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[Drew1440]

No, Nintendo and Valve (and Microsoft -Windows ) are in competitive positions.

 

[Gonzito]

PS2 killed Dreamcast & received Sega games

PS5 killed Xbox Series consoles & received Xbox games .


PS5 is now around 90 million sold while still being a fresh new product to most people so it will have a few more years on the market to overtake PS1 & PS4 to become PlayStation's second best selling console before it's all said & done.

 

[onQ123]

Imo it will take #1 in sales from ps2 when all is said and done, nearly 90 million sold so far and minimum price still around $400-$450? It helps that xbox mangement shat the bed and have nothing to offer (PS2 gen would have gone on longer were it not for og xbox getting killed off early to make way for "head start" 360).

It's too many uncertainties in the industry to know if it will make it to 160m but 120m is mostly a lock right now after GTA6

 

[Three]

The problem here is that Xbox is releasing more games on PS5 than Sony itself, and not that Xbox is releasing that much anyway...

Why is that a problem? What difference does it make if a game boots up on PS5 showing "Sega", "MS" or whatever instead of "Activision". It's a publisher.

 

[kevboard]

for that to be the case it would need about 50 decent exclusive games more than it currently has.

 

[Brucey]

PS2 had first party Japanese games, PS5 almost have none.

Early 360 days they spent a shit ton of money getting a bunch of Japanese releases exclusively on 360. But once they released Kinect and thought that was the bright new future....

 

[onQ123]

The problem here is that Xbox is releasing more games on PS5 than Sony itself, and not that Xbox is releasing that much anyway...

How is that a problem?

Let her cook

 

[Hawk The Slayer]

Nowhere close as most of the better games are also on PC.

With the PS2 at least games like Vice City, San Andreas, FFX, Silent Hill, RECV, RE4, Twisted Metal, and a whole bunch of other exclusives were on it.

While some games on the PS2 like gta games did also came out on PC too back then but PC wasn't as big compared to PC gaming in the modern times where it's bigger than all consoles combined.

 

[Tg89]

Xbox killed itself around 2010 or so.

 

[Danjin44]

Early 360 days they spent a shit ton of money getting a bunch of Japanese releases exclusively on 360. But once they released Kinect and thought that was the bright new future....

For me PS5 is going same direction Xbox solely focusing on western market. It my bring reason why I no longer have any interest for Sony's first party output.

Thank god for 3rd party games.

 

[Three]

Nowhere close as most of the better games are also on PC.

With the PS2 at least games like Vice City, San Andreas, FFX, Silent Hill, RECV, RE4, Twisted Metal, and a whole bunch of other exclusives were on it.

While some games on the PS2 like gta games did also came out on PC too back then but PC wasn't as big compared to PC gaming in the modern times where it's bigger than all consoles combined.

What are you on about? RE4 was a timed gamecube exclusive. PS2 got it late. Vice City and San Andreas also went to xbox later. What is different today?

 

[Ramiro_Rodriguez]

Xbox killed itself.
Sega did maybe the same, with games like Shenmue (way too expensive).
The VMUs weren't helpful (made the controllers too expensive) and neither that the rest of the controller wasn't the hit (no rumble, only one analog stick, no L2 and R2 buttons etc.).
And wasn't the Dreamcast the "weakest" console of the 6th generation?

 

[DeVeAn]

Loved the PS4 thought I'd really be into the PS5, but I just prefer the Xbox this generation. Really prefer the Series X controller and quick resume. Sucks Microsoft is destroying the Xbox brand.

 

[Hawk The Slayer]

Xbox killed itself.
Sega did maybe the same, with games like Shenmue (way too expensive).
The VMUs weren't helpful (made the controllers too expensive) and neither that the rest of the controller wasn't the hit (no rumble, only one analog stick, no L2 and R2 buttons etc.).
And wasn't the Dreamcast the "weakest" console of the 6th generation?

Plus PC wasn't as big as PS2 back then even with some great games.

It wasn't until the release of World of Warcraft and the Source games with orange box did PC start surpassing them slowly. Now with the PC being the biggest by far, no console will ever reach ps2 status.

Although PS5 is still probably the best PS console after PS2 and PS1.

 

[Mozza]

It's too many uncertainties in the industry to know if it will make it to 160m but 120m is mostly a lock right now after GTA6

If the PS5 starts getting close to 160 million, do you think Sony might find some more PS2 sales receipts?

 

[EverydayBeast]

Ps5 never had an uncharted or ico moment

 

[onQ123]

If the PS5 starts getting close to 160 million, do you think Sony might find some more PS2 sales receipts?

Lol

 

[onQ123]

Ps5 never had an uncharted or ico moment

Hogwarts Legacy, Fortnite & Soon GTA6

 

[Puscifer]

I'm almost 40

 

[Kerotan]

PS5 selling 100M at it's average price point is a much better achievement than ps2.

As for software considering it's got 2 more years of this gen and probably 6-8 of cross gen coming up it's total library is going to be unprecedented when all is said and done. Especially with all the MS games.

 

[Trogdor1123]

5 years into ps2 I could buy it for 149…

 

[rkofan87]

PS2 killed Dreamcast & received Sega games

PS5 killed Xbox Series consoles & received Xbox games .


PS5 is now around 90 million sold while still being a fresh new product to most people so it will have a few more years on the market to overtake PS1 & PS4 to become PlayStation's second best selling console before it's all said & done.

In my opinion , in terms of games The p s four is the second coming of the ps2

 

[xanaum]

No, but I think the PS6 will be. Xbox won't exist anymore or have any real relevance, Switch 2 won't be able to handle a lot of next-gen games, and the PS6 will get a flood of third-party exclusives just like the PS2 did, becoming the default console worldwide almost immediately.

 

[Danjin44]

Hogwarts Legacy, Fortnite & Soon GTA6

I'm laughing but that actually quite sad if Fortnite is considered Sony's big moment.

 

[onQ123]

I'm laughing but that actually quite sad if Fortnite is considered Sony's big moment.

I'm pretty sure Fortnite sold more PlayStations than Ico

 

[Danjin44]

I'm pretty sure Fortnite sold more PlayStations than Ico

I'm sure it did but so did Minecraft and Roblox but doesn't they are near same quality as game like ICO.

 

[Fess]

The problem here is that Xbox is releasing more games on PS5 than Sony itself, and not that Xbox is releasing that much anyway...

You basically get drip fed expensive and or late Xbox games and 2 Sony games per year. It's obviously popular but I can't imagine core fans being satisfied.

 

[nikos]

Is it Friday already?

 

[Perrott]

I can wait for OP to quote this very thread three years from now during a lifetime PS5 sales discussion

 

[Insane Metal]

Please someone wake me up

 

[bender]

Hogwarts Legacy, Fortnite & Soon GTA6

Released way before the PS5 was on the market and you dare compare it to Ico?

 

[Romulus]

I'd choose ps2 over ps5 any day. Not even close.

 

[adamsapple]

Petition to revoke O onQ123 's thread making privileges until approved by a moderator.

 

[daclynk]

 

[onQ123]

Petition to revoke O onQ123 's thread making privileges until approved by a moderator.

I guess you get a pass this time because things can't get much worse for Xbox Consoles

 

[ShirAhava]

I'd take PS2's first year over five years of the PS5

its insane how low sony has fallen in so many ways while still selling very well

 

[onQ123]

I'd choose ps2 over ps5 any day. Not even close.

But you can play the best PS2 games on PS5 with enhancements

 

[bender]

But you can play the best PS2 games on PS5 with enhancements

You can play RibbitKing on PS5?

 

[onQ123]

Released way before the PS5 was on the market and you dare compare it to Ico?

Doesn't matter the kids still want PS5 to play Fortnite ico sold about 1 million on a system that sold 160 million

 

[Romulus]

But you can play the best PS2 games on PS5 with enhancements

I'm saying if I had to choose an experience for the first time.

 

[bender]

Doesn't matter the kids still want PS5 to play Fortnite ico sold about 1 million on a system that sold 160 million

 

[onQ123]

 

[onQ123]

I'm saying if I had to choose an experience for the first time.

But that's you being young vs you being old lol

I believe the kids are enjoying PS5 just as much as we enjoyed PS2 .

 

[spookyfish]

It's the fourth(?) coming of the PS2

Is the 5 PRO the fiff?

 

[Perrott]

The problem here is that Xbox is releasing more games on PS5 than Sony itself, and not that Xbox is releasing that much anyway...

Activision & Bethesda =/= Xbox

Call of Duty, Doom, Indiana Jones, Starfield, Tony Hawk would've all come out on PS5 anyway had those publishers remained multiplatform -- them being allowed to release those titles on PlayStation mostly due to Xbox's multiplatform pivot is nothing but a return to the status quo, rather than a flex of Microsoft Gaming's publishing aparatus.

 

[Katatonic]

A bunch of Dede's in here

 

[sono]

Are we live?

 

[onQ123]

Halo is coming!

PS2 did not have a Halo

 

[lestar]

 

[RoboCain]

That was the PS4.