weepingangelz
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I actually think black women have it worse
Is refusing to date people of certain races racist?
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uncledonnie
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It's racist as hell, and dating a black girl would probably be the best thing that could happen to him to open up his closed ignorant mind.
excelsiorlef
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ha!
Earthbound64
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Can I take this opportunity to lament that none of them are writing back to me?
:/
GuessMyUserName
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So maybe stop? Reserving "racism" to only refer to the most extreme instances just means nobody talks about racism anymore until it grows back to that point and then oops where did all these "real racists" come from!
The word "explosion" refers to Hiroshima and to a chemistry experiment gone wrong. Using the word for both doesn't dilute the most extreme example.
It becomes convenient that racism can only refer to the Klan. Historically lots of racism wasn't abject hate for another group.
I think it is important that you recognize that your definition of racism is what is often used to downplay the impact that race has on our society. When people try to bring up racial inequality, opposers often use this definition of racism to essentially say youre not a slave and the KKK isnt around trying to kill you/threaten you, so what racism are you talking about?
I think the biggest takeaway you should get from this conversation is that your current definition of racism is largely propagated by people who suppress racial equality. I think youll find it best to update this definition to what racism really is.
Gotdatmoney
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Worst possible thing for her though as she gon have to explain about "rap cars", "black culture" and that "her hair is not a toy" to his dumbass.
Earthbound64
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I missed the edit on this:
Reminds me of:
Like, how about you just address everything?
Reminds me of:
Like, how about you just address everything?
excelsiorlef
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That's two different things.
That people can date who they want doesn't make saying they'd never date black folk, asian folk, etc...not racist.
It's still racist but yes no one can force them to date someone of whatever race they've rejected entirely....
cpp_is_king
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I just went back and read duckrolls post on page 2 or 3, I think I mostly agree with it. So maybe I should start calling it racism. I still think having some kind of severity based distinction is helpful, just like there are different degrees of murder to emphasize the heinousness. Im not sure what that is though
Fluffhead14
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I mean, outright refusing? Yeah, that seems pretty racist.
I don't think it's out of line to say some people may be more sexually attracted to certain types of people though.
I don't think it's out of line to say some people may be more sexually attracted to certain types of people though.
uncledonnie
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Oh yeah, not saying it'd be good for her and she would probably need the patience of a saint -- I'm just saying that if this fool actually did date a black woman he'd likely realize how stupid he was.
Earthbound64
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We have all sorts of useful adjectives - words that can modify nouns like "racism" - which can be used to serve that purpose without removing the term "racism."
Violent racism
Passive racism
"Diet racism"
Ingrained racism
Systematic racism
etc.
See how that works?
weepingangelz
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I have two friends, a black woman and an Asian man who have been dating each other for 5 years. They joke that they are the end result of the two least desirable race x sex getting together
excelsiorlef
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I always enjoy these thread as people trip over themselves to voluntarily let everyone know which specific racist they don't find attractive for some reason.
Earthbound64
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Seriously, I took this thread last night as an opportunity to go through and read / respond to the profiles of a number of black women.
This morning... no replies.
Feels bad
cpp_is_king
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Sure, but how do you distinguish I dont like <the race> from I dont like <some property of> <the race>
These seem worlds apart to me
family_guy
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I've had a white girl that was attracted to me but wouldn't date me because of how her family would react. She was honest and I didn't consider her racist. Her family on the other hand...
This seems like a non-issue. We describe most things with magnitude and direction without problem. We say people are fast, slow, weak, strong, skinny, fat, smart, dumb, etc all of the time. If we treated peoples attributes like vectors, the sentence above would be different directions. So saying somebody is strong would be pointing their strength vector in the strong direction, I guess positive direction. We use other words to describe the magnitude of this attribute vector. Maybe they are incredibly strong, or slightly above average in strength, etc. why would the same not hold for racism? Saying Indians smell bad is a racist statement, and not a trivially racist statement. It points in the racist direction with some measurable magnitude. Sure, a statement like the only good n****r is a dead n****r is clearly racist with a greater magnitude. But they both point in the same direction.
It's amazing that some people need adjectives explained to them...
Seriously, I took this thread last night as an opportunity to go through and read / respond to the profiles of a number of black women.
This morning... no replies.
Feels bad
Wow what a bunch of racists.
excelsiorlef
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By acknowledging that racism is more than just die POC die?
Like whatm should racists who merely think a ton of horrible shit about POC but are "tolerant" enough to not want their entire race wiped out be commended for that or something?
Earthbound64
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They're not.
Apologies if it came across that way, that wasn't my intent.
I'm just disappointed. But that's nothing new.
Z..
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Hey, appetite is what it is. I'm actually a serial monogamist and have only had 5 serious long time committed relationships with literally not one promiscuous relationship in between ever. Honesty towards what you like in the world should be sponsored in a relationship, even if you fully commit to be exclusive you shouldn't be affraid to explore the way you see others and share it with your ex. The romanticized idea of how relationships work has surely passed away, no? People must surely have embraced honesty and communication over playing silly games...
GuessMyUserName
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Like... "Racist" & "Very Racist"?
Gnome Scat
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I'd like to see the argument for how's it's not racist, because it pretty blatantly is.
I don't see how it isn't and based off what little I've read of this thread it seems most agree. I don't find myself into most Asian women for some reason but to ban them from my dating pool would have to be racist.
And I challenge your friend to watch RhiRhis Wild Thoughts video and tell you he's not into her. HOT!
And I challenge your friend to watch RhiRhis Wild Thoughts video and tell you he's not into her. HOT!
Always-honest
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People with preferences can die? Wtf? So you're attracted to everyone on the planet?
Without even getting into how one could form their opinion of whole group of people, you have to ask:
What "property" do a whole broad group of people share that one might dislike that'll make them write off the whole group?
Because that's no different than arbitrarily deciding you dislike a whole "race".
The only two arguments given are:
1. It is my preference. And when when I say something is my preference, that instantly puts it in a bubble that is in a vacuum and you cant possibly question if my preferences are fueled by racial biases. I created these preferences much like how Jesus was. It was an immaculate conception purely out of my mind and no influence came from external sources.
2. It isnt racist because racism is really only stuff like Nazis and the KKK.
veryslowhand
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I don't like (feel attracted to) very tall girls so I don't date then, that dosen't make me a tall people hater.
Fudgepuppy
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Wtf? Yes it's fucking racist.
Having preferences though, is a slippery slope. I personally don't find most black women attractive, but there are of course loads of black women I would be very happy to date if I got the chance. This is probably some sort of conditioning and institutionalized racism though, much in the same way so many white men have fetishes for asians.
Like wtf, why would you say "this person is someone I would like to date based on their apperance and personality, but I can't because of their pigment".
Having preferences though, is a slippery slope. I personally don't find most black women attractive, but there are of course loads of black women I would be very happy to date if I got the chance. This is probably some sort of conditioning and institutionalized racism though, much in the same way so many white men have fetishes for asians.
Like wtf, why would you say "this person is someone I would like to date based on their apperance and personality, but I can't because of their pigment".
I have a thing for asians, specifically thai and vietnamese
What about "race/ethnicity" is similar to a specific height preference?
Is it racist to be more attracted to asian women than other races?
It's like being attracted to a certain eye or hair color, I don't see how it's racist tbh. I'm talking general preferences of course, not writing off or favouring an entire race.
The example in the OP is racist for sure.
What....
That races/ethnicies usually have some visual trademarks that are part of them? And that the visual aspect of for example skin color is not that diffrerent from the visual aspect of hair color or eyes or body proportions? Obviously it's different in terms of society issues, but when it comes to attraction? I dunno...
At least that would be my interpretation.
It's like being attracted to a certain eye or hair color, I don't see how it's racist tbh. I'm talking general preferences of course, not writing off or favouring an entire race.
The example in the OP is racist for sure.
What....
That races/ethnicies usually have some visual trademarks that are part of them? And that the visual aspect of for example skin color is not that diffrerent from the visual aspect of hair color or eyes or body proportions? Obviously it's different in terms of society issues, but when it comes to attraction? I dunno...
At least that would be my interpretation.
veryslowhand
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I might not feel attracted to very pale people, or very dark.
Preferences like height and weight arent the same as straight up finding all black women unattractive. Someone who straight up said they werent attracted to Asian people would be a racist in my eyes.
I think it would be natural to infer that you prefer dating women shorter than you because height is strongly tied to masculinity. And when a guy is dating a woman taller than him, the man can often feel immasculated. This is a natural feeling that is largely fueled by societal definitions of masculinity. Natural sexual biases in our brain could also play a factor as well. Either way, it is clear that there is a source for this preference. You dont just HAPPEN to not want to date women taller than you. The question should then be, what is it that would motivate somebody to outright not want to date black women? They dont just HAPPEN to have that preference. Other things influenced them to have that preference and those things should be enumerated and judged if they are healthy things to allow to influence you.
That doesnt answer my question.
Gotdatmoney
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This always bugs me.
"I dont find black people attractive"
"Well do you find white people atttactive?"
"Yeah"
"So you find all white people attractive?"
"Well no"
"Then how are you sure you don't find all black people attractive? Being white clearly isn't the answer to this question then"
"I dunno I just know"
Fuck off please. This is really how I know people are full of shit.
"I dont find black people attractive"
"Well do you find white people atttactive?"
"Yeah"
"So you find all white people attractive?"
"Well no"
"Then how are you sure you don't find all black people attractive? Being white clearly isn't the answer to this question then"
"I dunno I just know"
Fuck off please. This is really how I know people are full of shit.
RandomHopeInc
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Its the type of racism often swept under the rug, and dismissed, kind of like how Ok Cupid numbers show black girls get way less attention. Its a collective problem, hopefully media starts to grow better people. Most people that think this way today are more or less lost causes.
Yup, its basically I dont know man. I just let my unconscious biases take the wheel. Its easier that way. I dont have to question my feelings when I do this and I can just say its my preference.
There is a massive variety of skin tone within every race. Yes even for black people.
So, skin color is a pretty weak argument for eliminating an entire race, unless one only prefers pure aryan skin.
Fudgepuppy
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Wtf?
I have a co-worker who very obviously is interested in me (getting very close and intimate with me whenever she's drunk) but I never reciprocate because I'm not attracted to her, and because I don't feel compatible with her.
So because we're both white, this kind of preference is okay, but if she was black or asian, that would make me a racist?
Our preferences are definitely shaped by culture and media, making certain races "less desirable" than others, but you can't really force anyone to change their preferences if they're gut feelings.
This is somebody who is determined to not get it.
Crossing Eden
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Exactly. To dismiss a ENTIRE race runs the assumption that everyone in said race look exactly the same when that's incredibly far from reality since there are billions of people, therefore it makes zero sense to dismiss entire races of people as "yea I don't date those."
Does the fact that she's white have anything to do with the lack of attraction?
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