with a Sherly hat as avatar? *___*
machemachete
Banned
Yes
This is the real pic:
But then i saw my bootleg colossal titan (i bought it for a custom) with the Sher hat with that face and mi life changed
Dan's stubborn refusal to try anime from fear of possibly liking it is hilarious.
Massive Duck. C.M.
Banned
I'm wondering how fun this comment was before the edit
This is true for almost every form of media. AnimeGAF usually has some decent recommendations. There has actually been some fun shows to grace us as of late. Hyouka is great too.
Anime is already dead. *Kenshiro.jpeg*
YesNOnoNOYes
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yea, chrome is so cute and i really like her, but she's just ... not quite at the same level with the boy fighters, and it's... why? the whole thing is fantastical but she's like a Code A player in a league of Code S team, and I wish it's not so obvious, but it is :x
but I still enjoy the art style quite a bit, so I'm continuing to read it :> (the things i put up with.gif)
YYH was amazing I think, though it had very few girl fighters, there were ones that really count. Like Yuusuke's sensei. She was an awesome fighter and the only one that could really take Toguro on. And Hiei's girlfriend in the demon world, she's awesome like whoa.
Botan and Hiei's sister were cuuuuuuuuuute. But I love the cast in YYH. The good guys and the bad guys were both so entertaining. My favourite is Kurama <3 He's just perf. aaaaa
I love how casual it was too,... idk there's something stuffy and a bit taking-self-seriously with some of the shounen titles today. I was put off by Naruto and Bleach for it. Partially. Naruto is superior to Bleach, though. But that's not a hard thing to do. Haha.
I didnt go into Magi or Nurari. But I didn't hear particularly strong positive recs for them :s
If you want to try Ao no Exorcist, I think it's a little better ... so far. There are very cute girl characters who, even though their powers are soft type, like healing and buffs, they are more contributing to the story, a bit. Ao no Exorcist is like Harry Potter meet Supernatural meet Shounen. It's still not quite what I really like from oldShounen, but it's quite cute.
And if you're going to try Attack on Titan (I call it Shingeki, cuz faster to type), I'd rec the manga instead of the anime. The anime is okay but the pacing is better in manga, and also more details. The anime has awesome combat animation though, but kinda off with the pacing for me.
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To find a fellow shounenGirl at GAF <3333333 *hugshugs ishibb
ElMexiMerican
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It was incredible in how experimental it was, and while I applaud it for that, it just didn't click with me so I dropped the show halfway through. I would consider it more of an acquired taste, but it's definitely something people should at least try watching the first few episodes or so for.
hipbabboom
Huh? What did I say? Did I screw up again? :(
You have to admit that all his points are valid though. It hurts me to hear it though as I have those people in my family as well.
Crash Station
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I'm not sure how that's related.
Kai Dracon
Writing a dinosaur space opera symphony
Some people see MLP as AmeriMoe.
Which is probably quite true, in a sense, among a relatively limited audience. But I'm not sure how many people have really made a connection between lolponies and anime.
YesNOnoNOYes
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I think he's implying that layman in general conflate cartoon with anime and the MLP fandom has not exactly been the most socially well-adjusted crowd.... Maybe?
The Silver
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Oh yeah I remember Hyouka winning anime of the year.
Dedided to try it out..........one of the most boring things I've ever watched.
will never trust anime of the year threads again.
YesNOnoNOYes
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yes, this so much. nevar again.
Violence Jack
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I'm in my early 30s and I still love anime just as much as I did in the 80s.
John Kowalski
Banned
Yep, sometimes i wish Hyouka recomendations came with a warning about how only people with souls can actually enjoy it.
No one ever thinks of soulless people like us.
I think you have to be a certain level of anime nerd to enjoy Hyouka. Sometimes, people on the inside forget what it's like to be on the outside looking in, and they make suggestions without really thinking about how the other party will see it.
Hyouka's still ace though.
Hyouka's still ace though.
YesNOnoNOYes
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The Silver
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Agreed, not everyone has souls these days. Good honest souless folk aren't fans of the "moe girl does boring stuff genre"
Some other people have made this claim, but I see no evidence of it. Have you seen the numbers the last Anime Expo 2014 brought in? It was in the 300,000s and they set a new record every year!
Moe girl does boring stuff is a pretty bad genre. What does that have to do with Hyouka, though?
Northeastmonk
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The local anime store in town seems so cliche for anyone to just walk in and buy freely. I probably enjoy more older anime than I do the new stuff. I think it had a much more appealing feel to it even though it was all violence and sex. I honestly don't see it anywhere else. I think there's also a huge stereotype that people put on anime and manga.
Don't most people rip it off the internet for free? When I walked into Best Buy back in 2006, I noticed the box sets were terribly expensive and there's not too many classic series on the shelf. I think the average consumer is completely confused, plus I think it gets put off as a younger person's hobby. Half the series on GAF I don't recognize at all. If anything I've just kept a few older series in my collection and that's about it. It feels like there won't be another classic series to own. If you know the classics now, then you don't need to worry about owning anything else.
I had a professor once who enjoyed 70s and 80s anime, but he didn't seem too thrilled about the stuff that a lot of teens and young adults watch now. He'd talk about Astroboy while everyone else was keeping up with Naruto. lol
I don't think they've outdone Ninja Scroll, Akira, Ghost in the Shell, and etc. I think there will need to be a next generation before it classifies what a classic anime film is.
Don't most people rip it off the internet for free? When I walked into Best Buy back in 2006, I noticed the box sets were terribly expensive and there's not too many classic series on the shelf. I think the average consumer is completely confused, plus I think it gets put off as a younger person's hobby. Half the series on GAF I don't recognize at all. If anything I've just kept a few older series in my collection and that's about it. It feels like there won't be another classic series to own. If you know the classics now, then you don't need to worry about owning anything else.
I had a professor once who enjoyed 70s and 80s anime, but he didn't seem too thrilled about the stuff that a lot of teens and young adults watch now. He'd talk about Astroboy while everyone else was keeping up with Naruto. lol
I don't think they've outdone Ninja Scroll, Akira, Ghost in the Shell, and etc. I think there will need to be a next generation before it classifies what a classic anime film is.
The Silver
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well good sir, if I had to say after studying the show for a few episodes, I would presume it has to do with the moe girl and her friends solving boring mysteries and doing their damndest to put me to sleep.
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