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[diffusionx]

It can't be. The very only thing they do a much better job at is the level design. Everything else without exceptions is worse, or far worse than Bioshock.

Not really.

For one thing, Prey is a proper immersive sim while Bioshock is a FPS with some mild RPG elements.

Bioshock has a great setting and universe but Prey beats it on everything else.

 

[kevboard]

It can't be. The very only thing they do a much better job at is the level design. Everything else without exceptions is worse, or far worse than Bioshock.

naming Bioshock in the dame sentence as Prey is almost sacrilegious in itself.

Bioshock = dumbed down streamlined shooter that masquerades as an immersive sim

Prey = actual immersive sim, not dumbed down, actual player expression

Prey is what Bioshock should have been

 

[pnutboy]

All the rumors about an underground Antarctic city for Cloud Chamber's game sound sick. We've been hearing it's "close" to announcement for like 4 years though, if there's any game I'm praying escapes development hell and cancellation it's that one.

 

[Camreezie]

Stuck in the past, begging for a sequel no matter who makes it.

This is why we have:

A man plays something new, a slave begs for membaberry sequels.

Explain the endless pile of Souls shit

 

[Danjin44]

Bioshock one of very few FPS I enjoyed but with that being said the story is done, there is not much to tell without trying rehash same story telling "there is always tower and a man".

 

[Azure Crystal Gaming]

 

[Beechos]

They dont even need a sequel just give it the dead space remake treatment.

 

[UltimaKilo]

They dont even need a sequel just give it the dead space remake treatment.

Bioshock VR would be huge.

 

[SILKYSMOOTH30FPS]

Not really.

For one thing, Prey is a proper immersive sim while Bioshock is a FPS with some mild RPG elements.

Bioshock has a great setting and universe but Prey beats it on everything else.

Sure, immersive sim is a superior genre to an fps with some immersive sim elements, but what in Prey is better? Atmosphere is far better in bioshock, aesthetic is generations ahead in bioshock, enemies design is incomparable, story is way better in bio, gunplay+plasmids is way better. As i said, Prey cannot compete, and it doesn't matter if its genre is superior to what's in Bioshock.

 

[SILKYSMOOTH30FPS]

Bioshock one of very few FPS I enjoyed but with that being said the story is done, there is not much to tell without trying rehash same story telling "there is always tower and a man".

Well that's not true at all. The story is done in Dark Souls, and then we happen to get an even better one in Elden Ring. It all depends on the talent of the team, and if they know wtf they're doing.

 

[SILKYSMOOTH30FPS]

naming Bioshock in the dame sentence as Prey is almost sacrilegious in itself.

Bioshock = dumbed down streamlined shooter that masquerades as an immersive sim

Prey = actual immersive sim, not dumbed down, actual player expression

Prey is what Bioshock should have been

And i don't disagree whatsoever. But that dumbed down fps is a superior video game than Prey, the proper immersive sim. Of course if Bioshock was built like Prey, but in the Bioshock universe, the game would have been ten times better, but that's not what we got.

 

[The Cockatrice]

A bioshock game similar to the first in level/gameplay design or even better similar to SS and with the story of infinite would be insane tho sadly I doubt it would be popular these days.

 

[Danjin44]

Well that's not true at all. The story is done in Dark Souls, and then we happen to get an even better one in Elden Ring. It all depends on the talent of the team, and if they know wtf they're doing.

???? Elden Ring's story has no connection to Dark Souls story.

Bioshock 1, 2 and Infinite are connected.

I think what you are asking is spiritual successor to Bioshock instead of actual sequel.

 

[R6Rider]

People didn't buy Prey and it was better than Bioshock ever was.

 

[SILKYSMOOTH30FPS]

???? Elden Ring's story has no connection to Dark Souls story.

Bioshock 1, 2 and Infinite are connected.

I think what you are asking is spiritual successor to Bioshock instead of actual sequel.

No, what i am saying is that if the game is, say, on moon, why would you follow Bioshock 1 story? There's no need of this. Create a new original story, and here we go, not being anchored by old games released almost 20 years ago. Remember, it's just a video game, the dev can do whatever they want, there's nothing that they must follow at all costs.

 

[Danjin44]

No, what i am saying is that if the game is, say, on moon, why would you follow Bioshock 1 story? There's no need of this. Create a new original story, and here we go, not being anchored by old games released almost 20 years ago. Remember, it's just a video game, the dev can do whatever they want, there's nothing that they must follow at all costs.

They are literally doing that with Judas.

 

[SILKYSMOOTH30FPS]

They are literally doing that with Judas.

And i will be playing it day one. But as i said above, Judas is missing the Bioshock vibe. Instead, they have this messy zoomer vibe going for them that i am not a fan off of.

 

[phant0m]

Sadly Immersive Sims don't sell for shit.

Thus no BioShock, Dishonored or Deus Ex anymore. The last great one was Prey (2017) which I highly highly recommend if you have that itch and haven't played it.

 

[Danjin44]

And i will be playing it day one. But as i said above, Judas is missing the Bioshock vibe. Instead, they have this messy zoomer vibe going for them that i am not a fan off of.

Then suggest you to replay original Bioshock.

 

[SILKYSMOOTH30FPS]

Then suggest you to replay original Bioshock.

For what reason? I am not gonna all of a sudden not like it's aeasthetic or anything.

 

[Danjin44]

For what reason? I am not gonna all of a sudden not like it's aeasthetic or anything.

Because it seems you want to play Bioshock, then thats your only choice.

 

[SILKYSMOOTH30FPS]

Because it seems you want to play Bioshock, then thats your only choice.

I want to play Bioshock, but that doesn't mean that i want to replay what i've already beaten.

 

[Danjin44]

I want to play Bioshock, but that doesn't mean that i want to replay what i've already beaten.

Ken Levine is long moved on from Bioshock IP and if you want other devs making it then it wouldn't be really actual Bioshock other than name.....is that what you want?

 

[GudOlRub]

We were supposed to be getting a spiritual successor with Judas...
But I don't even believe we'll get Judas anymore. I'll only believe it when I'm actually able to play it.
Ken Levine must have some kind of dirt on Zelnick for sure or else I don't understand how he has managed to survive within the T2 umbrella for so long, both Infinite and now this seem to have been absolute shitshows to develop.

 

[chromhound]

I thought there was a new one in development?

 

[SILKYSMOOTH30FPS]

Ken Levine is long moved on from Bioshock IP and if you want other devs making it then it wouldn't be really actual Bioshock other than name.....is that what you want?

If you hire someone in charge that understands what Bioshock is supposed to be, not only is there a chance of it being as good, but it could be even better. I'd take that chance instead of shelving this IP, and forget it exists, yes.

 

[EverydayBeast]

Bioshock 3 day 1 game pass