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[Yoboman]

I wonder about this sort of thing, if it's actually going to be something feasible in our lifetimes? I'm sure someone, somewhere is researching this sort of thing. Would it be a nanomachine technology?

It'd be interesting to see if this comes about, and a good reason to get wealthy.

 

[Xeke]

What would reverse aging entail...?

 

[Mama Robotnik]

I'm not sure its a possibility ever.

How can we reverse decay?

 

[Get'sMad]

lifes a bitch and then ya die

 

[Gilby]

Reverse ageing; doubtful. Life-span increase through technology; hopefully.

 

[Vanillalite]

I wonder about this sort of thing, if it's actually going to be something feasible in our lifetimes? I'm sure someone, somewhere is researching this sort of thing. Would it be a nanomachine technology?

It'd be interesting to see if this comes about, and a good reason to get wealthy.

Not sure if this will happen in our life times, but I'd see more likely of finding a way to move our conscious self to a non carbon self that wouldn't degrade like our current selves and has a faster neural network.

 

[Agnostic]

Only for billionaires.

 

[Mama Robotnik]

Our last, best hope: Cross breeding with Turritopsis Nutricula, one of nature's few biologocally immortal creatures.

It grows then reverts to a younger form, and can effectively live forever.

So, who's gonna go first?

 

[Keyser Soze]

 

[ElectricBlue187]

Probably in my son's lifetime but not in mine. Oh well

 

[Mama Robotnik]

Not sure if this will happen in our life times, but I'd see more likely of finding a way to move our conscious self to a non carbon self that wouldn't degrade like our current selves and has a faster neural network.

But you'd be just copying your consciousness. You'd still die.

 

[the_log_ride]

Our last, best hope: Cross breeding with Turritopsis Nutricula, one of nature's few biologocally immortal creatures.

It grows then reverts to a younger form, and can effectively live forever.

So, who's gonna go first?

Would.

 

[krypt0nian]

But you'd be just copying your consciousness. You'd still die.

Why would you care if your prior shell died though? You'd live on.

 

[Mama Robotnik]

Would.

DAT MEMBRANE.

 

[ElectricBlue187]

But you'd be just copying your consciousness. You'd still die.

ah but that's the question, isn't it? What's the difference if your consciousness only exists moment to moment anyway?

 

[Vanillalite]

But you'd be just copying your consciousness. You'd still die.

I guess.... it's a point of contention and much debate in the futurist realm of thinking. Ray Kurzweil has definitely touched on this subject in a bunch of his books.

I'll be honest I'm not sure which side of the field I'd be on.

 

[Mama Robotnik]

I guess.... it's a point of contention and much debate in the futurist realm of thinking. Ray Kurzweil has definitely touched on this subject in a bunch of his books.

I'll be honest I'm not sure which side of the field I'd be on.

The So say the Star Trek transporter was invented - would you use it? GAF thread went on for seven pages about copying of consciousness.

It taught me that I'm on the non-copying side cos you'll still die, its just that a copy of you (that thinks its the original due to copied memories) will live on.

Why would you care if your prior shell died though? You'd live on.

No you wouldn't. Memories aren't a magical energy you can put into another body, they are an arrangement of various brain bits. You can copy the layout of the bits if you like, and you'll be creating a copy of your consciousness, but the original will still exist/be killed.

There will be no transfer. You'll die, your copy will live on.

 

[Quazar]

Reverse ageing; doubtful. Life-span increase through technology; hopefully.

But that itself could extend you long enough for those future breakthroughs.

 

[ElectricBlue187]

The So say the Star Trek transporter was invented - would you use it? GAF thread went on for seven pages about copying of consciousness.

It taught me that I'm on the non-copying side cos you'll still die, its just that a copy of you (that thinks its the original due to copied memories) will live on.

By that logic you are probably dying every instant of your life

 

[Vanillalite]

But that itself could extend you long enough for those future breakthroughs.

That's the contention many have made. You just have to get to the big bend in the exponential curve, and shit will just start getting crazy and building off each other.

 

[Mama Robotnik]

By that logic you are probably dying every instant of your life

But there is a continuity of consciousness there, even when unconscious its still the same physical brain. To copy that is a copy.

 

[tokkun]

I'm not sure its a possibility ever.

How can we reverse decay?

Are you talking specifically about genetic damage or just decay in general? Because there are certainly plenty examples of decayed things being regenerated, such as the use of crop rotation to renew depleted soil or the use of amplifiers and filters to boost the strength of decayed electrical signals.

 

[Rentahamster]

Yes.

Only for billionaires.

Cars used to be only for rich people, too.

 

[ElectricBlue187]

But there is a continuity of consciousness there, even when unconscious its still the same physical brain. To copy that is a copy.

Hume would say it's an illusion caused by the nature of memory...but I don't know enough about modern brain science to know if they've answered this question or not

 

[Dr. Kitty Muffins]

I wonder about this sort of thing, if it's actually going to be something feasible in our lifetimes? I'm sure someone, somewhere is researching this sort of thing. Would it be a nanomachine technology?

It'd be interesting to see if this comes about, and a good reason to get wealthy.

www.imminst.org

 

[Ding]

Yes, it should be possible, and yes, perhaps in "our" lifetimes. (Depends on how old you are!)

Our bodies are constantly repairing and replacing structures. Aging happens when the body is damaged at a rate faster than it is being repaired at. "Anti-aging" would happen if we could start repairing our bodies faster than damage is occurring. You can do this by improving the body's built-in repair systems, or you could just do it they way we restore classic cars: in the "shop".

I read an interesting book on the subject, recently. Most of the technologies seemed remarkably non-sci-fi-like. They all still need work and testing of course, but nothing seemed to be that pie-in-the-sky.

Here's the book. I think the dude did a TED talk as well. He has a crazy beard.

 

[brianjones]

it's unfair that we have to die.

if we did have to then we shouldn't have been given the capacity to think about it.

 

[Zoramon089]

Our bodies are constantly repairing and replacing structures. Aging happens when the body is damaged at a rate faster than it is being repaired at. "Anti-aging" would happen if we could start repairing our bodies faster than damage is occurring. You can do this by improving the body's built-in repair systems, or you could just do it they way we restore classic cars: in the "shop".

Yeah but it's my understanding that certain bodily functions don't repair and naturally damage from everyday use (like neurons). I don't think you can do anything about those...

 

[turnbuckle]

it's unfair that we have to die.

if we did have to then we shouldn't have been given the capacity to think about it.

No way. Being aware of our immortality motivates us to get shit done in the time we have. Besides, since we have to die...if we couldn't think about it how would our brain respond to the death of someone else that died? We couldn't just think it would never happen to us...but even if we did we already are at the point where we are thinking about it.

It's certainly possible that someday we'll be able to reverse the aging process. Doubtful that it'd happen in humans this century, but every generation has people trying to find the fountain of youth...might as well find it within our own

 

[Baron Aloha]

Reverse aging? No.

I think its more likely that the world's first brain transplant will happen in our lifetimes. Brain transplant + cloned body (or donor body) = reverse aging? Your brain would still age though. Who knows what sort of stuff they'll cook up 100 years from now.

 

[Femmeworth]

I think it will be possible eventually, but definitely not something feasible for quite some time if ever.

 

[crazy monkey]

lol I look forward to becoming old one day.

 

[Fio]

I vaguely remember reading some scientists talking about expanding our lifespan by 200 ~ 300 years, and that it could be achievable in the next 2 or 3 decades. I don't have any link here though.

 

[brianjones]

No way. Being aware of our immortality motivates us to get shit done in the time we have. Besides, since we have to die...if we couldn't think about it how would our brain respond to the death of someone else that died? We couldn't just think it would never happen to us...but even if we did we already are at the point where we are thinking about it.

i dont necessarily agree.. i doubt the the accomplishments of man were done at the motivation of "were gonna die someday".. they were done because they were capable of being down NAO

 

[Rentahamster]

Back up your brain

http://ieet.org/index.php/IEET/more/rothblatt20100613/

Also: http://us.cnn.com/video/?/video/international/2009/11/30/vs.clinic.immortality.cnn

 

[Gallbaro]

Hope not, we need finite lives.

Back up your brain

http://ieet.org/index.php/IEET/more/rothblatt20100613/

Also: http://us.cnn.com/video/?/video/international/2009/11/30/vs.clinic.immortality.cnn

Except your still dead, a digital copy is not you.

 

[Yoboman]

Yes, it should be possible, and yes, perhaps in "our" lifetimes. (Depends on how old you are!)

Our bodies are constantly repairing and replacing structures. Aging happens when the body is damaged at a rate faster than it is being repaired at. "Anti-aging" would happen if we could start repairing our bodies faster than damage is occurring. You can do this by improving the body's built-in repair systems, or you could just do it they way we restore classic cars: in the "shop".

I read an interesting book on the subject, recently. Most of the technologies seemed remarkably non-sci-fi-like. They all still need work and testing of course, but nothing seemed to be that pie-in-the-sky.

Here's the book. I think the dude did a TED talk as well. He has a crazy beard.

That's why I thought reverse aging should be possible. Simply getting our bodies working at the sort of rate it was as a child would improve skin, body functions, muscle growth etc. right?

 

[krypt0nian]

No you wouldn't. Memories aren't a magical energy you can put into another body, they are an arrangement of various brain bits. You can copy the layout of the bits if you like, and you'll be creating a copy of your consciousness, but the original will still exist/be killed.

There will be no transfer. You'll die, your copy will live on.

There would be no difference. By consciousness I assume all that entails. Including memories. Mute point as there is no tech to do this, and if we are visualizing tech, then why stop short of memories?

No loss in my case. Nothing to grieve.

 

[Zoramon089]

That's why I thought reverse aging should be possible. Simply getting our bodies working at the sort of rate it was as a child would improve skin, body functions, muscle growth etc. right?

Yea but I'm saying the brain doesn't work this way. Neurons don't repair themselves, they ONLY decay

 

[turnbuckle]

i dont necessarily agree.. i doubt the the accomplishments of man were done at the motivation of "were gonna die someday".. they were done because they were capable of being down NAO

But if we weren't capable of thinking about death, discovering medicine and new procedures to make people live longer and healthier lives would be nearly non-existent. We'd still build houses and develop technology that make live more pleasurable, but we'd all be dying off in our 40s or earlier. Why go on a diet outside of reasons of vanity? Why not put off today what I can do tomorrow if I feel I have all the time in the world?

 

[Replicant]

It's time to save up on cryogenics then sleep until such advancement in science is made.

 

[Rentahamster]

But if we weren't capable of thinking about death, discovering medicine and new procedures to make people live longer and healthier lives would be nearly non-existent. We'd still build houses and develop technology that make live more pleasurable, but we'd all be dying off

Reminds me of "Why should I live a "moral" life if there really is no God?"

You don't put off today what you can do tomorrow because it's the right thing to do as a responsible human.

Improving the human condition and saving lives is not a pathway to the elimination of human curiosity and exploration.

 

[Yoboman]

There would be no difference. By consciousness I assume all that entails. Including memories. Mute point as there is no tech to do this, and if we are visualizing tech, then why stop short of memories?

No loss in my case. Nothing to grieve.

Except it would just be a clone of you, just like if hypothetically you created a physical clone with all your memories, it still wouldn't be you, you wouldn't share it's new memories and experiences, you would coincide with the clone until you die.

 

[demon]

There would be no difference. By consciousness I assume all that entails. Including memories. Mute point as there is no tech to do this, and if we are visualizing tech, then why stop short of memories?

No loss in my case. Nothing to grieve.

Imagine that you stepped into a machine that creates an exact replica of yourself- body, mind, memories, consciousness and all. If you suddenly died, would you somehow "live on" through that copy? Would you suddenly share the consciousness of your copy? I assume you'd answer no, otherwise I have no idea where you're coming from. Now, how is teleportation such as in Star Trek any different?

 

[Agnostic]

Only for billionaires.

Cars used to be only for rich people, too.

Your kidding me! Get the fuck out of here! Are you telling me over time that science and technology become cheaper for everyone to use them? Mind blown!

 

[Sohter.Nura]

Dude, you can't fight gravity. That's what aging is :/ Your skins starts falling down not just because you're getting more birthdays, but because gravity has been acting on your body for over 60 years =P we'll all get old, no matter how much botox there is in this world.

 

[Rentahamster]

Your kidding me! Get the fuck out of here! Are you telling me over time that science and technology become cheaper for everyone to use them? Mind blown!

Yep.

 

[Freshmaker]

What would reverse aging entail...?

You'd turn into a fetus and die instead of the alternative?

 

[Escape Goat]

why would you want to? i find my mortality comforting, not a curse. Thats not to say I want to die now because theres quite a bit I want to do on this world before I move on to the next.

 

[Coop]

Karl Pilkington?