It has begun: Ipod vs PSP (Cnet). With a tiny dig at the DS
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SteveMeister
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Unison said:
...and that the iPod is going to stand still during that time? And that Sony will be able to actually sell PSP's to non-gamers (something I seriously doubt they'll be able to do)?
Its not going to be a pretty xmas for those who work in retail (me) :/ PSP is going to mop the floor with current competition
Anyway, nice to see mainstream press pushing the PSP. Wont be long until it becomes THE handheld to own. The design itself sells the hardware. I can imagine the impact its going to cause when people see it in person.
Anyway, nice to see mainstream press pushing the PSP. Wont be long until it becomes THE handheld to own. The design itself sells the hardware. I can imagine the impact its going to cause when people see it in person.
Mrbob said:
That's assuming that the iPod will just sit there an stay the same. It's not that old a product and already it's expanded dramatically and successfully into a whole range of players. I'm pretty sure Apple knows that there are possibilities outside music, they keep playing down video, but I'm sure they're just waiting for the right moment to strike. Music is the most important aspect of portable entertainment though, you just can't play games and watch video anywhere like you can with music. I think Sony is betting too much on convergence with the PSP, it'll sell for as a games console, but I don't what Sony wants with the other functions. The difference is that Apple makes money selling the iPod, Sony loses money with the PSP and has to sell software to recoup. So why the music and video functions?
I think iTunes has big role in making the iPod into the cultural phenomenon it is now. It is the music store and the player together that makes it work. Sony does not have Apple's software strength to make PSP work for the masses.
Not for music though. Just games/video really, which are areas ipod doesn't really factor.Mrbob said:PSP still has some major advantages over Ipod so it evens out!
Nope, I waiting until it's $199. I'm waiting on DS for a price drop too, there's plenty of GBA software to keep me busy for awhile. I've been getting that console itch lately though.. I might pick up an Xbox if it hits $99 this year, or maybe a Xenon at launch if it's backwards compatible.Mrbob said:
I'm suprised that there are so many Ipod lovers (or maybe they are just PSP haters) on GAF. If I can fit 100 songs on my PSP, that's more variety than I'll ever need and will certainly more than enough hours. I remember a day when we had about 12 songs on a cassette and had to switch sides... and we were happy to do so.
Why anyone needs 20GB or more worth of music on a portable device is beyond me.
Why anyone needs 20GB or more worth of music on a portable device is beyond me.
Lord Error
Insane For Sony
HDD based music players are really nice, but I still prefer PSP's multifunctionality - and it's a competitive music player too - really high quality audio, and if you don't demand your whole music library with you at all times, but listen mostly to the latest music you've obtained, 1GB is pretty nice amount of storage.
It's comes down to that I'd rather carry just PSP with me, with less music, than two or more devices, so that I can listen to more music.
It's comes down to that I'd rather carry just PSP with me, with less music, than two or more devices, so that I can listen to more music.
Lord Error
Insane For Sony
Who cares. To me, it's still damn cheap even with 1GB stick. People with enough money to buy stuff like PSPs and iPods are not exactly begging for money on the streets.
Cellphones have long ways to go to have anything really comparable in terms of games and video playback to PSP. Not just in tech, but the development effort too. Not to mention that noone would like a cellphone with a screen of that size anyways, as it would be too big. In any case, what's gong to win in five or ten years is not of my concern now.
Guy LeDouche
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Damn, that is so sad. Nintendo needs to get a Queer Eye for some style or something.FnordChan said:I know I do:
jedimike said:
Not just on GAF, but the world in general. The iPod consistently outsells the competition; in terms of marketshare, it has the biggest piece of the portable digital audio player pie.
You're obviously not going to listen to it all at once, it's a matter of convenience. There's something "liberating" about having every CD you own stuffed into a little device roughly the size of a deck of cards, and have room for even more. There are no CDs or minidiscs to swap, I never have to plug it into my computer unless I want to add even more music, and it doubles as a giant USB hard drive so I can take data between work and home.
It's about being able to cram those racks and racks of CDs into your pocket, and listen to whatever you want, whenever you want, and have it available with about two button pushes and a quick scroll. This psychology applies to any HDD-based audio player, not just iPods.
Kung Fu Jedi
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jedimike said:
I can only speak for myself, but when I was using a flash based player, I did actually get bored with what was on there rather quickly. It was only 128MB's but it sure didn't take long, and it also became tedious to switch out music all the time. I work out a lot, go for 5+ mile trail runs, and I'm never sure what exactly I want to listen to on any given day. I love having my entire collection with me so I can listen to what ever I want at the moment. I also have lots of custom playlists, which change things up even more, I probably don't need a 40GB drive, but a 20GB one suits me just fine.
Gaia Theory said:
Bullshit. Or else we'd still be playing Pac-Man. We've never had a handheld this advanced before because after Sega bowed out Nintendo wasn't forced to upgrade. Look at the gap between Game Boy and Game Boy Color--Nintendo was perfectly content at letting GBA/SP slide for another few years until Sony shocked the system.
Lord Error
Insane For Sony
How is that of any relevance to anything I said? I think I made my disclaimers nicely and clearly of what PSP can and cannot do as far as music playback, and what is my opinion on the price for the hardware you're getting.
jedimike said:
Have you tried it? I have a 20GB iPod and I'm thinking I should've gotten a 40GB model. It's all about variety on demand. Some days I feel like driving to thumping electronica, other times I feel like riding the Metro to some punk rock, still other times I feel like relaxing with light pop. It's the convenience factor that makes large-capacity MP3 players so attractive--carrying around stacks of media to play went out of style in the 90s.
Lord Error
Insane For Sony
Speevy, I'm sure the reason for that is that GBA is just not seen in the same light as devices like PSP or Ipod. For the same reason, the types of cheap cellphones that you get for free with the plan - are never mentioned.
Please point out where I said anything like that. Or is entering this thread alone sign of poster's idiocy to you? What are you doing here then?
Forsete said:So it turns out I made the right choice when I said I'll wait for the PSP instead of getting an iPod.. and I really need a MP3 player right now.
Just a few more weeks.
If you just want a mp3 player PSP will do, its fine in that apsect. Its certainly isnt a Ipod and there is nothing there that will take away from the Ipod market.
Marconelly said:
Well done. :lol
xsarien said:
Fair enough... I never really had a need for a portable MP3 player, but I can understand where a certain percentage of people would want that. I also understand that there is a percentage who would sacrifice some storage for the ability to play games. I don't think Ipod and PSP are competing for the exact same market, but I definitely believe PSP will cut into Ipod sales.
Seriously:
PSP+1 gig of memory>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Ipod.
When Ipod allows me to play games, watch video, stock photos and store mp3s, with its built in 40gig hdd then it'll have an edge over psp.
As of now, there is absolutely no reason for me to choose an ipod over psp.
PSP+1 gig of memory>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Ipod.
When Ipod allows me to play games, watch video, stock photos and store mp3s, with its built in 40gig hdd then it'll have an edge over psp.
As of now, there is absolutely no reason for me to choose an ipod over psp.
Lord Error
Insane For Sony
Ipod photo is good for storing photos but for viewing them?? Seriously now.
Insertia said:How did I figure a couple of idiots would mention Ipod Photo as if I were oblivious to that $500 piece of crap.
I don't know, but telling me that a PSP with a whole 1 gigabyte of memory is adequate for any kind of meaningful music library is stretching it a bit as well.
Marconelly said:
The iPod photo can output to a TV, just like the PS--oh, wait.
Such a liar and a troll.Insertia said:How did I figure a couple of idiots would mention Ipod Photo as if I were oblivious to that $500 piece of crap.
"When Ipod allows me to play games, watch video, stock photos and store mp3s, with its built in 40gig hdd then it'll have an edge over psp"
"play games," - Check! (Rudimentary, but Solitare, Brick, Parachute and Music quiz ARE games. You could even put Tetris on there.)
"watch video, " - In a cheap form, sort of, it's coming.
"stock photos" - Keyword here is STOCK as in HOLD them.
"store mp3s, " - You're joking, right?
You just want to complain and can't get past how you are an uneducated Sony whore. At least get a basic understanding of the competition before drawing the line.
Oh:
1GB iPod player for $150. SP for $80. Still less than a PSP.
SteveMeister
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Currently, 1GB Memory Stick Duos sell for an average of $30 MORE than a 1GB iPod Shuffle, which you have to admit has significantly more functionality than a Memory Stick by itself.
So are you saying that the price of memory sticks is going to go down, but the iPod prices are going to stay still?
So are you saying that the price of memory sticks is going to go down, but the iPod prices are going to stay still?
I have nearly 100gb of MP3s on my PC, and honestly, 1gb would be just fine. I have a 30gb HDD based player already, and while I store plenty of music on there, I don't often use all that much of it at one time (the only nice thing is listening to ALL of the music on shuffle). With 1gb, I'd just throw what I want onto the stick and be done with it. When I'm ready for different music, I'll put that on the stick next. You can carry around plenty of music with 1gb of space.
I guess it depends on your habits, though. I'm at my PC a whole lot, so it's not a problem to throw music onto a stick as I need it.
Oh come on, that doesn't even deserve the iPod name.
You couldn't possibly convince my that the Shuffle is a better deal than a PSP. Regular iPods rock, but the Shuffle? It's almost as if Apple is making fun of its fans...Ian: My wee-wee is bigger and better than yours!!!
Doug: Well, my wee-wee is wider and more fun than yours!!!
Steve: Oh yea? Well my wee-wee can be used for more things than yours!!!
**everybody gets mad and beats each other up til mommy comes in and breaks it up**
Mommy: All your wee-wees are wonderful in their own special ways! Now be quiet, mommy's watching Oprah!
Doug: Well, my wee-wee is wider and more fun than yours!!!
Steve: Oh yea? Well my wee-wee can be used for more things than yours!!!
**everybody gets mad and beats each other up til mommy comes in and breaks it up**
Mommy: All your wee-wees are wonderful in their own special ways! Now be quiet, mommy's watching Oprah!
xsarien said:
You Ipod drones have a difficult time grasping something; most consumers don't need or care for 20/40 gigabytes of memory. Just being able to store an entire cd worth of music on something the size of a stick of gum is enough for most. I've been using a 128mb mp3 flash based player for two years and its been more then sufficient.
Going up to an entire gigabyte of memory with PSP will be more then enough for me. Considering PSPs other features Ill gladly take it over an Ipod any day.
