Is Metroid Prime considered...a difficult game?

Baron

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I am about 12 hours into Metroid Prime, which is the longest I've put into any one game in a period of less than a few week's time since, oh, Shenmue 2 nearly three years ago.

I seem to have reached a point where I am getting my ass handed to me over and over again, though. I've just encountered some
invisible?
Space Pirates who kept me stuck for a bit, I had to make about five separate assaults, dying and reloading, through the area they were in before I could get past them.

And now I have arrived at the
Boulder-Man Boss, Thardus.
I've tried four times, but still cannot best him. I keep running out of missles before I can finish him off, and it takes too long to set up a shot with my charge beam.

I've come to the conclusion that either:

A. I need to polish up my skillz.

B. I need more missle expansions/life extensions.

C. Metroid Prime is hard.


Have I become, I believe you kids call it..."weaksauce" in my elder years, or is this game a legitimate challenge that I need to rise up to? Has the gauntlet been thrown down, and do I need to pick it up, not gingerly, but with a firm, hearty grasp, laughing into the heavens as I do so?
 
The first Prime(as well as the second) is pretty challenging. Keep with it though, and search for secrets. Finding energy tanks and missile upgrades will give you a lot of help.
 
I found the Phazon Mines to be the toughest part of the game. Some of the bosses are hard, but nothing in the game is as difficult as having to go through that long area with no save spot.
 
impirius said:
How many missiles and tanks do you have?

I have five energy tanks and 45 missiles. I think I need to regroup, retreat, and go find some more hidden missles/tanks before I try Thardus again.
 
The game is legitmately difficult. Prime 2 starts just about as difficult as where you are now in Prime and ramps up from there. Aside from Metroid Fusion they're easily the hardest games in the series in terms of combat.

Take some time to hunt down missle expansions and power ups.
For the particular fight you're stuck in, Super Missiles, the thermal visor, scanner, and the morph ball boost are your best friends. Thardus is a mean fucker, but he can be beaten and he's a chump compared to the MP bosses that follow.

Stick with it.
 
Most prolly a combination of A and B

But i would say this game is hard. Very easy up until Phazon mines. In Phazon Mines you absolutely need A and then the only thing that makes me remember this game as a hard one is the 3 last bosses.
At the same time, it's cool to have a game that the end boss and the couple of other before him is actually tuff.
 
I'm not finding Prime 2 overly difficult, and didn't find Prime to be any more than that until the final boss. Where I got raped. And never finished it.

I have fear that I will do the same with Prime 2, as I am now at the Sky Temple. Now, to go back and do some serious missile and energy tank collection.
 
One of the things I loved about Prime was that it didn't try to baby you as the game progressed. As foobar said, it is a legitimately difficult title, is much better for it, and really makes you feel as though you accomplished something after finishing the game. How my dinky little Gamecube controller survived my frustration during some of those boss encounters, I'll never know. I still have nightmares about the Omega Pirate...
 
Baron said:
I've come to the conclusion that either:

A. I need to polish up my skillz.

B. I need more missle expansions/life extensions.

C. Metroid Prime is hard.
you know.... it's probably all three actually.
Razoric said:
the end of metroid prime was pretty tough IMO
agreed
 
Omega Pirate can prove to be very difficult. And Prime was very difficult for me and I actually gave up after countless tries, but about 3 months later I went back and beat prime in two tries.
 
Baron said:
I've come to the conclusion that either:

A. I need to polish up my skillz.

B. I need more missle expansions/life extensions.

C. Metroid Prime is hard.

A is true.
B can't be decided without more info.
C is false.
 
Memles said:
and didn't find Prime to be any more than that until the final boss. Where I got raped. And never finished it

I never got past the final form of the last boss either. Luckily, I saw the 100 percent ending on X-Play one time and finially got to see the ending. That boss sucked and that's the story I'm sticking to.
 
Hard mode without any Energy Tanks and Missile/Power Bomb expansions, now that is difficult. Omega Pirate still haunts my dreams/nightmares *shudders*
 
I found
Thardus
to be pretty easy... I finished him in my first try... but yeah, the last 3 bosses will make you cry =P (I died a lot with each one)...

IMO, Prime 1 is more difficult than Prime 2...

The other day I was at my friend's house and he couldn't kill the last boss of Prime 1 (he has had the game for more than a year), so I fought him so he could see the ending and I couldn't believe how easy it was now and how many times I died the first time I finished the game...
 
Baron said:
I have five energy tanks and 45 missiles. I think I need to regroup, retreat, and go find some more hidden missles/tanks before I try Thardus again.
Yeah, I'd at least get more missiles; Super Missiles are the way to go for beating
Thardus.
 
I died twice in the whole game, once on the Omega Pirate, once on MP herself.


MP2:Echoes was a significantly tougher game.
 
I found Echoes to be easier than Prime, but that was largely do to the lack of a learning curve going from the first to the second.

The bosses in both games aren't too hard, its a matter of learning their patterns. Once you do, you'll breaze past them.
 
The ending of Prime is definitely hard. When revisiting games to see their endings again, there are few games I can't just immediately finish again. MP1 is a major one. When I booted up MP1 before starting MP2, I lost patience trying to see the ending again after a few tries. After becoming familiar with the controls through more playing of MP2, I'll give another crack at it.
 
you don't need missles for Thardus even. I beat him before I had the visor needed to target him so it can be down, just be patient in taking shots I guess.
 
Wario64 said:
Both games are easy, but Echoes is a tad harder than MP1

I haven't noticed this, really. Bosses, maybe, but there have been no stretches, for me, where I've been close to death and nowhere near a save point. I think Echoes' structure just doesn't allow for this. It's one of the reason I think that the first remains the better designed game.
 
impirius said:
Yeah, I'd at least get more missiles; Super Missiles are the way to go for beating
Thardus.

I prefer the
Plasma Beam and Power Bombs
on
Thardus
.

This game can be tough your first time playing, I got stuck in the exact same areas/bosses that other posters are talking about. It's one of those "hard until you beat it" games though. Now the game is pretty much cake for me, except for
22%
.
 
You COULD just cheap out and jump up on the rocks surrounding Thardus' lair. You become invinclible to his attacks and only the boulders he throws at you can actually do any harm(which are easy to swat down).

I don't recommend doing it this way(he's not that tough), but if you're desperate...
 
Brandon F said:
You COULD just cheap out and jump up on the rocks surrounding Thardus' lair. You become invinclible to his attacks and only the boulders he throws at you can actually do any harm(which are easy to swat down).

I don't recommend doing it this way(he's not that tough), but if you're desperate...

Is that even possible? I mean, I haven't tried to jump up on those, but given the alternative (backtracking all to hell trying to get missed missile/life tanks) maybe I'll try this. Backtracking at this point is going to be far more difficult than after
Thardus
is beaten and you obtain the
Spider Ball
, which grants, I assume, easier access to other areas via the magnetic tracks.

edit: I don't know why we're spoiler tagging Thardus' name - the name itself is hardly a spoiler, heh.
 
Thardus
and
Flaagra
, were the hardest bosses for me, especially the latter, given the need to switch to morph ball mode and me getting stuck. The game was actually pretty easy to me, until the Phazon Mines, which weren't all that difficult. i'm stuck at [/spoiler]Metroid Prime[/spoiler], though i've only faced it a couple of times on separate occasions. i really need to sit down and beat this game.
 
Yea, it's definately possible. I watched a buddy of mine do it while playing through on Hard mode a long while back. He can't touch you when rolling around, just sit tiight with your heat visor and go to town when he emerges, switching off either when he starts throwing boulders your way or to do damage after nailing his weakspot.
 
Using bombs on him when he's rolling around makes him a lot easier. Don't need to use the annoying Thermal Visor that way.
 
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