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[Marion Cobretti]

https://youtu.be/EjpJqcM3X94

Jon Oliver Montage of loonies prematurely declaring the end of Obamacare.

Honest question. How much longer do you think this brand of Republican can exist? More than 5 years? Surely it's 10 max.

Perhaps if and when Texas becomes a swing state, it'll all be over for them.

 

[JustenP88]

Politics is str8 embarrassing. I think they'll stop giving a shit about Obamacare when the next blue president helps to pass a big law. Then that will be the new sign of the end (like gays).

 

[Randolph Freelander]

Honest question. How much longer do you think this brand of Republican can exist? More than 5 years? Surely it's 10 max.

I don't know, but I just hope these nuts realize just how badly they are being manipulated by their media before they go and do something completely crazy.

 

[Shake Appeal]

I should just point out that I saw the full Dent interview that is the final snippet of this, and his longer answer, which they didn't show, is that Republicans should no longer seek to repeal Obamacare but to attack individual parts of it and make fixes.

He didn't specify any fixes, of course...

 

[Patryn]

Way longer than you think.

Remember that they have a majority in the Senate and the House, and the House majority doesn't look like it's going to end any time soon.

Keep in mind that as a nation we're further to the right than we've been in decades, to the point that the Republicans are frothing at the mouth about a health care plan that they championed not 20 years ago.

In other words, we're more likely to have Republicans in the future who are even more conservative than they are now.

 

[ZombiePlatypus]

There is still a repeal Obamacare sentiment some are clinging on? Jeez.

 

[Suikoguy]

I should just point out that I saw the full Dent interview that is the final snippet of this, and his longer answer, which they didn't show, is that Republicans should no longer seek to repeal Obamacare but to attack individual parts of it and make fixes.

He didn't specify any fixes, of course...

Did he specify which parts?
You can't get rid of the mandate without also getting rid of covering preexisting conditions.

 

[Shake Appeal]

Did he specify which parts?
You can't get rid of the mandate without also getting rid of covering preexisting conditions.

Yeah, that was the argument he proceeded to have with a guest on the panel.

 

[Fenderputty]

There is still a repeal Obamacare sentiment some are clinging on? Jeez.

They want to replace it with republican platitudes as well.

 

[Shake Appeal]

Keep in mind that as a nation we're further to the right than we've been in decades, to the point that the Republicans are frothing at the mouth about a health care plan that they championed not 20 years ago.

This isn't actually true when you poll most policy issues.

It's true of politicians and the news media, two things that are routinely failing to represent America and Americans.

 

[Shake Appeal]

Just to unpack that a little:

A majority of Americans want to spend money on infrastructure, develop alternative energy, decrease use of fracking, pass stricter regulations on emissions, deal with global warming, and do "whatever it takes" to protect the environment. Most think we should raise taxes on the rich and that the government should do "a lot/some" to reduce income inequality. Most want there to be stricter regulations on guns. Most support a path to legal status for undocumented immigrants. A majority of Americans think the following are morally acceptable: divorce, gay marriage, unmarried sex, having a child out of wedlock and assisted suicide. Support for the death penalty and harsh sentencing is declining; support for stem cell research, birth control and abortion rights are increasing.

You just wouldn't think it to look at our politics.

 

[Patryn]

This isn't actually true when you poll most policy issues.

It's true of politicians and the news media, two things that are routinely failing to represent America and Americans.

Just to unpack that a little:

A majority of Americans want to spend money on infrastructure, develop alternative energy, decrease use of fracking, pass stricter regulations on emissions, deal with global warming, and do "whatever it takes" to protect the environment. Most think we should raise taxes on the rich and that the government should do "a lot/some" to reduce income inequality. Most want there to be stricter regulations on guns. Most support a path to legal status for undocumented immigrants. A majority of Americans think the following are morally acceptable: divorce, gay marriage, unmarried sex, having a child out of wedlock and assisted suicide. Support for the death penalty and harsh sentencing is declining; support for stem cell research, birth control and abortion rights are increasing.

You just wouldn't think it to look at our politics.

Except the politicians are the ones making the current decisions, and the electorate, despite these positions is electing more Republicans, and generally more radical Republicans.

Most of this is due to gerrymandering, but I'm saying if you take the average Republican congressman now and the average Republican congressman from 20 years ago, odds are the Republican now is much more conservative.

 

[OctoMan]

https://youtu.be/EjpJqcM3X94

Jon Oliver Montage of loonies prematurely declaring the end of Obamacare.

Honest question. How much longer do you think this brand of Republican can exist? More than 5 years? Surely it's 10 max.

Perhaps if and when Texas becomes a swing state, it'll all be over for them.

You seriously need to get off neogaf if you think the republican party is in trouble like that.

 

[Guevara]

It's a new wedge issue, like abortion was before.

It will stick around as long as it is usefully, possibly decades.

 

[PhoenixDark]

It's a new wedge issue, like abortion was before.

It will stick around as long as it is usefully, possibly decades.

Nope. A better comparison would be Medicare, Social Security, etc. Projects that were accused of being socialism and fought against until they became ingrained into society. The far right will never like it. Everyone else will move on.

And as it's improved/expanded, conservatives will start supporting it. IE the "keep the government out of my Medicare" idiots lol.

 

[davepoobond]

if Clinton (or at least a democrat) gets elected, it'll go away.

sooooo... hope for that

 

[CyclopsRock]

Perhaps if and when Texas becomes a swing state, it'll all be over for them.

It'll never be over. You only have two parties, how can it be over?

The history of democracy is of a constantly moving middle ground. Hopefully something disastrous (Electorally) will happen to them and force them to change. And the "new", changed GOP won't be the same as it is now, in the same way it's not the same as it was 20 years ago or 40 years ago etc.

 

[OctoMan]

if Clinton (or at least a democrat) gets elected, it'll go away.

sooooo... hope for that

No chance. The most powerful political movements in 50 years came from the republican party losing elections. They have since responded and taken the house and senate with huge majorities. The republican party is not going away.

 

[Arkeband]

You seriously need to get off neogaf if you think the republican party is in trouble like that.

Yeah it isn't like they just lost the ability to gerrymander their favorite states or anything.

wait...

 

[DontBeThatGuy]

Taking the L, and moving on can be a difficult thing, especially when you're fucking crazy.

 

[PhoenixDark]

No chance. The most powerful political movements in 50 years came from the republican party losing elections. They have since responded and taken the house and senate with huge majorities. The republican party is not going away.

Yet they're going to lose the 2016 general election because their candidates have no nationwide viability.

 

[davepoobond]

No chance. The most powerful political movements in 50 years came from the republican party losing elections. They have since responded and taken the house and senate with huge majorities. The republican party is not going away.

thats a weird interpretation of what i said.

i meant that the "repeal obamacare" sentiment.

 

[robotzombie]

Politics is str8 embarrassing. I think they'll stop giving a shit about Obamacare when the next blue president helps to pass a big law. Then that will be the new sign of the end (like gays).

why did you finish spelling the word "straight" by using the number 8

 

[Henchmen21]

I don't know, but I just hope these nuts realize just how badly they are being manipulated by their media before they go and do something completely crazy.

I'm waiting for the day some backdoor convo between repub politicians and the heads of fox news is taped with them laughing at what gullible fools their base is released.

 

[Apt101]

https://youtu.be/EjpJqcM3X94

Jon Oliver Montage of loonies prematurely declaring the end of Obamacare.

Honest question. How much longer do you think this brand of Republican can exist? More than 5 years? Surely it's 10 max.

Perhaps if and when Texas becomes a swing state, it'll all be over for them.

Billionaires run a machine of propaganda to insure these kinds of Americans will keep getting churned out. And since it successful for the GOP, they'll keep taking the money and running with it.

But the optimist in me thinks it will recede a great deal when the Baby Boomers die off.

 

[Majine]

As a clueless foreigner, what is the argument against Obamacare? Fuck peoples health, I need my money?

 

[Ferrio]

As a clueless foreigner, what is the argument against Obamacare? Fuck peoples health, I need my money?

Honestly, they don't want a democratic going down in the history books for it, especially a black man. Ironically them giving it the name "Obamacare" just further cements it as his legacy.

 

[Platy]

I can understand why corporations would be against it ... but why PEOPLE would be against it and clap with the closing end ?

 

[Lathentar]

The likely scenario is Republicans will switch their strategy away from social issues and attempt to take more of the middle. Everyone will just end up moving a bit to the left.

 

[HighResTomato]

The fact that people and the media in the US actually call this "Obama care" with a straight face amazes me.

 

[epmode]

Ironically them giving it the name "Obamacare" just further cements it as his legacy.

This is the best part. Right here.

 

[Damaniel]

Honestly, they don't want a democratic going down in the history books for it, especially a black man. Ironically them giving it the name "Obamacare" just further cements it as his legacy.

Indeed. I stopped calling it the ACA and started calling it Obamacare a long time ago. The right might be trying to tarnish the President by calling it that, but history will look back on our first steps toward universal health coverage and know *exactly* who to thank.